i'm restoring an old muscle car and that involves a lot of welding.
i'm getting better and better.
[QUOTE=Hell Strike;27466215]i'm restoring an old muscle car and that involves a lot of welding.
i'm getting better and better.[/QUOTE]
Post some pics! this is a wip thread :P
I'm taking a pre-employment welding course at a trade school right now, OP. I've had previous experience with arc, mig, and oxy-acetylene welding in high school and I'm quickly learning that the only thing high school taught me was bad habits. We've also done a fair bit of oxy-fuel and plasma cutting but those are fuck-easy.
Nonetheless I have managed to set my pant leg on fire [i]twice[/i] and we've only been stick welding for a few weeks
[QUOTE=30Spartan300;27464216]Judging by the post you made, I guess you cant do much on stick or just suck at it.[/QUOTE]
literally the only advantages to stick are overhead welding but wire can do that too just with a worse looking bead
[QUOTE=propan;27467523]literally the only advantages to stick are overhead welding but wire can do that too just with a worse looking bead[/QUOTE]
Depends on how bad of a welder you are and how fast your moving your bead at.
I have a bad wire feed welder I use for general motorbicycling and go-karting hobby use. It has a duty cycle of half a second and can't weld jack shit - but I've managed to squeeze a few motor mounts out of it, which is all I got it for.
I used to do a lot of grinding in shop class :v: My teacher told me I was really good at it. I was too afraid of the welders to use them though (I was afraid of getting shocked or the tanks exploding. :frown: )
I really want to learn Blacksmithing though.
[QUOTE=propan;27467523]literally the only advantages to stick are overhead welding but wire can do that too just with a worse looking bead[/QUOTE]
Pfft just do everything downhand vertical
everybody knows that nice looking beads are the STRONGEST
[editline]16th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Telepethi;27471091]I was too afraid of the welders to use them though (I was afraid of getting shocked or the tanks exploding. :frown: )[/QUOTE]
Flashback arrestors make it almost impossible for a flame to burn back into the tank when oxy-fuel welding, and you'd need to try pretty hard to electrocute yourself arc welding. (Unless you're somewhere extremely wet)
Welding is hella fun, too bad my shop class has no funds :smith: it's a shame too, being in Long Beach where there's so much industrial history
Fabrication is awesome, and I'd love to learn more about it. My interest in more in architectural engineering, but I'd like to study mechanical engineering and metalworking and whatnot as a hobby. When I get back home I'm thinking of taking a welding course at the technical college. It's not too expensive, and it'd be a fun way to spend a few hours a week. My ultimate goal is to design and build my own sport-plane.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27471271]
Flashback arrestors make it almost impossible for a flame to burn back into the tank when oxy-fuel welding, and you'd need to try pretty hard to electrocute yourself arc welding. (Unless you're somewhere extremely wet)[/QUOTE]
Facts do nothing to quell irrational fear.
I don't even like standing next to the acetylene tanks because I'm afraid they're going to blow up
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;27471612]Fabrication is awesome, and I'd love to learn more about it. My interest in more in architectural engineering, but I'd like to study mechanical engineering and metalworking and whatnot as a hobby. When I get back home I'm thinking of taking a welding course at the technical college. It's not too expensive, and it'd be a fun way to spend a few hours a week. My ultimate goal is to design and build my own sport-plane.[/QUOTE]
are you in college now?
I'm more towards woodworking but welding seems pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Sputn!k;27471793]are you in college now?[/QUOTE]
Nope, still in the Army. I'll be starting college as soon as I'm out.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;27471091]I really want to learn Blacksmithing though.[/QUOTE]
You might find these useful:
[url]http://zoellerforge.com/miniforge.html[/url]
[url]http://zoellerforge.com/squareforge.html[/url]
Last semester I took a welding class. It was quite fun, I learned how to stick weld and weld with an oxy-acetylene torch.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;27475698]You might find these useful:
[url]http://zoellerforge.com/miniforge.html[/url]
[url]http://zoellerforge.com/squareforge.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Fuck that shit if I'm going to learn blacksmithing I'm going to do it right with a forge and blowers and coal and coke and real hammers and my own muscle not some fucking fancy shmancy autohammer with gas blowers
[QUOTE=Telepethi;27476507]Fuck that shit if I'm going to learn blacksmithing I'm going to do it right with a forge and blowers and coal and coke and real hammers and my own muscle not some fucking fancy shmancy autohammer with gas blowers[/QUOTE]
Would you happen to be a Dwarf??
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27467148]I'm taking a pre-employment welding course at a trade school right now, OP. I've had previous experience with arc, mig, and oxy-acetylene welding in high school and I'm quickly learning that the only thing high school taught me was bad habits. We've also done a fair bit of oxy-fuel and plasma cutting but those are fuck-easy.
Nonetheless I have managed to set my pant leg on fire [i]twice[/i] and we've only been stick welding for a few weeks[/QUOTE]
I'm lucky i have an amazing welding teacher who welding in the marines and most of his life. He is like 670 years old but he is the best welder i've ever seen.
Haha i lit my crotch region on coveralls fire once while welding.
[editline]17th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sputn!k;27471565]Welding is hella fun, too bad my shop class has no funds :smith: it's a shame too, being in Long Beach where there's so much industrial history[/QUOTE]
That's sad man. My school is probably gonna turn off the program in a couple years do too lack of funding.
Machinist here. Mostly used to using CNC lathes with Fanuc or Mazatrol OS'. I can also do MIG/TIG-welding, stick welding, soldering and spot welding.
Great schools in Finland for metalworker education, by the way.
We got a ton of trade schools in my region but most are garbage.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;27476507]Fuck that shit if I'm going to learn blacksmithing I'm going to do it right with a forge and blowers and coal and coke and real hammers and my own muscle not some fucking fancy shmancy autohammer with gas blowers[/QUOTE]
Don't be dissin'.
The smaller homemade forges are great for starting out, considering actual forges take up quite a bit of room - and some projects are better to run in a gas forge, rather than a coke one.
Same with the hammer. The blacksmiths I visit encourage using one of the automated Big Blu Hammers for large projects - since the faster they can get their work done, the faster they get paid. The power hammers tend to be more accurate, at that.
Smaller, intricate projects though? Knock yourself out with "real" hammers.
I have cheapish MIG welding gear in my garage and it gets used occasionally. Did a lot of Alu welding for my A level project, did most of it at home. Being able to weld 5mm thick without blowing holes in it with a mig took a lot of practice.
[QUOTE=metallics;27478436]I have cheapish MIG welding gear in my garage and it gets used occasionally. Did a lot of Alu welding for my A level project, did most of it at home. Being able to weld 5mm thick without blowing holes in it with a mig took a lot of practice.[/QUOTE]
Ive been looking into getting a decent MIG welder at home too do projects, but id have to hire and electrician to run the necessary wiring and plugs.
[QUOTE=Kontra;27478590]Ive been looking into getting a decent MIG welder at home too do projects, but id have to hire and electrician to run the necessary wiring and plugs.[/QUOTE]
Ahh
I'm an electronic Engineering student, welding isn't ever going to be more than a hobby for me... but I could probably do your wiring for you.
[QUOTE=metallics;27478647]Ahh
I'm an electronic Engineering student, welding isn't ever going to be more than a hobby for me... but I could probably do your wiring for you.[/QUOTE]
Haha i wouldn't suppose you live in ohio?
[QUOTE=Sharkface;27478182]Don't be dissin'.
The smaller homemade forges are great for starting out, considering actual forges take up quite a bit of room - and some projects are better to run in a gas forge, rather than a coke one.
Same with the hammer. The blacksmiths I visit encourage using one of the automated Big Blu Hammers for large projects - since the faster they can get their work done, the faster they get paid. The power hammers tend to be more accurate, at that.
Smaller, intricate projects though? Knock yourself out with "real" hammers.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, gas forges are much more convenient to run because the fuel is more readily available. They won't get quite as hot as a coal forge so they aren't very good for welding or working larger pieces. I use mine mainly for cooking springs and forging arrowheads.
Eventually I'd like to make a big stone coal forge when I get to a place where I'd want to build a big permanent forge, then I can get into pattern welding and such.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;27463446]I didn't do much welding on these, but this is mainly what I make:
[img_thumb]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4632/picture0332h.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1902/0001600.jpg[/img_thumb]
The one on the top fires a .75 cal ball.
The one on the bottom fires a 25mm ball, or three .457 cal buckshot. It's also 6 feet long and weighs 26 and a half pounds.
Most of the welding was done while making the barrel bands. I also have my own system for attaching the pans, so they have a long tang which is welded on.[/QUOTE]
Whoa. I wish I could make shit like that.
im going to learn to be a blacksmith and make myself a KANTANA fold from steel 100 times and is superior to all weapons! ^_^
but really i'd love to make a huge axe to hang up in my room or something
[QUOTE=Kontra;27479193]Haha i wouldn't suppose you live in ohio?[/QUOTE]
Sadly not. UK here :)
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