[QUOTE=Vodkavia;36832077]This entire thread, from both sides, has proven that being objective is something that FP collectively fails at. I admit I've failed to do so in the past as well.
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is a cartoon. It's entertainment, not some super deep Odyssey into the depths of the human condition. It's a slice of life show that's not meant to be viewed in an specific order with as little continuity as possible. Plot and character growth, while nice are not to be an expectation in this specific case. Although if you've watched the show from S1 to S2 there is [I]some[/I] character growth, although I wont get into that. Criticizing the show for its plot lines or depth is simply absurd. Its also something that we see in most cartoons from even a decade back, many of your childhood favorites dance around this format.
Secondly, there's nothing unusual about the fandom other than what it was founded upon. A cartoon. It's debatable whether or not that in itself is is unusual since many people on the internet have come to love other cartoons such as Adventure Time or the Regular Show and the Legend of Korra. Nerds, neckbeards and the socially awkward existed long before the show did and will exist after it fades away. Almost everything that has an adult following has its share of shitty OCs, strange porn and illogical shipping. Avatar, Starwars, Star Trek, Ponies, Homestuck and even fucking Mass Effect. I'm looking at you, Talimancers. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
The fetishism within the fandom, which from my own observation as a person who actually enjoys the porn, is a minority. The guys you see in thread simulators and confession tumblrs represent a small sample of individuals who could very well be posting lies and exaggeration for shock value. Facepunch itself is a rainbow of fetishes and sexuality, with people fapping to dragons, airplanes, vore and whatever the hell sobotnik likes. When Howard Stern made this video and then FP starts making circle jerky statements, when people pretend they know everything about and can make judgements about millions of people they've never met, is when the lack of objectivity and intellectual dishonesty here is at its greatest.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, now why couldn't someone say this shit 6 pages back and prevent a shitstorm? FP works like an un-oiled clock with every damn spring sticking out.
[QUOTE=RobbL;36838964]I wouldn't have a problem with grown men being into MLP if they were a really niche group, but it's just EVERYWHERE. Even if adults obsessing over a cartoon designed for young girls wasn't weird, it's still not even very a good or unique show or anything. If aliens came to earth and connected to the internet they'd probably deduce that MLP is the greatest work of art humankind has ever produced seeing how much of the web is filled with pony related bullshit. You're given the impression from the amount of people ranting on about how much they love MLP and how many fan sites there are that's it's better than the work of all the great literary classics, the masters of classsical music, and the world's greatest scientists and philosophers, ect. It's a generic lowbrow animated tv show for kids broadcast in a few western countries. Why is it so popular? Why are people so fanatically in love with it? Why can't you find a single website without pony-related content? Why do people treat it like some revolutionary polito-philosophical international movement with it's own traditions and dogma? I don't know. Kill me.
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You'd have to be terribly naive though to reject the fact that there's a strong correlation between weird people and weird fetishes. And the general consensus among psychologists is fetishes are caused by emotional problems.[/QUOTE]
I find it hilarious that Vodklavia can type out this incredibly well thought out criticism, and then on the next page someone makes a post that fits all of the complaints.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;36841192]I find it hilarious that Vodklavia can type out this incredibly well thought out criticism, and then on the next page someone makes a post that fits all of the complaints.[/QUOTE]
Elaborate?
[QUOTE=ragin cajun;36835333]I love how you're the most obsessive person on FP when it comes to ponies.
I have not seen a single pony thread without you going on about how much you despise bronies/ponies.
Hell sometimes you derail completely unrelated threads about it[/QUOTE]
It's because he [del]loves[/del] hates ponies so much, obviously. Since it's the [del]best[/del] worst thing ever, he's gotta tell everyone. It's his duty to enlighten people on how [del]amazing[/del] horrible the show is!
[QUOTE=Gareth;36838160]i cant grasp how people can get sexually attracted to the ponies, watching the show is already pretty weird but fantasizing about sticking your dick in a pony? what the fuck? its even more disgusting how people try to defend it by saying it's not weird when it definitely is. It's pretty much the same as having a teletubby fetish or something.[/QUOTE]
Explaining fetishes to people who don't have those fetishes is one of the hardest things you can do.
[QUOTE=Gareth;36838160]i cant grasp how people can get sexually attracted to the ponies, watching the show is already pretty weird but fantasizing about sticking your dick in a pony? what the fuck? its even more disgusting how people try to defend it by saying it's not weird when it definitely is. It's pretty much the same as having a teletubby fetish or something.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't give less of a shit about what other people get off to so long as they acknowledge that I don't give a shit. You could masturbate to anthro shitting dick nipple inflation and I'd be perfectly fine knowing that as long as you don't try to pass off the fetish as anything but a fetish.
That being said, cloppers (especially those from hugboxing communities like r/clopclop) are some of the most annoying people that I've ever had to deal with on the internet. Just look at this shit:
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So apparently rule 34 of cartoon ponies isn't smut, it's character development. UM NO, IT'S FUCKING NOT. IT'S PORN YOU STUPID ASSHOLE. QUIT TRYING TO FORCE YOUR FETISH UPON EVERYONE AND THEN PASS IT OFF AS IF IT'S NOT A FETISH.
Howard stern is always ripping on things he knows nothing about. Anyone remember when he imterviewed kids at a gaming tournament and told them to get a real hobby and called them all wothless.
Im just going to say this: I don't care if you are a brony, just don't rub it in my face or convince me to like the show.
Howard Stern has always been a massive dick, I hate that he's so famous.
There was another thread with some pony discussion going on and I was about to make a reply to someone but it got closed, so i'll post it here instead
[quote]I never understood the obsession with people believing that just because you're older means you can't enjoy childish things. Why does being a "man" mean you can't enjoy a show designed for little girls or other cartoons? Both masculine and feminine.
Have we really come to a point in our advanced life that we still let social "norms" dictate the way we live? Whatever happened to let people live the way they want to? Everyone is unique? Be yourself? Express yourself? But no, someone does something outside the social norm for men and suddenly shit hits the fan because... I don't even know? It attacks other men's insecurities? I just don't get it.[/quote]
I didn't say that. What's weird is grown adults obsessing (in that they treat it waaay too seriously) over stuff designed for 6 year olds, not just enjoying watching a kid's cartoon with their children/niece/nephew every now and again (I am guilty of that). Also, a lot of things that you might deem 'childish' have a more mature dimension (take some Pixar films for example) that adults can relate to. Many adults enjoy stuff designed for kids but in a way that's completely normal- it is or reminds them of stuff they watched or played with when they were younger, nostalgia basically. Everyone does that. However, the people who enjoyed playing with and watching the original MLP from the 80s are a totally different group to these weirdos who obsess over FiM. Don't tell me you wouldn't think it was strange if some 28 year old guy started buying loads of toys designed for little girls or started obsessing over Peppa Pig. I've watched Peppa Pig with my niece and actually vaguely enjoyed some of it, but unlike bronies I don't record every single episode and buy every dvd, draw countless fan art, start up a fan site, introduce catchphrases from the show into everyday conversations, tell everyone about how awesome it is, and act like i'm a member of some sort of cult. Enjoying childish things is normal, but bronies take it too far
[QUOTE=Priori;36849060]Howard Stern has always been a massive dick, I hate that he's so famous.[/QUOTE]
See it from that perspective:
Maybe he is so famous BECAUSE he is an asshole.
[QUOTE=RobbL;36854716]There was another thread with some pony discussion going on and I was about to make a reply to someone but it got closed, so i'll post it here instead
I didn't say that. What's weird is grown adults obsessing (in that they treat it waaay too seriously) over stuff designed for 6 year olds, not just enjoying watching a kid's cartoon with their children/niece/nephew every now and again (I am guilty of that). Also, a lot of things that you might deem 'childish' have a more mature dimension (take some Pixar films for example) that adults can relate to. Many adults enjoy stuff designed for kids but in a way that's completely normal- it is or reminds them of stuff they watched or played with when they were younger, nostalgia basically. Everyone does that. However, the people who enjoyed playing with and watching the original MLP from the 80s are a totally different group to these weirdos who obsess over FiM. Don't tell me you wouldn't think it was strange if some 28 year old guy started buying loads of toys designed for little girls or started obsessing over Peppa Pig. I've watched Peppa Pig with my niece and actually vaguely enjoyed some of it, but unlike bronies I don't record every single episode and buy every dvd, draw countless fan art, start up a fan site, introduce catchphrases from the show into everyday conversations, tell everyone about how awesome it is, and act like i'm a member of some sort of cult. Enjoying childish things is normal, but bronies take it too far[/QUOTE]
Don't a majority of people do the same thing with gaming too? Make fanart, create websites (such as the forum we're on right now), buy sequels, quote from them (the infamous: "Arrow to the knee"), and recommending how awesome that game was. Yeah, videogames are intended to be targeted at a variety of people instead of a limited audience, but both aren't "normal" things that adults or teenagers should be doing.
The reason why people don't follow some social norms is because its boring to follow. :v:
I think one way for me to know that I and a person would never have a meaningful relationship in any way, shape, or form is they were to say they were a brony.
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Maybe he's so famous becuase he's fucking awesome at what he does, and he's hilarious.
Watch his movie or read his book and maybe you'll get a better understanding. I like him because he knows what he's talking about, for the most part, is sensible and respectable. He's confident and bold, and of course, very daring.
Yeah, he is an asshole. He's not going to be modest; he's going all out, and he doesn't give two fucks what you or anyone else thinks. Because most of the time, he's right. Rate what you wan't, but that's the truth.
[QUOTE=Nerevar982;36855703]Diaper Pony picture[/QUOTE]
I was just about to dine.
now i am not hungry anymore.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36855720]Maybe he's so famous becuase he's fucking awesome at what he does, and he's hilarious.
Watch his movie or read his book and maybe you'll get a better understanding. I like him because he knows what he's talking about, for the most part, is sensible and respectable. He's confident and bold, and of course, very daring.
Yeah, he is an asshole. He's not going to be modest; he's going all out, and he doesn't give two fucks what you or anyone else thinks. Because most of the time, he's right. Rate what you wan't, but that's the truth.[/QUOTE]
Hilarious? Calling people worthless isn't very funny, in my opinion.
Knows what he's talking about...ok, that's why BroNYCon took place in "some back woods in Pennsylvania", and also why the generic MLP theme was played in response to these people. Sensible and respectful...that's why he called all Comic Con goers a bunch of geeks, and generally insulted them too.
Confident and bold? Yeah he's real confident, talking shit about everyone and their dog on a radio show. Most of the time he's right, hahahaha. This fucking video alone proves how little he knows about this shit. He is a shock jock, who basically pisses people off just to rouse attention and listeners.
Basically he profits from not knowing fucking anything about what he reports on, and generally insulting people. Not the best human being in the world, and if you respect him, I feel bad for you.
Howard Stern
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[QUOTE=DTkach;36856773]Hilarious? Calling people worthless isn't very funny, in my opinion.
Knows what he's talking about...ok, that's why BroNYCon took place in "some back woods in Pennsylvania", and also why the generic MLP theme was played in response to these people. Sensible and respectful...that's why he called all Comic Con goers a bunch of geeks, and generally insulted them too.
Confident and bold? Yeah he's real confident, talking shit about everyone and their dog on a radio show. Most of the time he's right, hahahaha. This fucking video alone proves how little he knows about this shit. He is a shock jock, who basically pisses people off just to rouse attention and listeners.
Basically he profits from not knowing fucking anything about what he reports on, and generally insulting people. Not the best human being in the world, and if you respect him, I feel bad for you.[/QUOTE]
With this post I can tell you don't know much about the man other than what's in this video and what other's have posted in this thread.
Also, your first line made me laugh, considering half the golds and some blues on this board call others worthless all the time when they make a petty mistake.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36857164]Also, your first line made me laugh, considering half the golds and some blues on this board call others worthless all the time when they make a petty mistake.[/QUOTE]
I actually have a huge problem with that, though.
I'm sorry if I'm being overly sensitive and dramatic about this, but half the time I read those kind of posts, they get me fucking frustrated/depressed, especially if they're just bashing someone over some trivial bullshit that no one should go apeshit about.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36857164]With this post I can tell you don't know much about the man other than what's in this video and what other's have posted in this thread.
Also, your first line made me laugh, considering half the golds and some blues on this board call others worthless all the time when they make a petty mistake.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but that's just individuals mocking individuals. Stern commentated over footage of weirdos they recorded at Bronycon, claiming that all bronies are like this. Entirely untrue.
Have you seen Ray Comfort's videos, where he goes out and shows a dozen retards that don't know what they're saying about abortion? He probably recorded at least two dozen more, but cut them out so his video would showcase his point a lot better.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36857164]With this post I can tell you don't know much about the man other than what's in this video and what other's have posted in this thread.
Also, your first line made me laugh, considering half the golds and some blues on this board call others worthless all the time when they make a petty mistake.[/QUOTE]
Judging from this video, the second part, and what people have been saying in the thread, it seems like a completely accurate analysis. He's a prick who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He is aware of this, and doesn't care, because causing shit storms is how he gets people to pay attention to his radio show.
And yes, the GMF in particular could not exist without something or someone to feel superior to. People like that should fuck off and die, in my honest opinion.
Sorry to burst your bubble but he is, in fact, right about a lot of things. Try learning a bit about him.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36859461]Sorry to burst your bubble but he is, in fact, right about a lot of things. Try learning a bit about him.[/QUOTE]
How about instead of vaguely alluding to the things you agree with you list a few examples?
[QUOTE=redBadger;36859461]Sorry to burst your bubble but he is, in fact, right about a lot of things. Try learning a bit about him.[/QUOTE]
Going to need some sources on that. The OP's video proves he doesn't know shit about what he's reporting on. Now you need to produce something that says otherwise.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36859461]Sorry to burst your bubble but he is, in fact, right about a lot of things. Try learning a bit about him.[/QUOTE]
"... Just like the losers at Comicon"
This is a fact, right? Definitely is.
I'm a brony and I still found this video entertaining. Though most of us DON'T do any of that, I won't deny that several do.
oh, and those people who take it to the fandom level are.. ugh.
I never understood why people are bothered by the interests of other people. Is it that your tv remote is stuck under the couch when MLP comes on? Are there random gangs of bronies who walk the street and harass you daily that I'm just unaware about? As far as I see it. If you don't like it then don't watch it.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;36860164]I'm a brony and I still found this video entertaining. Though most of us DON'T do any of that, I won't deny that several do.
oh, and those people who take it to the fandom level are.. ugh.[/QUOTE]
I know I'm nit picking at this point but if you start a post with "I'm a brony and" or "As a brony" you should *probably* rethink posting it.
I know it clarifies your stance on things but it has a tendency of making the "SHOVING IT IN OUR FACES" people go fucking apeshit. State your opinion as your opinion, it really doesn't matter if you are a brony or not.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;36860164]I'm a brony and I still found this video entertaining. Though most of us DON'T do any of that, I won't deny that several do.
oh, and those people who take it to the fandom level are.. ugh.[/QUOTE]
Ugh, why do people call themselves bronies? It's a cartoon, not a politcal movement or religion. That's what people hate about the fandom- the whole cult-like, "ooh look how awesome and important my show is" thing. Yeah, people have called themselves trekkies, but semi-ironically. Also Star Trek is much deeper, has a much wider target audience, and has been around way longer than FiM, and it's not exactly a show for little girls either (boys and men are generally into themes of sci-fi, adventure and hero type stuff, but the same can't really be said about worlds filled with rainbows and magical ponies) so the trekkie phenomonen completely made sense and being part of it just meant you were a bit of a geek. Every time someone criticises the FiM fandom for being annoyingly fanatic, widespread, weird and preachy, the bronies counter by mentioning other shows and their fandoms, but they're not the same.
[QUOTE=RobbL;36860818]Ugh, why do people call themselves bronies? It's a cartoon, not a politcal movement or religion. That's what people hate about the fandom- the whole cult-like, "ooh look how awesome and important my show is" thing. Yeah, people have called themselves trekkies, but semi-ironically. Also Star Trek is much deeper, has a much wider target audience, and has been around way longer than FiM, and it's not exactly a show for little girls either (boys and men are generally into themes of sci-fi, adventure and hero type stuff, but the same can't really be said about worlds filled with rainbows and magical ponies) so the trekkie phenomonen completely made sense and being part of it just meant you were a bit of a geek. Every time someone criticises the FiM fandom for being annoyingly fanatic, widespread, weird and preachy, the bronies counter by mentioning other shows and their fandoms, but they're not the same.[/QUOTE]
The same reason people call themselves furries but furries have been around long enough no one gives a shit anymore.
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