• ITA Tae Kwon Do
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I don't take Tae Kwon Do, but I do take a karate style called Uechi-Ryu it's pretty cool, I'm a brown belt with 1 black stripe, and now I have rock hard abs.
[QUOTE=Shadowspike;20279340]Does this stuff help if you ever got into a street fight? What do you learn regarding self defense techniques?[/QUOTE] Assuming you're good at it, you can drop an opponent in a single kick. All you need is enough room, and if you don't you should be able to make that room. Most aggressors will run at you, and this is where a good kick is going to drop them easily. [QUOTE=teeheeV2;20283942]I do ju Jitsu, and it was funny at the competition one of our black belt dudes was informed that he was "Gunna have yo ass kicked" by a TKD Black belt. The TKD guy proceeded to open with a flying kick and ended up flat on his ass in a submission.[/QUOTE] 1. That guy sucks at TKD 2. Tae Kwon Do doesn't proclaim itself to be better than any martial art, and obviously if an instructor was retarded enough to take his students to a Ju Jitsu competition then that is his own fault. In TKD we never do grabbing or throwing training or anything of that sort so it's no wonder this moron got his ass handed to him. On the other hand, a bunch of us went down to a karate tournament and beat the shit out of them all because they're crap with their legs and don't know what to do when they can't get close with their hands.
I got some rubber-bands in my mouth for braces, if I get kicked in the face tonight someone is going to the hospital and it won't be me.
I just got back from Kuk Sool Won and tonight we were practising our jool-bong (nun-chucks) forms when the woman next to me let go of hers and they flew and hit me in the face. :saddowns:
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;20274018]I was a week away from becoming a brown belt when I was 8, but then we had to move so I couldn't do the final test. :saddowns:[/QUOTE] this except my instructor used a literal half red half black belt instead of brown. had to quit because i had to move to england and i cant find anything in the Norfolk/Suffolk area to teach me.... im going to join up again after 3 years out of practice and hopefully get my real black belt. hope i dont have to go back to the beginning [editline]08:43PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ryzo;20274819]I train in Kuk Sool Won, another Korean martial art. 3 weeks and then I have my next testing. :dance:[/QUOTE] wow my TaeKwonDo instructer made it take 6th months to test
[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;20290763]this except my instructor used a literal half red half black belt instead of brown. had to quit because i had to move to england and i cant find anything in the Norfolk/Suffolk area to teach me.... im going to join up again after 3 years out of practice and hopefully get my real black belt. hope i dont have to go back to the beginning [editline]08:43PM[/editline] wow my TaeKwonDo instructer made it take 6th months to test[/QUOTE] No our testings are 3 months apart. I just have 3 weeks until mine.
WTF is the best Taekwondo for sparring, ITF has the best forms. Never heard of ITA, and ATA is complete shit. I got my black belt in WTF, went to four AAU Nationals as kid/teen (won a silver and two bronzes in sparring), and a fuckload of regional tournaments. Was a lot of fun. [editline]01:00PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;20284042]Useful. Until someone takes you down to the ground. Then, you're fucked.[/QUOTE] You learn plenty of ground techniques in TKD (if your instructor knows what he is doing).
I'm going to hold my tongue about my thoughts on taekwondo this time around... Let's just say I don't have much respect for non-pragmatic martial arts/combat sports.
[QUOTE=KingQ8;20286484]Boxing / Kickboxing is where it's at. It's pure "Kick their fucking ass till they can't get back up". Whereas, with martial arts, it's always a deeper fucking meaning. "Visualise the balls in your palms. Imagine you are a tree, rooted to the earth." No thanks. I'd rather just go out there and kick ass with my fists and legs. None of this deep, meaningful bullshit that is most martial arts.[/QUOTE] Ju Jitsu doesnt have that spiritual crap, atleast mine doesn't. Ju Jitsu teaches you to handle any opponent at any skill level from any sort of fighting, ground, clinches, punching and kicking included. [editline]07:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20288057]Assuming you're good at it, you can drop an opponent in a single kick. All you need is enough room, and if you don't you should be able to make that room. Most aggressors will run at you, and this is where a good kick is going to drop them easily. 1. That guy sucks at TKD 2. Tae Kwon Do doesn't proclaim itself to be better than any martial art, and obviously if an instructor was retarded enough to take his students to a Ju Jitsu competition then that is his own fault. In TKD we never do grabbing or throwing training or anything of that sort so it's no wonder this moron got his ass handed to him. On the other hand, a bunch of us went down to a karate tournament and beat the shit out of them all because they're crap with their legs and don't know what to do when they can't get close with their hands.[/QUOTE] It was MMA, and the grand final, and he was pretty good at it, just a cocky bastard.
When I was little I kicked a kid in the face so hard he cried and I was disqualified from a tournament, so I quit. But I already had 3 trophies from other tournaments.
I was brown-belt but it was too far away and I couldn't afford to keep going :(
[QUOTE=Jallen;20274064]I always thought it was too much kicking. A kick above the waist is pretty much useless practically. It looks cool though I guess.[/QUOTE] Yeah leg based combat arts are ineffective and unnecessarily flashy. I was a red 2 in Tae Kwon Do as a child. Even while sparring the major weaknesses of the fighting style were readily apparent. Actual effective hand to hand is much more likely to involve grappling as a serious focus. The necessary space and distance for effective leg based combat is larger than the average fight is going to occur in. Unless you are a master, you are likely going to have a massive amount of difficulty kicking the guy when he gets in point blank to punch you. Whereas grappling is not only going to let you fight in those extreme close quarters , but reverse their attacks and make them work in your favor. Systema is probably one of the most interesting and capable legitimate self defense arts. It has a strong focus on understanding the weak points of the human body and exploiting them for maximum effectiveness. As such it involves many reversals which will break limbs or exploit major pressure points. Unlike the flashier arts you watch on TV, this is not something you could effectively compete in. The fights would be brief and someone would walk away with a major injury. Sambo is another martial art with a strong focus on grappling. As is MCMAP and the vast majority of other martial arts taught to major militaries.
I don't like being kicked.
[QUOTE=GunFox;20291787] [b]Systema is probably one of the most interesting and capable legitimate self defense arts.[/b] It has a strong focus on understanding the weak points of the human body and exploiting them for maximum effectiveness. As such it involves many reversals which will break limbs or exploit major pressure points. Unlike the flashier arts you watch on TV, this is not something you could effectively compete in. The fights would be brief and someone would walk away with a major injury. [/QUOTE] Systema is a bullshido. Do I really have to make a thread on this, detailing the many whys and hows?
[QUOTE=professional;20291854]Systema is a bullshido. Do I really have to make a thread on this, detailing the many whys and hows?[/QUOTE] Oh there is a bunch of bullshit versions of it out there. The lack of history allows any idiot to add shit to it that makes no sense. Even the name isn't even official. The basic stuff is all that matters in it. Exploit an attack and break something in your opponent. Whether it is a simple strike to the kidneys or a broken elbow. Anything above and beyond that is just pointless bullshit some clown has added. People hear the Spetznatz train in it and then they use that to exploit it by teaching something that is utterly and completely worthless and calling it Systema in the process.
Not to sound like an ass but the thing with tae kwon do is that if you fought against a boxer you'd go on the ground in a few minutes. None of this kicking is gonna help you.
[QUOTE=gfbbgfvfr;20292037]Not to sound like an ass but the thing with tae kwon do is that if you fought against a boxer you'd go on the ground in a few minutes. None of this kicking is gonna help you.[/QUOTE] I disagree, well not sure about Tae Kwon Do. But someone who trains in Kuk Sool Won could [b]easily[/b] take a boxer out. IMO.
[QUOTE=Maxx;20286235]Taco Won Do[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ I laughed so hard.
[QUOTE=Ryzo;20292163]I disagree, well not sure about Tae Kwon Do. But someone who trains in Kuk Sool Won could [b]easily[/b] take a boxer out. IMO.[/QUOTE] Never heard of it, but it takes a hell of alot to take out a good boxer.
I had burgundy belt, took me 5 years (1 belt each year), won 3rd place in my state tournament. Then moved to America and got fat and lazy.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;20291040]ITF has the best forms.[/QUOTE] Wooo a compliment! Wait... what do you mean by "forms"?
I used to be pretty good at TKD, but really I just couldn't keep up with the training. It was limiting my social life. [editline]10:16PM[/editline] [QUOTE=gfbbgfvfr;20292037]Not to sound like an ass but the thing with tae kwon do is that if you fought against a boxer you'd go on the ground in a few minutes. None of this kicking is gonna help you.[/QUOTE] You're dumb. You can't strike NEARLY as far with fists as feet.
[QUOTE=Equidistratic;20292454]I used to be pretty good at TKD, but really I just couldn't keep up with the training. It was limiting my social life. [editline]10:16PM[/editline] You're dumb. You can't strike NEARLY as far with fists as feet.[/QUOTE] What? Apart from the fact that kicks are slower than punches and boxers can dodge punches what makes you think that the moment you go for you go for a kick a boxer won't see it coming. When he gets too close you're fucked basically.
considering, when measured, certain people can kick with the force of a car crash [url]http://jockpost.com/22-mph-kick-balls-sets-world-record/[/url]
[QUOTE=Equidistratic;20292454] You're dumb. You can't strike NEARLY as far with fists as feet.[/QUOTE] And you're an idiot who has no fighting experience. Boxing is a pragmatic martial art. I.E It finds what works through actual application in a live dynamic environment (i.e a fight, not point sparring or standing infront of eachother blocking choreographed moves so you feel cool) and gets rid of what doesn't work. Taekwondo is, like alot of traditional eastern martial arts, largely theoretical and it's very rare to find a TKD school that encourages live, full contact sparring. Hell, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. 95% of traditional martial art schools, are a circle jerk fest for people to make themselves feel like badasses while learning to block and strike choreographed moves in a safe, docile environment.
I'm pretty sure a kick to the balls from a little girl will wind a boxer, unless you're telling me you go around doing this yourself, then that's just cheap. [editline]11:02PM[/editline] Look what I just found [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxaNAm_fWQ[/media] Yeah kicking is not gonna work
Was gonna post that video and those boxers there aren't even that good.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Y2kvoexLw[/media] Posting this for you guys to see my martial art. :smile: [editline]11:20PM[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezAxH43tz-w[/media] You have may of seen this video before, the news reporter says he's a "karate expert" when he is in fact a Kuk Sool Won instructor.
[IMG]http://www.lifeintheoffice.com/wp-content/images/characters/Dwight.png[/IMG] I am actually a Purple Belt in Tae Kwon Do. I am assistant regional sensei.
[QUOTE=GunFox;20291787]Yeah leg based combat arts are ineffective and unnecessarily flashy.[/QUOTE] It's being taught wrong then. There's nothing flashy about a single side-kick to the ribs. [QUOTE=GunFox;20291787]Actual effective hand to hand is much more likely to involve grappling as a serious focus. The necessary space and distance for effective leg based combat is larger than the average fight is going to occur in.[/QUOTE] Tae Kwon Do isn't taught as a martial art to win all fights in all situations. Why do people constantly compare martial arts like they're all in some competition to beat each other? Good instructors should teach proper self-defence on top of standard TKD training if they expect any of their students to survive an attack in the streets. [QUOTE=GunFox;20291787]Unless you are a master, you are likely going to have a massive amount of difficulty kicking the guy when he gets in point blank to punch you.[/QUOTE] The point is, you shouldn't be letting a guy get that close to you. If you do then you're doing something wrong as a TKD student. Sure, when people want to start fights with you they're going to be up in your face, being arrogant and rude - in this situation, don't use TKD. It's as simple as that. Knee that fucker in his balls or nut him right in the bridge of the nose. Fuck rules, this is the street not the classroom. But when some muppet runs at you, trying to use all his body weight to smash a punch into you, this is when a well-timed kick is going to drop the fool in one, easily. You don't have to be a master to break all this guy's ribs. [QUOTE=professional;20293179]Hell, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. 95% of traditional martial art schools, are a circle jerk fest for people to make themselves feel like badasses while learning to block and strike choreographed moves in a safe, docile environment.[/QUOTE] It's nice to be in that 5%, but I guess I'm lucky because the former head coach of the British team and the best instructor in the country is my instructor twice a week. I'd hate to think what it'd be like to train under some 2nd degree dunce.
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