Iron Man 3 (2013) - A technological thriller set in the world of international war, arms and terror.
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I'd like to note that this whole argument started because of a joke I put in spoiler tags after mentioning how Tony is still hardcore without the suit
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;40760981]Yeah I know that but like I said, Iron Man could just grab the shield off him. He's stronger than the Captain and has thrusters too. It won't take much for Iron Man to wrestle it off from Captain America. No one is questioning the durability of that shield. Iron Man has dodged faster things than the shield, like that tank round from the first movie. His shield is the only factor preventing the Captain from getting massacred from the first few minutes/seconds of the fight.[/QUOTE]
You forget that the shield richochets like a mother fucker.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;40761152]You forget that the shield richochets like a mother fucker.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but it only delays the inevitable. It's worse if it's out in the open battlefield or something because the only thing that the shield can richochet from is Iron Man, providing he doesn't dodge or catch it. Plus, Captain America isn't strong enough to throw it hard enough to seriously screw up the suit. The Captain loses against most versions of the Iron Man suits.
Everyone talks about the shield blocking everything, but I remember Loki bashing it out of the way when Cap shielded himself, and Loki knocking it away when thrown at him. Sure the material takes a lot of punishment, doesn't mean Cap won't have in knocked out of his hands though.
[QUOTE=acds;40769193]Everyone talks about the shield blocking everything, but I remember Loki bashing it out of the way when Cap shielded himself, and Loki knocking it away when thrown at him. Sure the material takes a lot of punishment, doesn't mean Cap won't have in knocked out of his hands though.[/QUOTE]
Well it can soak up all direct kinetic force but it's not untouchable, as opposed to Thor's hammer who can't even be held by anyone else.
Well actually Captain America can use Thor's hammer but I don't think we'll see that in the movies
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;40770154]Well actually Captain America can use Thor's hammer but I don't think we'll see that in the movies[/QUOTE]
What
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40770335]What[/QUOTE]
Did I stutter?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40770335]What[/QUOTE]
Its not that Thor is the only one who can lift it, or that he's the only one strong enough.
You have to be worthy.
Which is why Captain America, Superman, Spider-Man 2099 and i believe regular Spider-Man can all lift it.
Screw your shitlords, Superman where it's at.
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[QUOTE=AaronM202;40770835]Its not that Thor is the only one who can lift it, or that he's the only one strong enough.
You have to be worthy.
Which is why Captain America, Superman, Spider-Man 2099 and i believe regular Spider-Man can all lift it.[/QUOTE]
Hulk can lift it with pure strength.
Can't in the movies though.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;40770968]Hulk can lift it with pure strength.
Can't in the movies though.[/QUOTE]
No he cant.
The Ultimate Avengers animated movie was pretty bullshit on that.
Red Hulk used it once, but to be fair, both he and thor were in space.
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;40760526]What about it? He can easily wrestle it off him. It's not like the shield is faster than that (second?) tank round that was shot at him in the first Iron Movie. [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] However if Stark used the armour that was used most throughout[sp]Iron Man 3[/sp], I'd say the Captain has a very good chance of curbstomping Iron Man[/QUOTE]
The shield can absorb vibration and momentum and is harder than Iron Man's suit, and Captain America is capable of moving about three times faster than Tony can. If Cap felt like killing Tony, literally one hit would be all it took, because Tony doesn't have an admantium suit, which is the only thing harder than Cap's shield.
Wait can't Tony move like past the speed of sound with his armor ? Based on the movie it doesn't really look like Captain could run that fast.
You're mistaking linear motion for reflex action.
[QUOTE=27X;40772013]You're mistaking linear motion for reflex action.[/QUOTE]
Well my main strategy for getting read of the captain if I had an armor that could go supersonic would wait for him to not look and just charge him in his back at the speed of sound and break his spinal cord with a supersonic headbutt.
Then just beat his face to a pulp while he can't move because his spine is demolished.
[QUOTE=27X;40771819]The shield can absorb vibration and momentum and is harder than Iron Man's suit, and Captain America is capable of moving about three times faster than Tony can. If Cap felt like killing Tony, literally one hit would be all it took, because Tony doesn't have an admantium suit, which is the only thing harder than Cap's shield.[/QUOTE]
No see if that was true then anything weaker than vibranium would be instant cheese if Captain threw the shield at it which doesn't happen.
[video=youtube;S6j0VdQkJPo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6j0VdQkJPo[/video]
Iron Man supposedly has the suit tech to dodge that second tank round shot at him which did happened in the first movie.
[video=youtube;YRCTPq2QEGc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc[/video]
Captain America can not throw his shield faster or stronger than that. He is also not strong enough to physically punch through Iron Man's suit. Stark has enough stuff on his suits to overwhelm the Captain and his shield. Iron Man could literally just slam him at supersonic speeds, wrestle the shield off him and beat him to death with it.
Really, the shield is the only thing that can help Cap at all.
There's a reason this happened:
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I think we are using movie feats for this little debate. Because if not, these gut wrenching pages can be posted. Poor Cap
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[QUOTE=Butthurter;40775310]whose the chick with the fine bare ass[/QUOTE]
I believe that's Sharon Carter. A love interest for the Captain.
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;40775396]I believe that's Sharon Carter. A love interest for the Captain.[/QUOTE]
Or She-Hulk
Gonna go watch it again with my sister. Anything I should be on the lookout for this time?
I kinda thought about the movie and the supposed end scene with GotG
[sp] It wouldn't go with the fact that he has a panic attack talking about space and aliens in the movie, and yet hes off flying into space meeting up with aliens [/sp]
I was wondering, what's so special about the suit mark 42? [sp]By the end of the movie all the other suits operate on their own and can jump onto Tony's body. The fact it can turn into separate parts?[/sp]
If I hated The Avengers and Iron Man 2, will I enjoy this?
[QUOTE=Skyward;40792587]If I hated [B]The Avengers[/B] and Iron Man 2, will I enjoy this?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, you might think about getting a soul first.
Avengers was total crap. Come the fuck at me.
I'll be honest, you probably won't like this all that much then, but you may be surprised.
[QUOTE=Skyward;40792749]Avengers was total crap. Come the fuck at me.[/QUOTE]
For what reason do you think it's crap? Right now it looks like you only came here to say "Hey everyone, I hate The Avengers! Look how cool I am!"
[editline]26th May 2013[/editline]
Also, I'm finally getting a chance to watch this movie tomorrow. My local theatre doesn't show anything but obscure shit so I'm glad I have to be travelling.
[QUOTE=Akasori;40792776]For what reason do you think it's crap? Right now it looks like you only came here to say "Hey everyone, I hate The Avengers! Look how cool I am!"
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Or you're just being defensive because I hate a movie you like, and I came here because I'm being dragged to see this in approximately 47 minutes and was curious if I should be remotely excited.
The whole movie was boring to me, I legit started nodding off at the end. I generally find Whedon to be straight up hit or miss. Excuse me if I don't feel like writing a whole review. If I had come here to wave how much I hated avengers in your face, I would, but I couldn't give two shits if you disagree. Seriously, feel free to like whatever garbage you do. Hell I liked SWTOR.
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