[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;28485433]yes always.
for me totally, every time i did salvia i couldn't take one good thing from it.[/QUOTE]
Thats probably yourself making it bad, don't expect anything from it just let it do its thing.
nope, by that time i was pretty experienced with drugs, i wasn't expecting much anyways. it came as a total shock i thought it would be great.
Don't blame neoseeker for having bad experiences with it, some people just never enjoy it at all, while other people love it.
and i have mad mental problems
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;28484571]See: 2c-x, mcat, Ayahuasca (DMT) tea[/QUOTE]
DMT is a class A in the UK and a schedule 1 under the UN and it's Ayahuasca's active ingredient, it's not legal atall when made up. Even if the ingredients themselves are legal, you have to make it yourself. Also in the past there have been arrests for the possession of Ayahuasca which would probably carry a fairly hefty sentence so it does not come under a good 'legal' high atall.
[QUOTE=bigdan;28488732]Thats probably yourself making it bad, don't expect anything from it just let it do its thing.[/QUOTE]
I've done Salvia at least ten times, on extracts ranging from 5x to 20x. Not one of my experiences was enjoyable enough that I thought, "Hey, I want to do this again."
In fact, most of the times I did Salvia, I remember hitting it and, almost immediately after it began to set in, thinking, "Oh yeah, [i]that's[/i] why I hated it! Now I gotta wait this shit out."
The mental effects never bothered me, but the physical sensations made me so uncomfortable that it just wasn't even worth doing.
That being said, the more intense my experience, the less unpleasant. I had a few, eh, "breakthrough" experiences, which left me in the Salvia void. Those weren't so bad, but they were few, definitely outnumbered by the experiences where I would become part of an ever-growing, ever-repeating, mechanical-but-organic construct. It was weird, and very unpleasant.
[QUOTE=Kanshi;28488329]Eat these for a week straight nothing else and make jenk
Gets me sooooo fucked up[/QUOTE]
Good shit.
the waterbeds n' stuff by me has a variation of these with a "special herbal ingredient" (duh) that they make themselves, they just give them to me for free, since my pizza place gives them free food all the time
rumour has it these just contain the still usa legal jwh compounds.
I took 15mg of melatonin last night just to get to sleep off addie. These lazy cakes prolly taste good but for 3-6 bucks each youd be better off getting a bottle of melatonin pills and a box of little debbie brownies.
[QUOTE=Satane;28476189]Damn, wish they sold those around here.[/QUOTE]
they sell them everywhere around here i dont have the money to buy those but i did try the relaxation drink jesus i fell into sleep quicker than shit xD
[QUOTE=confinedUser;28510626]they sell them everywhere around here i dont have the money to buy those but i did try the relaxation drink jesus i fell into sleep quicker than shit xD[/QUOTE]
haha now imagine being drunk abd drinking one of those
[QUOTE=joe588;28506843]rumour has it these just contain the still usa legal jwh compounds.[/QUOTE]
The jwh compound is actually illegal according to the DEA now. The spice or Legal bud we sell had to change it's formula to be DEA comliant.
Just ate one of these 5 minutes ago. Tasted alright. Waiting for effects....
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;28519944]haha now imagine being drunk abd drinking one of those[/QUOTE]
that must be amazing
couldn't you just go buy a bunch of melatonin at a store?
Melatonin just makes you feel tired. It has no recreational use.
[QUOTE=EtBuh;28520749]The jwh compound is actually illegal according to the DEA now. The spice or Legal bud we sell had to change it's formula to be DEA comliant.[/QUOTE]
not all of them.
[quote=tcc]# JWH-015 - A chemical of the naphthoylindole family, and also known as, (2-Methyl-1-propyl-1H-indol-3-yl)-1-naphthalenylmethanone, which acts as a subtype-selective cannabinoid agonist. Its affinity for CB2 receptors is 13.8nM, and while its affinity for CB1 is only 383nM, gving JWH-015 a 28x stronger affinity for CB2 receptors, but still has limited CB1 activity. Since JWH-015 is a member of the naphthoylindole group, its metabolism involves epoxidation of the naphthalene ring similar to the metabolic action taken by other aminoalkylindole cannabinoids such as WIN 55,212-2. Epoxidation (a reaction that converts a compound into an epoxide) of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons has been shown to produce carcinogenic metabolites, although there is no evidence to show that JWH-015 is actually carcinogenic in vivo.
# JWH-018 - ILLEGAL - another chemical from the naphthoylindole family, also known as Naphthalen-1-yl-(1-pentylindol-3-yl)methanone (or 1-pentyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole). It acts as a full agonist of both the CB1 and CB2 receptors. This makes it a very potent compound with studies showing an affinity for the cannabinoid brain (CB1) receptor five times greater than that of THC. One attribute that sets JWH-018 apart from the other JWH compounds, JWH-018 may cause intense anxiety, agitation, paranoia, and panic attack symptoms by inhibiting GABA neurotransmission more efficiently than other partial agonist JWH compounds or THC. JWH-018 also contains a naphthalene ring similar to JWH-015, and carries the same fears of carcinogenic activity. The inventor of the JWH family, John W. Huffman, has been quoted as saying JWH-018 has no medical use, stating, "It's like LSD, the only thing it is good for is getting you high."
# JWH-073 - ILLEGAL - yet another chemical from the naphthoylindole family, also known as naphthalen-1-yl-(1-butylindol-3-yl)methanone, which acts as a partial agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 cannabinoid receptors. With its affinities, JWH-073 has been shown to produce psychological and behavioral effects very similar to delta-9-THC in animals. Its effects are produced by binding and acting as an agonist to both the CB1 and CB2 receptors. JWH-073 bind to CB1 with a higher affinity than THC, suggesting that taking more too soon after the initial dose could lead to diminished effects. Wikipedia says, "A search in the literature yielded no published studies of the effects of JWH-073 in humans, but these studies in animals suggest with high probability that JWH-073 produces effects very similar to those of THC in humans." There is also the cautionary note of the naphthalene ring and carcinogens
# JWH-081 - a chemical from the naphthoylindole family, also known as 4-methoxynaphthalen-1-yl-1-pentylindol- 3-yl)methanone which acts as an agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 receptors. It is fairly selective for the CB1 subtype, with affinity at this subtype approximately 10 times the affinity at CB2. Yet another JWH series compound that also carries the naphthalene ring as well.
# JWH-122 - from the napthoylindole family, JWH-122 is the 4-methyl homolouge of JWH-210 (4-ethylnaphthalen-1-yl-(1-pentylindol-3-yl)methanone) alike 210, JWH-122 acts on both the CB1 and CB2 receptors, but at a lower affinity than its counterpart JWH-210. JWH-122 still boasts high affinities for both CB1 (Ki = 0.69 nM) and CB2 (Ki = 1.2 nM) receptors. This compound is becoming very popular as a replacement to the recently banned JWH's for use in retail herbal smoking blends.
# JWH-200 - ILLEGAL - a chemical from the aminoalkylindole family, also known as (1-(2-morpholin-4-ylethyl)indol-3-yl)-naphthalen-1-ylmethanone (or WIN 55,225) which acts as a cannabinoid receptor agonist at CB1. It's binding affinity at the CB1 receptor is 42nM, roughly about the same as THC. Interestingly this compound's analgesic potency was higher in vivo than cannabinoid analogues with higher CB1 binding affinity in vitro. This gives JWH-200 3 times the analgesic effect of THC with much less sedative effect, reflecting favourable pharmacokinetic characteristics.
# JWH-210 - again, a chemical from the naphthoylindole, known as 4-ethylnaphthalen-1-yl-(1-pentylindol-3-yl)methanone. This compound is one of the most potent of the 4-substituted naphthoyl derivatives in the naphthoylindole series, having a higher binding affinity than both its 4-methyl (JWH-122) and 4-n-propyl (JWH-182) homolouges, as well as JWH-081. The compound acts as a potent cannabinoid agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 receptors, with Ki values of 0.46nM at CB1 and 0.69nM at CB2.
# JWH-250 - chemical from the phenylacetylindole family, also known as 2-(2-methoxyphenyl)-1-(1-pentylindol-3-yl)ethanone, acting as an agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 receptors, with an affinity of 11nM at CB1 and 33nM at CB2. Unlike many of the older JWH series compounds, this compound does not have the naphthalene ring that weighs on the minds of JWH users, instead occupying this position with a 2'-methoxyphenylacetyl group, making JWH-250 a popular choice as a substitution for JWH-018 in retail herbal blends marketed in areas where only certian chemcial structures are banned (eg. JWH-018 and 073) I believe this falls under the radar since its no where near related to either of those two, being from the phenylacetylindole family and structurally different completely than JWH-018.[/quote]
that's not including the win, the cp, the am families too.
so uh, have your dumb back.
Op is full of shit. Brownies did nothing. Waste of money. Figured as much.
Getting really sleepy isn't comparable to being baked.
Extreme tiredness can have a lot of effects such as laughter for no reason, hallucinations, delusional thoughts, memory loss, red eyes, and more. But it really isn't at all the same at all as being high, but there are a few similar effects.
A lot of people have made the mistake of thinking I'm high when I'm just really tired.
hey guise i jus snorted liek 4 melatonin peelz n im totaly screwt up
[QUOTE=2-d;28531974]Op is full of shit. Brownies did nothing. Waste of money. Figured as much.[/QUOTE]
You might have an immunity to it's effects, because I tried one yesterday and ended up napping on the couch for an hour and thirteen minutes!
[QUOTE=joe588;28523796]not all of them.
that's not including the win, the cp, the am families too.
so uh, have your dumb back.[/QUOTE]
ok. I was referring to where I live. In the state of Virginia it seems all of the jwh compunds are illegal. if they are still legal, all of the letters my business has received from the city and the DEA are all full of shit.
We have a shop in the city of Norfolk, and we are forbidden to sell all forms of spice there, already raided by the DEA months ago at that store. At our shop across the water, we are still able to sell some forms of spice. Kratom and Kava as well.
[QUOTE=Pepin;28538513]Extreme tiredness can have a lot of effects such as laughter for no reason, hallucinations, delusional thoughts, memory loss, red eyes, and more.[/QUOTE]
Sleep deprivation increases the levels of dopamine in the brain.
[editline]13th March 2011[/editline]
[quote=Joe558's quote]The inventor of the JWH family, John W. Huffman, has been quoted as saying JWH-018 has no medical use, stating, "It's like LSD, the only thing it is good for is getting you high."[/quote]
What a dumbass. LSD has been shown to help significantly with migraines and cluster headaches (Hoffman was supposedly searching for a drug to help with migraines/cluster headaches when he first accidentally synthesized LSD) and ease the symptoms of OCD. There have also been reports of Psilocybin/Psilocin helping in the same ways.
so i had gotten really high and bought a lazy cake it made my high feel so good when i looked at the brownie it had shiny stuff on it
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