Sargon of Akkad- The "leftwing" Trump and Theresa May supporter. - General

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;51951680]It doesn't help that people will just, and already do, slap ridiculous labels like "nazi" onto him, further pushing him into that side of the spectrum rather than treating others like people and explaining things. Social media brings out the true inner monster in people by making us pursue zingers and "gotchas!" for a vague sense of fulfillment rather than treat others like human beings and explain our views or question why others see things one way that may be influenced by misinformation or ignorance.[/QUOTE] idk, when he starts bringing up white genocide shit and starts talking about how we have to preserve the genetic "stock" of the people who founded this country the nazi comparisons stop feeling unwarranted

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51951691]idk, when he starts bringing up white genocide shit and starts talking about how we have to preserve the genetic "stock" of the people who founded this country the nazi comparisons stop feeling unwarranted[/QUOTE] When did he say that if I may ask?

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51951691]idk, when he starts bringing up white genocide shit and starts talking about how we have to preserve the genetic "stock" of the people who founded this country the nazi comparisons stop feeling unwarranted[/QUOTE] This belief/conception must be coming somewhere. We should find out where it comes from and inform correctly if need be. I think that even happened during that twitter spat with peanutbutterwhatever, someone corrected Jontron on something and he thanked them for correcting him. We're all human. If someone wants to genuinely be hateful, that's awful, but most people only see one side or experience only one side treating them like a human while the other goes verbally ballistic on them.

[QUOTE=person11;51947516]You can't have the views Sargon has and be a leftwing. Soon enough he will join Jontron on Breitbart.[/QUOTE] [url]https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841045366455840772[/url]

[QUOTE=kariko;51951696]When did he say that if I may ask?[/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841113806952648704[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841060153701064705[/media] like idk but when someone starts talking about protecting the founding stock of the country from foreigners I think you could be forgiven for thinking of nazis

Serious question: how do you know he's referring to race when he says "demographic suicide" and "founding stock" as opposed to ideology? Religion, for example, is also a demographic. Has he specified that in the past? I don't really know anything about Jon Tron's political views beyond those few tweets.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51951726]Serious question: how do you know he's referring to race when he says "demographic suicide" and "founding stock" as opposed to ideology? Religion, for example, is also a demographic. Has he specified that in the past? I don't really know anything about Jon Tron's political views beyond those few tweets.[/QUOTE] Serious answer: They don't and that's everything wrong with democrats in this day and age. Full disclosure, I'm a progressive liberal.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51951726]Serious question: how do you know he's referring to race when he says "demographic suicide" and "founding stock" as opposed to ideology? Religion, for example, is also a demographic. Has he specified that in the past? I don't really know anything about Jon Tron's political views beyond those few tweets.[/QUOTE] I mean he keeps talking about how white people are going to be made a minority and how we have to keep america american like I really don't know what Jon's views are, honestly I think he's just kind of an ignorant slut who parrots whatever he hears, but it all sounds like run of the mill breitbart shit to me

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51950620]Scientific racism was a big thing in the 1800's. It's also a big thing now on Youtube in certain circles.[/QUOTE] I'm confused. So in order not to be a racist from 1800's you have to act like all the studies on the subject from 1990s and 2000s are invalid or nonexistent? Because apparently saying that those studies exist and are valid but at the same time saying that it shouldn't be a front to be a racist and go after black people [I]does [/I]make you a 1800's racist.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51951734]I mean he keeps talking about how white people are going to be made a minority and how we have to keep america american like I really don't know what Jon's views are, honestly I think he's just kind of an ignorant slut who parrots whatever he hears, but it all sounds like run of the mill breitbart shit to me[/QUOTE] The only reference to "white people" I see is him saying that white countries aren't allowed to protect their culture. Where does he talk about actually protecting the white race as opposed to the traditional culture of white nations?

[QUOTE=sgman91;51951741]Where does he talk about actually protecting the white race as opposed to the traditional culture of white nations?[/QUOTE] From assuming that every time he says anything that CAN be interpreted as "race" or "genes" it MUST BE IT.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51951723]-twooter- like idk but when someone starts talking about protecting the founding stock of the country from foreigners I think you could be forgiven for thinking of nazis[/QUOTE] Hm I guess I can understand that... It just seems like we should be trying to help him learn instead of calling him a nazi outright, or comparing him to one. Pretty much what Diet Kane was saying above in the thread.

Jon defending ethonationalist Steve King is telling enough I think, considering Stevey boy has shown again and again he is in fact a white nationalist

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51951732]Serious answer: They don't and that's everything wrong with democrats in this day and age. Full disclosure, I'm a progressive liberal.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=1/4 Life;51951732]Serious answer: They don't and that's everything wrong with democrats in this day and age. Full disclosure, I'm a progressive liberal.[/QUOTE] Don't think that making an incorrect assumption is limited to any political party, it's something every human does. Does 'People assuming the Quebec shooter was a Muslim, justifying the travel bans' ring any bells?

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51951778]Don't think that making an incorrect assumption is limited to any political party, it's something every human does. Does 'People assuming the Quebec shooter was a Muslim, justifying the travel bans' ring any bells?[/QUOTE] Of course it does, but that doesn't change my opinion that my fellow liberals screaming racist if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction is damaging the party. It keeps you from having an actual political commentary if you just shame and ignore everyone with different opinions than you.

[QUOTE=KillRay;51951754]Jon defending ethonationalist Steve King is telling enough I think, considering Stevey boy has shown again and again he is in fact a white nationalist[/QUOTE] This type of stuff is why I hate politics through social media. I mean, Jon made one tweet defending one tweet specifically about Islam, and now he's a defender of the entire guy's ideology. He may have never even heard of him before. Instead of actual discourse, we get 140 character zingers and mountains of assumption thrown on top. That goes for Jon using twitter for politics as well.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51951789]This type of stuff is why I hate politics through social media. I mean, Jon made one tweet defending one tweet specifically about Islam, and now he's a defender of the entire guy's ideology. He may have never even heard of him before. Instead of actual discourse, we get 140 character zingers and mountains of assumption thrown on top. That goes for Jon using twitter for politics as well.[/QUOTE] Its almost like he defended him and then also made tweets parroting his ideology huh

[QUOTE=KillRay;51951808]Its almost like he defended him and then also made tweets parroting his ideology huh[/QUOTE] I swear I could copy and paste his post as a reply to yours. You either didn't read what you quoted or you haven't understood why your way of assuming someone's ideology woefully inadequate.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51951812]I swear I could copy and paste his post as a reply to yours. You either didn't read what you quoted or you haven't understood why your way of assuming someone's ideology woefully inadequate.[/QUOTE] I focused on this part [QUOTE]Jon made one tweet defending one tweet specifically about Islam, and now he's a defender of the entire guy's ideology. He may have never even heard of him before[/QUOTE] Cause there was more than one tweet.

[QUOTE=KillRay;51951821]Cause there was more than one tweet.[/QUOTE] Until he tweets himself a novel you have no honest way to determine his ideology without asking him yourself.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51951824]Until he tweets himself a novel you have no honest way to determine his ideology without asking him yourself.[/QUOTE] Hes going to be talking to Destiny soon since they just exchanged skype. I'll be glad to come back to this thread and inform you when he speaks his mind outside of 140 characters, but somehow says the same things, just extended, because Jon has shown himself to be a poor speaker and very uninformed numerous times

jon is on destiny's stream right now talking about how the mexicans are colonizing america and displacing white people, and how the blacks commit all the crime and how you can't blame jim crowe laws for the current state of black america because blacks are criminals all over the world

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51951874]jon is on destiny's stream right now talking about how the mexicans are colonizing america and displacing white people, and how the blacks commit all the crime and how you can't blame jim crowe laws for the current state of black america because blacks are criminals all over the world[/QUOTE] [url]https://clips.twitch.tv/BoredCarelessVelociraptorMikeHogu[/url] I came in and this made me lol He's so obsessed with race. He asked destiny "how he'd feel if whites were the minority" and he's like "who cares everyone around me is an american" and he's just speechless over that answer Yeah listening to Jon talk about mexicans p much convinced me he's pretty racist lol

Destiny keeps asking Jontron "why is it bad that white people become a minority" and he keeps avoiding the question...why can't he answer it?

[url]https://clips.twitch.tv/BelovedClumsyLorisPhilosoraptor[/url] Bonus clips I forgot: (((global elites only want imigration))), calling destiny the deflector, not understanding nature vs nurture You aren't born into having shitty opinions and being raised in america seems to make people different than their immigrant parents hmm [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] He brought up hillary polls to discredit economists. The madman

jon has gone full race realism breitbart white genocide he's just stammering out nationalist propaganda

Jontron just said it was okay for the country to stagnate in order to keep up the racial status quo. Holy shit. What the fuck?! "If they (minorities) assimilated they would enter the gene pool..."

He thinks destiny is trying to trap or confuse him with some ulterior motive Jon doesn't realize he's actually just dumb as fuck [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=1/4 Life;51951824]Until he tweets himself a novel you have no honest way to determine his ideology without asking him yourself.[/QUOTE] Im done posting about the stream now but am I now allowed to judge his idelogy

It seems to me that Jon has like baby's first ideology. He's heard a few things, bought into them, and hasn't done nearly enough personal research and thinking yet. He shouldn't be anywhere near the public with his ideals until he's done so.

Jon is a very horrible speaker, I do understand the idea of what he's trying to get across and do agree to it on a level. But him and Destiny are on two different levels and it's really unfair though it does expose some bad thinking on part of Jontron.