• Marijuana - The good, the bad, and the unknown
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[QUOTE=kingzl3y;17201215] I mean, if you really think about it. It's a plant, it grows naturally. [/QUOTE] Tobacco Deadly Nightshade Hemlock
[QUOTE=lazyguy;17213767]Tobacco Deadly Nightshade Hemlock[/QUOTE] Fuck man, why aren't we removing those dangerous plants from our earth? :downs:
[QUOTE=Lolerskins;17208672]truth. And the government fuels that pot is bad to keep people straight, and under their control. Whereas us stoners, you hear us shitting on the government all the time, because we know what they are really planning... Like this recession, fully planned. they are throwing the world into poverty, to kill off most of the already starving population... And make life harder for those who do have money [and a loop effect; there will be somewhat less stoners as they can no longer afford to support themselves and have to quit]. The government may look good, giving people stimulus packages, but really they are sick bastards.[/QUOTE] ......What?
[QUOTE=Lolerskins;17208842]The smaller countries like the Netherlands think for themselves, hence weed is legal.[/QUOTE] Decriminalized, not legal. Politicians are even trying to make new laws to push back tourism and keeping coffeeshops to the locals only.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;17213481]I think they should stop war on drugs... But I still think weed is not so soft drug, maybe just cause I am allergic to it... ( the creeper ). And after weed high stopped, I just feel like I had got some sort of damage to my brain... strangely hallucinogens doesn't do that to me.[/QUOTE] Might just be because you're allergic to it. I consider it a soft drug. By definition it isn't though. But that definition calls anything with psychoactive effects a hard drug. I consider anything that doesn't come from the ground a hard drug.
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;17213619]All we do is talk about weed in there anyways This is a good thread for keeping the dummies in GD where they belong[/QUOTE] But it's so bright out here! I liked it in our dark little room. :eek: I just got a pretty cool idea. It may have already been done and it has nothing to do with this thread. Someone should make a valve map of Facepunch, but as one big building or small block. General Discussion could be like a big meeting room, DD would be a room full of smoke and bongs, the OIFY would be either some crazy portal or just a nasty back alley, and the Gold members crack lounge, well that one speaks for it's self.
Really, I, for the most part, want it to be legalized just because it would collapse gang and mafia funding. They get around half of their money from it. If the government wants to fight gangs, that's a good way to start. I don't currently smoke pot because I can't find trustworthy drug dealers (if they even exist). I would much rather buy it from a company that is regulated so I can know what's in it and what its quality is going to be. Also, it would decline the price and violence because in business, if somebody is selling cheaper than you, you either drop your price or make a better product. In the illegal world, if someone sells a better and/or cheaper product, they usually get killed/beat up for it. As far as its danger goes? Most of the negative effects you here comes from "Reefer Madness", which said a bunch of bizarre shit like: "Weed can cause schizophrenia!" or "Weed can turn a mild-mannered child into a serial killer!". If you've ever been around someone while they were high, you would know anyone on it lacks the ambition. I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I've been around potheads, drunks and speed abusers, and potheads are the only ones who have never scared me. Every person I know who is a major pothead does at least one other drug regularly, showing me that they have addictive personalities, or just have their priorities mixed up. All and all, I obviously think it's worthless to criminalize. But, people have been saying these things for a while. We probably will have to actually do something if we really want it legalized. Until pot's legal and I don't have to deal with scumbag drug dealers, I'm sticking with my shisha. It may not be as good, but it's cheaper and serves its purpose.
I honestly took a 6-page math test and fucking BOMBED it. The teacher allowed me to do a rewrite with an hour of study time for it. It was finals and naturally I only brought a pencil/eraser, nothing to study. So I went to took ALOT of bong hits behind my school with some friends, went re-wrote the test and got 79% as compared to 36% when sober. Why? Cause the weed made me so fucking interested in the questions I actually focused and shocked the shit out of my dickfarmer of a teacher. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;17223598]Really, I, for the most part, want it to be legalized just because it would collapse gang and mafia funding. They get around half of their money from it. If the government wants to fight gangs, that's a good way to start. I don't currently smoke pot because I can't find trustworthy drug dealers (if they even exist). I would much rather buy it from a company that is regulated so I can know what's in it and what its quality is going to be. Also, it would decline the price and violence because in business, if somebody is selling cheaper than you, you either drop your price or make a better product. In the illegal world, if someone sells a better and/or cheaper product, they usually get killed/beat up for it. As far as its danger goes? Most of the negative effects you here comes from "Reefer Madness", which said a bunch of bizarre shit like: "Weed can cause schizophrenia!" or "Weed can turn a mild-mannered child into a serial killer!". If you've ever been around someone while they were high, you would know anyone on it lacks the ambition. I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I've been around potheads, drunks and speed abusers, and potheads are the only ones who have never scared me. Every person I know who is a major pothead does at least one other drug regularly, showing me that they have addictive personalities, or just have their priorities mixed up. All and all, I obviously think it's worthless to criminalize. But, people have been saying these things for a while. We probably will have to actually do something if we really want it legalized. Until pot's legal and I don't have to deal with scumbag drug dealers, I'm sticking with my shisha. It may not be as good, but it's cheaper and serves its purpose.[/QUOTE] All my dealers are pretty much the most trustworthy people I know. Probably because I tend to get along with everyone and I'm a fuckin DE-CENT customer.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;17213481]I think they should stop war on drugs... But I still think weed is not so soft drug, maybe just cause I am allergic to it... ( the creeper ). And after weed high stopped, I just feel like I had got some sort of damage to my brain... strangely hallucinogens doesn't do that to me.[/QUOTE] I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that English isn't your primary language. [editline]03:27AM[/editline] [QUOTE=lazyguy;17213767]Tobacco Deadly Nightshade Hemlock[/QUOTE] Tobacco is legal to smoke and I don't think it's illegal to smoke the others if you so choose.
[QUOTE=Malumbre;17224623]Tobacco is legal to smoke and I don't think it's illegal to smoke the others if you so choose.[/QUOTE] That's not my point.
[QUOTE=Skifer UK;14787883]I was going out of reality like i was watching a computer screen like it was a movie or something I always have a sense that i am going to faint at any moment.[/QUOTE] Dude, that happens to me fairly often and I've never used weed. I think it depends on the person, because the effect that marijuana has on people is closely correlated to what their mind's like. I don't know, but the way I see it is, we're not winning the "War on Drugs" anyway, just legalize them all and eventually people (at least those in well-connected societies) will learn which drugs fuck people up and which don't as much. All drugs harm people, but each in different ways.
This thread houses not even close to how much misinformation and false assumptions are out there about this, I don't really think debating it will get us anywhere. If people had questions maybe we could get somewhere.
Hey somebody from Germany know if azarius really deliver their stuff to Germany, their disclaimer doesn't say anything else? I could write them, but maybe someone knows. Wanted to buy some Salvia Extract and shrooms.
My question is why they don't legalize the plant itself. Hemp can be used for so many things. For instance we wouldn't have to worry about deforestation or wasting materials, because one big hemp field could supply a fuck load of paper and cloth. And its not like prohibition has ever worked(tobacco, alcohol) so other than the fact that the government won't profit much from legalizing, there's really no reason to prohibit it. Plus it wouldn't have to be a big deal anymore..
[QUOTE=Malumbre;17224623] Tobacco is legal to smoke and I don't think it's illegal to smoke the others if you so choose.[/QUOTE] His point is just because something comes from the ground doesn't mean its okay to put in your body.
[QUOTE=blafnigem;17339962]My question is why they don't legalize the plant itself. Hemp can be used for so many things. For instance we wouldn't have to worry about deforestation or wasting materials, because one big hemp field could supply a fuck load of paper and cloth. And its not like prohibition has ever worked(tobacco, alcohol) so other than the fact that the government won't profit much from legalizing, there's really no reason to prohibit it. Plus it wouldn't have to be a big deal anymore..[/QUOTE] Organized crime makes 70 % of it's money with drugs. Legalize drugs without prohibitions = near-fatal blow to most crime syndicates.
[QUOTE=Poltergeist Three;17339548]Hey somebody from Germany know if azarius really deliver their stuff to Germany, their disclaimer doesn't say anything else? I could write them, but maybe someone knows. Wanted to buy some Salvia Extract and shrooms.[/QUOTE] ?
[QUOTE=ilw;17206018]an accomplishment? What have you accomplished? Brainwashed by the government[/QUOTE] Stopped reading here.
smoke weed erry day:350: ~420~
I for it being legal, but I personally don't do any drugs, even legal ones. But I think it should be made legal.
[QUOTE=Superintendent;17358035]Stopped reading here.[/QUOTE] poor wording IMO, but if you don't think the government acts on its own agenda you're incredibly naive
[QUOTE=Conscript;17361127]poor wording IMO, but if you don't think the government acts on its own agenda you're incredibly naive[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised how incredibly naive some people are. Just look at the high level of ignorance on the subject of a plant.
weed is safe and helps you to relax everyone should smoke it, they should teach children at the school it very safe!
California is working on a bill to Legalize and regulate Marijuana. If the bill passes, they are going to tax it which will generate roughly 14 billion dollars for the state, to help get out of their 30 billion slump.
The reverse of what happened during illegalization will happen, California will do it, get money, and all the states will butthurt about it and then legalize it themselves and eventually Canada will catch on too cause they are too fucking scared to do shit without America's approval.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;18086054]California is working on a bill to Legalize and regulate Marijuana. If the bill passes, they are going to tax it which will generate roughly 14 billion dollars for the state, to help get out of their 30 billion slump.[/QUOTE] Didn't they already do this?
they haven't passed it yet. Feb-2010
exciting times gentlemen
If this goes through, I'm going to Cali for college.
Sorry to bump this whole thread, but it seems there's an ongoing argument about weed, so I represent you this thread. Good day. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Bump" - RawRKat!90))[/highlight]
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