The Tank and other related AFVs. - General

Sorry but I just got to throw down the Abrams and Challenger as the actual best kickass tanks out there in the real world, followed by the Tiger and Panzer tanks from WW2

[QUOTE=radioactive;21307305]Italian Engineering at it's best.[/QUOTE] Ahem. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/SC06_2003_Enzo_Ferrari_2.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=SBD;21307658]Ahem. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/SC06_2003_Enzo_Ferrari_2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] real men use tanks not cars

Real men use fists

The OP tanks look clumsy and bunky.

[QUOTE=piranhamatt2;21307473]Your tanks are inferior to my death tank [img]http://i25.tinypic.com/sxhok2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] It's a tower with treads that's basically holding up a giant shoot me sign.

[QUOTE=WeztPoint;21309963]The OP tanks look clumsy and bunky.[/QUOTE] No shit, the designs are almost 100 years old.

[img]http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8088/1221406308civintb.jpg[/img] them Russians... i think that's a IL-76..

[QUOTE=piranhamatt2;21307473]Your tanks are inferior to my death tank [img]http://i25.tinypic.com/sxhok2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] A shot to the rotor area and that thing's out of commission. As long as it doesn't get reflected off.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20997279] Again, it's close, but us spending [b]55%[/b] of our money on military shows big time, and for the moment we still have the best thing on the field.[/QUOTE] US economy: $12 Trillon US Military Budget for 2010: $685 Billion No.

What Naval rocket launcher moves around on giant tracks while firing at cities in central Russia? [QUOTE=The Ripper;20931472]Fuck all your experimental shit. I give you Karl-Gerät self-propelled 600mm siege howitzer. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Mortars_Karlgeret_Adam.jpg/800px-Mortars_Karlgeret_Adam.jpg[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Karl6.jpg[/img] Here's the shell it fired. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Warsaw_Uprising_by_Joachimczyk_-_Dud_in_Adria_-_459.jpg/384px-Warsaw_Uprising_by_Joachimczyk_-_Dud_in_Adria_-_459.jpg[/img] [editline]12:44AM[/editline] Wrong. It's a NAVAL ROCKET launcher. Look it up. [editline]12:47AM[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-mYxJA_V_8&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE] [editline]02:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PEn1s lol;20964011][img]http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/t64sh.jpg[/img] T-64 One of my favorute tanks. It would own a abrams[/QUOTE] Only in your dreams...

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20922260]There's only been 2 challengers damaged in combat and only one destroyed. In one engagement a Challenger survived 14 hits from rocket propelled grenades and from one MILAN anti tank missile The only damage of that was 2 sights messed up and thrown tracks. Another was hit by around 70 RPG's, coming out from that relatively unscathed. Of the two that were damaged, the most severe injury was the loss of a leg, the next one was loss of three toes, there has been another crewman injured in them but that was minor injuries. Challenger 2 also has a onboard kettle perfect for those mid war cups of tea. It can also fire as accurate while moving as it can while standing still, which few tanks actually can do.[/QUOTE]It's never mentioned what kind of RPG rounds are used. If it was anti-personnel, it would've done bugger all to the armour. Surviving a MILAN hit is slightly more impressive, though again we don't know if it was one of the newer ones or the first model. I'm not saying any of the current gen tanks are better than the other because to be honest, none have been tested against current gen weapon systems yet. Old Soviet hand-me-downs aren't going to do dick against modern armour of any country. [editline]10:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=LordLoss;21228061]It wasn't though, almost everything about the Tiger was miles ahead of the competition. The Challenger however, has a decent engine, very good amour, it's getting good gun and it has fairly bad electronics (compaired to M1A2 and L2A6).[/QUOTE]The only good thing about the Tiger was it's armour and gun. It had a shit speed, got trapped in uneven terrain a lot (and good luck towing that bastard out of there!) and broke down frequently. The Panther was superior in every way except side and rear armour. It's a great tank if you want to hold something and never let go, but a Panther is far superior on the offensive merely because it's not such a giant logistical pain in the ass.