• Marijuana - The good, the bad, and the unknown
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[QUOTE=KestasLT;19685129]When marijuana doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like heroine[/QUOTE] Nope. You are wrong.
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19685129]When marijuana doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like heroine[/QUOTE] Yeah, if I don't get my next hit I inject Heroin, Crystal Meth, Amphetamines and Cocaine.
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19685129]When marijuana doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like heroine[/QUOTE] When sugar doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like crystal meth. When milk doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like moonshine. When your girlfriend doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like cthulhu. Makes perfect sense.
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19685129]When marijuana doesen't suffice, you start looking for stronger stuff, like heroine[/QUOTE] When normal posting doesn't suffice, you start doing stronger stuff, like trolling.
[QUOTE=Squad;19683888]Smoking it isn't healthy. It is less harmful than breathing city smog? Okay, but if you smoke weed you are inhaling smoke AND city smog. Just because you smoke weed doesn't mean you are no longer breathing in average air. So you would be inhaling more harmful particles than I would.[/QUOTE] Haha. "You're breathing more harmful particles than I am!" Big deal, you're still going to die. Possibly from something completely unrelated to health. [QUOTE=Squad;19683888]Save your life? If you have asthma smoke bud? Really? I am a few years short of being a doctor, but I am pretty sure if you have asthma your main priority would be to avoid inhaling smoke.[/QUOTE] It's not about the smoke inhilation, it's the healthful effects of cannabinoids. And vaporization or eating the herb takes away any lung damage. [QUOTE=Squad;19683888]You say it isn't a gateway drug but you will try shrooms? Shrooms will kill you. If someone gives you some random shrooms they could stop your heart within a minute and leave you dead. If you want to smoke weed and support it do that... Don't say "Dude listen to me I have the brain power to know that shrooms will be totally rad duuude".[/QUOTE] First off, while shrooms are more mentally challenging, they are are even less toxic than marijuana. Second, the gateway drug theory is bullshit in itself, but shrooms are NOT a drug that someone uses for a better 'buzz.' Shrooms are powerful psychedelics that further expand your mind and can change your views on life. Second, you're only going to get laced drugs from shady dealers. In most areas, it's quite possible to find a trustworthy dealer. Shows how much you really know about drugs and the drug culture in general. [QUOTE=Squad;19683888]I am not actively trying to stop weed being legalized, but your ignorance is strong. [/QUOTE] Rather ironic. [QUOTE=Squad;19683888]To the guy above saying it is illogical? How do you think people moved onto selling other drugs? The money was better... You have to at least consider that by legalizing weed and taking it out of the hands of every day sellers that they will actively search for other means to make money. (Not legal ways).[/QUOTE] Yes, people might move on to selling other drugs, but they might also take the effort to get a job. And just because people start selling other drugs doesn't mean that the demand will increase. But why is it your concern to stop people from doing hard drugs? Do those people affect you?
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19683245]-The government HAS recognized the uses of weed and it's total harmlessness. But guess what? They won't make any money from legalizing it. So they won't legalize it. [/quote]Taxes. [quote]-Cigarette lobbyists hold a good chunk power and won't allow the legalization of weed because, guess what, they will lose money.[/quote] I don't believe any of this shit about corporations getting it banned. Believe it or not, companies do NOT have worldwide influence. [quote]-Smoking bud is healthy (the smoke is less harmful then breathing in city smog). [/quote]I don't live in a city. It's less healthy than breathing in fresh air, even the coal-contaminated shit where I live. Also this crap about it curing cancer is BS. [quote]-It can save your life. Heart attack? Smoke some bud. Asthma attack? Smoke some bud. Cannabis is a natural inhaler and natures aspirin[/quote]You're an idiot. [quote]-It is not a gateway drug. Me and my friends have been smoking for quite awhile and definitely feel no inclination to try any hard drugs. (we might try shrooms though)[/quote]"It's not a gateway drug, it just makes me want to do other drugs." :downs: [quote] -It's a great way to relax and listen to music after a really hard and trying day. If you have a very stressful life, bud is the perfect medicine. (In Cali and other medical states, bud IS prescribed for such things) [/quote] Yeah, see, I'm not a pothead, so I can relax for free. [quote] -I've already mentioned why it's not going to be laced. And for the guy above, mentioning that it can be laced with leaves, yeah sometimes jerks may drop you some oregano. Don't buy from them again. [/quote]How would you know? [editline]09:18PM[/editline] PS [url]http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n7/full/6605281a.html[/url]
[QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901] I don't believe any of this shit about corporations getting it banned. Believe it or not, companies do NOT have worldwide influence.[/quote] The corporate world is the reason why it was made illegal in the first place. [QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901]I don't live in a city. It's less healthy than breathing in fresh air, even the coal-contaminated shit where I live. Also this crap about it curing cancer is BS.[/quote] It's not. Studies found marijuana shrinks certain kinds of cancerous tumors. [QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901]"It's not a gateway drug, it just makes me want to do other drugs." :downs:[/quote] Deciding to try shrooms =/= getting bored of the marijuana high [QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901] Yeah, see, I'm not a pothead, so I can relax for free.[/quote] lol you have no idea what relaxed means until you get stoned [QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901]How would you know?[/QUOTE] If it's oregano/leaves/anything that looks like bud? Simple, experience. [quote]PS [url]http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v1.../6605281a.html[/url][/quote] Need to be logged in, but i'm interested on how they can distinguish between the cannabis and the tobacco/domestic fumes causing carcinoma.
MY BROTHER DIED AFTER OVERDOSING ON MARIJUANA He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend. My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to. Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him. The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of blood in his THC. But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901] :words: [B]Yeah, see, I'm not a pothead, so I can relax for free.[/B] :words: [/QUOTE] This is one of the worst arguments.... ever. "Yeah, see, I'm not a gamer, so I can relax for free." You can apply it to anything. "Yeah, see, I'm not a gambler, so I can relax for free." etc What matters is whether or not you are relaxing. So fucking what if people want to smoke weed to relax? Big fucking whoop. It's far more sociable than sitting alone on the computer posting on facepunch.
[QUOTE=Conscript;19689008]The corporate world is the reason why it was made illegal in the first place. It's not. Studies found marijuana shrinks certain kinds of cancerous tumors. [B]See my link below[/B] Deciding to try shrooms =/= getting bored of the marijuana high [B]I never said he was getting bored[/B] lol you have no idea what relaxed means until you get stoned [B]Durrrr Sam Dingle :downs:[/B] If it's oregano/leaves/anything that looks like bud? Simple, experience. [B]Isn't much of a help when you're a first timer and you end up smoking nettles.[/B] Need to be logged in, but i'm interested on how they can distinguish between the cannabis and the tobacco/domestic fumes causing carcinoma.[B]You could say that for any experiment involving cancer and cannabis.[/B][/QUOTE] [editline]09:31PM[/editline] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;179/4075/803?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]Cannabis makes you stupid[/url] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;192/4245/1249?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]And you keep on being stupid[/url] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/sci;309/5732/222c?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]And it'll make your baby stupid.[/url]
[quote]See my link below[/quote] [url=http://radio.weblogs.com/0105910/2004/09/05.html]See[/url] [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512158,00.html]these[/url] [url=http://www.marijuanacancercure.com/?p=32]links[/url] [quote]I never said he was getting bored[/quote] You don't have to, as its the centerpiece of the gateway drug 'theory' [quote]Isn't much of a help when you're a first timer and you end up smoking nettles. [/quote] It doesn't take much experience to tell the difference between bud and oregano (just look at pictures of them). If it's that much of a problem get a friend to help you [quote]You could say that for any experiment involving cancer and cannabis.[/quote] No you couldn't, because you're just testing cannabis, not throwing it in along with other confirmed cancer-causing sources. Also I don't trust two old articles from the same time they unprofessionally 'discovered' weed kills brain cells, the 70's. It was during the height of the war on drugs, after all. Anyway not doing drugs when your pregnant is fucking common sense.
I used to get stoned every now and then, but lately all I do is just get really monged out and feel lazy, I reckon I'll probably enjoy it if I'm with a group of friends that all are (group experience is where it's at yo) but otherwise not really too bothered with the stuff
[QUOTE=waxrock;19689137] It's far more sociable than sitting alone on the computer posting on facepunch.[/QUOTE] Healthier too
[QUOTE=DaveP;19690106]I used to get stoned every now and then, but lately all I do is just get really monged out and feel lazy, I reckon I'll probably enjoy it if I'm with a group of friends that all are (group experience is where it's at yo) but otherwise not really too bothered with the stuff[/QUOTE] Try and get some sativa weed, it's prolly the indica thats glueing you to a couch
[QUOTE=lazyguy;19688901]Taxes.[/quote] fair enough [quote]I don't believe any of this shit about corporations getting it banned. Believe it or not, companies do NOT have worldwide influence.[/quote] No but they do have money, and lobbyists. [url]http://www.polisci.ccsu.edu/trieb/InfluGov.html[/url] [quote]I don't live in a city. It's less healthy than breathing in fresh air, even the coal-contaminated shit where I live.[/quote] True but you are ignoring that you can vaporize (Basically evaporate the THC and inhale it without any burnt plant material. (Or any plant material at all) (THC is the active ingredient). You can also cook it into foods or even get pills. But most people stop at foods. [quote]Also this crap about it curing cancer is BS.[/quote] [url]http://www.forbes.com/feeds/hscout/2009/04/01/hscout625697.html[/url] [quote]You're an idiot.[/quote] Troll [url]http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00.n1746.a04.html[/url] [quote]"It's not a gateway drug, it just makes me want to do other drugs." :downs:[/quote] He didn't say it makes him do shrooms. It is out of curiosity. Besides there is a difference between try and do. [quote]Yeah, see, I'm not a pothead, so I can relax for free.[/quote] Derogatory but I won't take that into account. I must assume that you do not smoke tobacco or drink any alcohol because surely your not a drunk or chain smoker? Right? But on a slightly less accusatory note, then don't smoke weed. No one is imposing it on you. I do like pot so I can occasionally enhance my relaxation with some plant. [quote]How would you know?[/quote] Because its obvious, decent pickups give you intact buds and if you have seen bud more than 5 times in your life you will be able to tell if something is sketchy or not. Some people even inspect their bud for hairs, trichomes and various other characteristics that judge quality. [Quote]PS [url]http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n7/full/6605281a.html[/url][/QUOTE] Keyword: Tobacco It is saying that tobacco when smoked with marijuana is bad because you hold the tobacco smoke in longer because its that's what you do with weed. [editline]02:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lazyguy;19689221][editline]09:31PM[/editline] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;179/4075/803?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]Cannabis makes you stupid[/url] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;192/4245/1249?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]And you keep on being stupid[/url] [url=http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/sci;309/5732/222c?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT]And it'll make your baby stupid.[/url][/QUOTE] None of those help your argument. The fact that someone who was stoned tested the same as someone who thought they were stoned doesn't mean anything for your argument. The second one applys to alcohol too. And the third - No shit don't smoke when your pregnant. That applys for almost every drug. Drinking while your pregnant is just as bad if not worse.
I tried weed yesterday and it was the most amazing experience I've ever had. I had to sit down tho, I was way too dizzy and didn't know what was happening. :350:
[QUOTE=Conscript;19690054][url=http://radio.weblogs.com/0105910/2004/09/05.html]See[/url] [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512158,00.html]these[/url] [url=http://www.marijuanacancercure.com/?p=32]links[/url][/QUOTE] One of the most famous and respected scientific journals in existence vs. 'marijuanacancercure.com' Right.
Look up Rick Simpson. He cured his own cancer and many others by just eating hemp oil daily.
A couple of my friends started doing a bit of cannabis and salvia and shit and I'm fucking pissed off with them about it. I think some of them think I'm too "tame" for not doing it, I've heard they've been doing it behind my back, and that pisses me the fuck off, if they did it while I was there I wouldn't mind as much, but it's been to the point where they deliberately didn't call for me, because they were doing it.
Tell them you don't care if they smoke in front of you. If they still do that shit, they're bad friends.
[QUOTE=ArcNova;19689082]MY BROTHER DIED AFTER OVERDOSING ON MARIJUANA He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend. My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to. Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him. The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of blood in his THC. But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.[/QUOTE] I overdosed on Marijuana and died. It was the single worst experience of my life. Thank God I quit after that.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;19691969]I overdosed on Marijuana and died. It was the single worst experience of my life. Thank God I quit after that.[/QUOTE] i wish my brother was as lucky as you!!! :(
[QUOTE=lazyguy;19691390]One of the most famous and respected scientific journals in existence vs. 'marijuanacancercure.com' Right.[/QUOTE] woo hoo strawman [editline]07:25PM[/editline] i doubt you even read them [editline]07:28PM[/editline] because none of your links prove that marijuana causes cancer
[QUOTE=Squad;19683888] You say it isn't a gateway drug but you will try shrooms? Shrooms will kill you. If someone gives you some random shrooms they could stop your heart within a minute and leave you dead. If you want to smoke weed and support it do that... Don't say "Dude listen to me I have the brain power to know that shrooms will be totally rad duuude".[/QUOTE] Are you serious? Shrooms may be one of the hardest of all drugs to overdose on. Believe it or not, the majority of recreational drugs in the world can be used sparingly with little effect.
lazyguy is 12. [B]Edit:[/B] [QUOTE=OrDnAs;19694059]Well, I would trust a scientific jorurnal mora than a pothead that defends weed. What do we learn about weed threads?: Everybody is an idiot.[/QUOTE] So are you.
Well, I would trust a scientific jorurnal mora than a pothead that defends weed. What do we learn about weed threads?: Everybody is an idiot.
Forget it...
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;19694059]Well, I would trust a scientific jorurnal mora than a pothead that defends weed. What do we learn about weed threads?: Everybody is an idiot.[/QUOTE] so what happens when scientists provide evidence that defends marijuana?
[QUOTE=Squad;19683888]Smoking it isn't healthy. It is less harmful than breathing city smog? Okay, but if you smoke weed you are inhaling smoke AND city smog. Just because you smoke weed doesn't mean you are no longer breathing in average air. So you would be inhaling more harmful particles than I would. Save your life? If you have asthma smoke bud? Really? I am a few years short of being a doctor, but I am pretty sure if you have asthma your main priority would be to avoid inhaling smoke. You say it isn't a gateway drug but you will try shrooms? Shrooms will kill you. If someone gives you some random shrooms they could stop your heart within a minute and leave you dead. If you want to smoke weed and support it do that... Don't say "Dude listen to me I have the brain power to know that shrooms will be totally rad duuude".[/QUOTE] Then eat the weed. Or vaporise it. Lol shrooms will kill you. Some do. That's why you don't accept and eat random shrooms randomly given to you.
[QUOTE=Conscript;19694395]so what happens when scientists provide evidence that defends marijuana?[/QUOTE] Government sacks them :-(
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