• Things to ponder
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[QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]When you die, assuming you don't believe in either heaven or hell (I swear to god if you use this as an entrance to a religious argument I will kill you) can you imagine what nothing is like?[/QUOTE] Swearing to god isn't going to do much good if you're atheist
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;20781660]What's up with the mental and psychological threads nowadays?[/QUOTE] It's the middle of the school year and FPers are bored in their classes since they have no one to talk to and end up going through psychological puberty.
This thread reminds me of that scene in animal house where they smoked so much dope, they were discussing the notion that other stellar bodies exist within each indiviual atom. Pretty cool.
Stop reading so much science fiction and get into sports.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]Have you grasped the concept that one day in the looming future, everyone you know, everyone I know, everyone anyone has ever known will be dead? Then one day the sun will burn out (don't worry, not for roughly 300 billion years) and all life on earth will cease to exist. There may be life in other galaxies, but no longer in the Milky Way. What is beyond our galaxy? What is beyond that? Is space endless or does it have a limit? Is it physically possible for it to go on forever? Will we ever know what's behind there? Can your brain comprehend nothing? When you die, assuming you don't believe in either heaven or hell (I swear to god if you use this as an entrance to a religious argument I will kill you) can you imagine what nothing is like? You can't imagine nothing because you were born with something, instincts, breathing, essentially all keys to life you were born with. For some reason I've been thinking about things like this a lot recently.[/QUOTE] Heh... people rate you dumb for raising serious philosophical questions. Facepunch, you'll understand when you're not 12.
Try and grasp the idea of nothing. If you imagine pitch black then you see exatly that... blackness. That blows stoners minds.
Here: The universe is billions of years old An estimate is that for ever grain of sand on the beaches of Earth, there is 100 STARS in the Universe For every Star there is 0-100+ orbiting planets The number of possible alien species is beyond mindblowing. Think, in the past billion years there quite possibly (and probably) have been galactic wars fought, things we see only in SciFi probably have occurred. The Universe is fascinating. It almost literally has countless possibilities.
[QUOTE=Lance99;20781502]This,instead of pondering you could make some volunteer job. Also,I doubt if in this time there won't be other apocalypse(nukes) or humanity won't develop a way of travelling to remote planets.[/QUOTE] Commas have spaces after them you know.
Look up Terence Mckenna on Youtube. He is a genius. And the people who rate dumb on philosophical questions are superficial. [QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]Can your brain comprehend nothing? When you die, assuming you don't believe in either heaven or hell (I swear to god if you use this as an entrance to a religious argument I will kill you) can you imagine what nothing is like? You can't imagine nothing because you were born with something, instincts, breathing, essentially all keys to life you were born with. [/QUOTE] The concept of nothing is interesting. The same way you can't see an object without the background behind it, you can't have something without nothing.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]Can your brain comprehend nothing? When you die, assuming you don't believe in either heaven or hell (I swear to god if you use this as an entrance to a religious argument I will kill you) can you imagine what nothing is like? You can't imagine nothing because you were born with something, instincts, breathing, essentially all keys to life you were born with.[/QUOTE] Explaining nothing is rather simple, actually. Think of sleeping, the brain goes into cool mode and turns off some compoments of the brain - including the part that is you, what you remember during going to sleep, and waking up is nothing. I think of dying as sleeping forever.
I can imagine nothing just fine. Remember how it was before you were born? No? Well it's like that.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;20782332]I can imagine nothing just fine. Remember how it was before you were born? No? Well it's like that.[/QUOTE] Not entirely, since you had no memories or consciousness prior to birth, so to take it away is different. [editline]02:53PM[/editline] We probably live forever anyways. If our consciousness is energy, chances are that in the infinite period of time that is the universe, some alien species somewhere at sometime will figure out a way to return all energy into a consciousness.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;20781058]It makes the thread a lot more interesting if you put some potential answers in the OP instead of just saying "these questions are deep man, you answer them and shit"[/QUOTE] Hurr de durr, either way I'd get boxes because none of you would even somewhat accept the answers to a nearly un-answerable question.
I hate thinking about stuff like this, it makes me feel so small.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;20782380]Not entirely, since you had no memories or consciousness prior to birth, so to take it away is different.[/QUOTE] No it's not. [editline]09:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=FFStudios;20782443]Hurr de durr, either way I'd get boxes because none of you would even somewhat accept the answers to a nearly un-answerable question.[/QUOTE] No you get boxes because you seem to think that you're somehow the only person on FP to think these thoughts. It's called being curious. Also, because there's no logic behind some of them.
Ponder what is beyond the galaxy? No my dear boy, instead we develop ways of getting there.
[QUOTE=Zee!;20783142]No it's not. [/QUOTE] Yes it is. See what I did there, I'm using your logic. [editline]04:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=angrykid8;20782716]I hate thinking about stuff like this, it makes me feel so small.[/QUOTE] Accept the fact that as a species we are small. Think that the only thing that would make us big and important is if we were Gods and existed eternally. No matter how much you do, we are a speck in the pool of eternity. However, there is a positive. Your life is important, and your consciousness is everything to you. Use it to better human kind, and just enjoy the trip that is life.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]Have you grasped the concept that one day in the looming future, everyone you know, everyone I know, everyone anyone has ever known will be dead? [b]Then one day the sun will burn out (don't worry, not for roughly 300 billion years) and all life on earth will cease to exist. There may be life in other galaxies, but no longer in the Milky Way.[/b] [/QUOTE] You understand that our solar system isn't called the milky way right? And that even when our sun dies, there could potentially be other stars in the milky way hosting life.
I stopped thinking about this kind of superficial crap when I was 12. I've moved on to much deeper stuff since then.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;20781096]It depends on how you define "endless". The Earth's surface is endless but still finite. [editline]06:52PM[/editline] Actually there is a limit on what we can observe. There will always be some areas of the Universe that we cannot observe because the light from there hasn't reached us yet.[/QUOTE] Actually, you bring up a very good point. In two dimensions (Earth has a flat surface) The earth seems infinitely long, but in 3 dimensions it has a finite size. So perhaps in our 3-dimensional reality, the universe seems to be infinite, when from a 4 dimensional point of view, it is really very small.
[QUOTE=Bubbaluke;20788188]Actually, you bring up a very good point. In two dimensions (Earth has a flat surface) The earth seems infinitely long, but in 3 dimensions it has a finite size. So perhaps in our 3-dimensional reality, the universe seems to be infinite, when from a 4 dimensional point of view, it is really very small.[/QUOTE] :aaaaa: Actually, if you mean the 4th dimension as time, then yes, it is very small time wise as there is only one time taking place.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;20780935]Thinking about stuff like this is rather pointless.[/QUOTE] Religion was born!
[QUOTE=Thorny;20780920]Humans can't comprehend these kinds of things properly. .[/QUOTE] The only people who say that are people who are to afraid to think of such things.
What if Pinocchio said... "My nose will now grow."
[QUOTE=Kade;20787516]You understand that our solar system isn't called the milky way right? And that even when our sun dies, there could potentially be other stars in the milky way hosting life.[/QUOTE] This. Also, where did you pull 300 billion years from? Our sun is about half-way through its life expectancy: [url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Solar_Life_Cycle.svg[/url] Not even the universe is purported to be 300 billion years old.
Pfft, 300 billion years? You wish! Try 5 billion! Yes, one day we'll all be dead. One day the UNIVERSE will probably be dead. And when that happens space and time will cease to exist, and because time is a necessity for events to have happened, and time will cease to exist, in a way the universe itself will never really have actually existed... even though it does now. You exist in the first place so quit worrying about the eventual demise of yourself, everyone you know and love, the entire human species, Earth, the sun, and the universe. You're god damn lucky that EVERYTHING down to the interaction of EVERY atom happened EXACTLY the way it did to allow for the chain of events to happen that lead to your consciousness popping into existence. Take solace in the fact that all of that happened in the first place.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;20780897]Have you grasped the concept that one day in the looming future, everyone you know, everyone I know, everyone anyone has ever known will be dead? Then one day the sun will burn out (don't worry, not for roughly 300 billion years) and all life on earth will cease to exist. There may be life in other galaxies, but no longer in the Milky Way. What is beyond our galaxy? What is beyond that? Is space endless or does it have a limit? Is it physically possible for it to go on forever? Will we ever know what's behind there? Can your brain comprehend nothing? When you die, assuming you don't believe in either heaven or hell (I swear to god if you use this as an entrance to a religious argument I will kill you) can you imagine what nothing is like? You can't imagine nothing because you were born with something, instincts, breathing, essentially all keys to life you were born with. For some reason I've been thinking about things like this a lot recently.[/QUOTE] Why no life in the milky way? If the sun dies there will still be other suns with possibly habitable circumstances.
300 billion years my ass, Sol has at least 5 billion left.
I always start thinking about what's beyond the universe. It has to expand into something, and what could that be?
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;20792324]I always start thinking about what's beyond the universe. It has to expand into something, and what could that be?[/QUOTE] There is no 'outside'. Asking what's 'outside' is a pointless question as 'outside the universe' doesn't exist. The universe is by definition everything that exists.
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