Music Chat Thread V. The Music Section is Dead (Long Live the Music Section) - General

i have a direct IV drip into my ears

[QUOTE=Winner;49131916]musical asceticism y/n[/QUOTE] I have to with the Beatles. I binge so hard for 2 months, then cut back for 2 months. It's a cycle. Also, earlier this month my buddy was like "Hey I know these guys that wanna play a house show, it'll probs be like 20-30 people tops." So we were like "yeah sure why not," expecting some small turnout. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZylB89bQvHc[/media] This is part of the show. Skip to 5:13 for some mosh action

Dr. Dre's latest album has probably turned into one of my favourite 2015 releases tbh. It's not a perfect 10/10 but it has some really solid songs. It's all i ever wanted.

still haven't heard the new dre and I'm not ready for it yet :-[ but in other news, today I was caring for this chinese man in hospital and it was such a goddamn shame because he was in hospital while his wife was a patient in the same hospital only a few floors above. and then his family told me his wife had just passed away and they wanted my advice on how they should break it to him. :'( All day I tried to speak chinese to get through to this man and now I've hit such a personal turmoil with the situation it hurts inside. It's just an awful day all round and I can't help him in any way other than to ask him how much pain he is in by pointing at a chinese sign. :<

Any Tim Hecker fans in here? A collection of random thoughts on the album [i]Virgins[/i] below. Forgive my lack of a quality composition, I generally see this as a stream of consciousness to further my own understanding of the album as well as spread my perceived ideas. Throughout this text, I vaguely go through the album chronologically. I do not generally share my thoughts on albums in great detail and will be the first one to admit that my analysis should only be taken with a grain of salt. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Philosophy[/b] Let me first state my general philosophy regarding music as an art medium and aesthetics in general. I find aesthetics to be inherently subjective in their quality. Let me also add that the "sublime" nature of Art in my opinion, is a psychological illusion; a psychology that stems from our want to convey concepts that transcend language and are ineffable by nature. This should not be mistaken for something inherently negative, it simply is. With this outlook in mind, I sometimes find it very difficult to connect to pieces of art. Fortunately, I am discovering that whether this phenomenon is an illusion or not, I still [i]feel[/i] something. I am subject to an emotional state I find quite pleasing. I'm sure we can debate this philosophy, feel free to do so, but for now I would like to focus on the album. [b]Virgins[/b] I have been absolutely blown away by the magnitude and scope of Virgins. His more "direct' descent into an alternative form of ambient was quite refreshing after Ravedeath, 1972. Combining his familiar form of ambient and electronic, with a form of modern classical has certainly proved to be quite the concoction. Few artists have been able to convey a sense of existential-awareness to me, but Tim Hecker is an artist that has always been "aware" in a similar framework I would describe my own aesthetic philosophy as. It hasn't been until more recently that I have appreciated this album to a fuller degree. "Prism" places the listener in a void. A void without character, a place in which one cannot apply attributes as much as the mind would like to. After some time however, an attribute is subscribed to this void. An attribute I can only describe as a sort of distance. Within the infinite expanse, an all encompassing abstraction approaches. An abstraction, that at first glance, is void of emotional attributes. An abstraction that feels all too nihilistic, all too void of humanity. The emotions of the listener himself are all that remain. Without any piece of tangibility to ground oneself, the listener takes a journey through that abstraction, and is introduced to Virgins. "Virginal I" does a very good job at introducing the listener to Hecker's use of loops and gradual fade-ins of both electronic and traditional instrumentation. Tension is built throughout the piece, then later descends into a reflection going at a crawling speed. The piano minimalism and looping really captures the infinitely recursive "existentially horror" of certain elements of the human experience for me, a phenomenon I don't find too many albums exploring; the eventually "breaking away" on tracks like "Virginal II" really are something nothing short of sublime. I've recently been able to draw parallels to this abstraction to my own life, as I have recently been engulfed with an overwhelming sense of nihilism; seeing this cycle break away in this track is quite refreshing and thought provoking. Unfortunately, this is with respective to a single track, and not the album itself. I have yet to expand on that idea and compare it to the album as a whole. I can say that the overarching aesthetic seems to be consistent however. Our third track "Radiance" introduces a shining synth, one I feel is overshadowed by a later track. I also find it's placement to be odd, putting a sour taste in my mouth (much like the organizational quality of this post). I will add that it provides a taste of the variety on this LP and at the very least, resembles a certain contemplation found on virtually every other track on the album. The resurrection of Tim Hecker's glitch roots on this album are something to note as well. Hecker uses glitch noises similar to sounds off of Fennesz's "Endless Summer" with a similar context. That is, what I perceive (vaguely) as the forced thoughts of the mind. More notably, one reviewer described the glitches on the track "Live Room" as an entity that is unwillingly, but logically and coherently fused together with the melodies of a piano, a more coherent train of thought. There is something quite dark about this perpetuating discomfort, something I found quite relate-able in an emotional sense. "Live Room Out" resolves this discomfort, holding the previous track in a new light. A journey, and it's destination. Upon further investigation, I've come to the conclusion that the range of the album is far broader than I had previously thought months ago. I found it quite easy to connect to the fleeting moments of nostalgia in Black Refraction (a climax that ultimately, feels juxtaposed within the confines of mountainous synths and recursive piano loops), but it wasn't until more recently have I discovered the bliss of "Amps, Drugs, Harmonium (and it's sister track, 'Incense at Abu Gharib')". "Incense at Abu Gharib" bridges the gap between the fleeting memory of Black Refraction and the return to a present moment; one involving acceptance, [i]harmonium[/i] if you will. A finite track, yet looped in such a way to feel as if it is in fact endless. To expand a bit more on black refraction, I find that the track itself had very easily clicked with me within a few listens. High in accessibility, I find Black Refraction to be a track relate-able to all, but to be experienced by one. A memory in the expanse of consciousness, a memory perpetuated and morphed simply by reflection of it's own nature. "Stigmata I" seeks to perpetuate this existential anxiety underlying the album, yet I find it's placement ultimately weakens it. The tension should feel great here, yet we find that because it comes so abruptly after "Amps, Drugs, Harmonium" it falls short on creating the atmosphere it so desires. I will say that "Stigmata II" is a refreshing track filled with glitch minimalism with the undertones first presented in "Stigmata I". These glitch noises are just barely resemble a thought, yet we have these undertones to remind us that that's what it is indeed. A thought so weak and far removed, and yet it is still of the utmost significance. "Stab Variation" is bridged in the last remaining seconds of "Stigmata II", foreshadowing what is ahead. Unfortunately, I cannot offer too much of an analysis as of right now. I will say that at first glance, it appears to be a "logical" conclusion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b] Abu Gharib [/b] To expand on some ideas I have recently read online, many have directly identified the events of the Abu Ghraib (refer to song title) Torture Crisis in 2003 ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse[/url]). The artwork itself seems to be a direct manifestation (along with one of the track titles) of this famous picture: [img_thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/AbuGhraibAbuse-standing-on-box.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cu-ihs4BkAs/maxresdefault.jpg[/img_thumb] Unfortunately, I can't make any clear connections due to the fact I'm ignorant of the nature of this crisis. If anybody can clue me in on the exact nature of the crisis, I would be very thankful. Here is the first track, I hope that perhaps you will take the time to give Virgins a listen (hopefully multiple to further analyze what, in my opinion, is a work of musical genius): [b]Prism[/b] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RadMml2yEM[/media] *Might be periodically updated as I analyze more.

Tim Hecker is pretty dope but I think this isn't really the place for an analysis [editline]18th November 2015[/editline] I think his best is Haunt Me Haunt Me Do It Again

i couldnt read anything past the first sentence i lost focus

i love tim hecker so much but seeing him live was so weird i literally just paid £13 to stand in a pitch black room on a boat and listen to complete noise for an hour solid

jelly as fuck aren't his live shows pretty intimate and small?

I appreciate noise and everything but damn I just cannot get into tim hecker all his music sounds like an intro that should be 30 seconds or less kind of the same way I feel about that long ass post tbh

[QUOTE=butre;49144870]I appreciate noise and everything but damn I just cannot get into tim hecker all his music sounds like an intro that should be 30 seconds or less kind of the same way I feel about that long ass post tbh[/QUOTE] the song above sounds to me like a cinema movie should be starting but isn't

[QUOTE=exhale77;49141668]Any Tim Hecker fans in here? "Long ass post" [/QUOTE] Moved to this location: [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/LetsTalkMusic/comments/3tcktk/on_virgins_an_album_by_tim_hecker/[/url] Please stop by and leave a comment if you would like to discuss! [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cheetahben;49144101]Tim Hecker is pretty dope but I think this isn't really the place for an analysis [editline]18th November 2015[/editline] I think his best is Haunt Me Haunt Me Do It Again[/QUOTE] Can you direct me to the appropriate location on Facepunch (assuming we have one)?

[QUOTE=exhale77;49146637] Can you direct me to the appropriate location on Facepunch (assuming we have one)?[/QUOTE] r.i.p. music section :'(

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyOKuGCd10[/media] rad

What do you guys think of Haken? Specifically The Mountain

[QUOTE=shadowdude14;49150236]What do you guys think of Haken? Specifically The Mountain[/QUOTE] the mountain's pretty good, basically dream theater but with calmer parts and overall more depth instead of just instrument masturbation and considering how DT's latest studio album was, it's a good thing we're getting a better DT than DT is nowadays...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nCqRmx3Dnw[/media]

oh boy [t]http://puu.sh/lsp6c/8eaeeecb23.png[/t] this is going to take a while, isn't it

guys im not sure if it were mentioned but pHIL ColLins Is BACK! i'm gonna be so front row it's not even funny [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aJ2Vh_e2dQ[/media]

What do you guys think of the new David Bowie song? [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kszLwBaC4Sw[/media] Album ships in January, I can't wait.

pretty cool, i'm glad he's still experimenting

i had to pack a delivery full of world music and roger waters at work today akayz was that you stop bothering me at work hun

tattoo parlor in front of my house is playing some weird ass experimental live music its been nothing but a bass, a little bit of drumming every 5 mins and lots of screaming [editline]22nd November 2015[/editline] oh ok the other instruments finally joined in

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49166821]tattoo parlor in front of my house is playing some weird ass experimental live music its been nothing but a bass, a little bit of drumming every 5 mins and lots of screaming [editline]22nd November 2015[/editline] oh ok the other instruments finally joined in[/QUOTE] you record any of it?

solstafir shared noni's band on their FB page. novel moment.

I'm curious if anyone has experience using Line 6's Pod Farm software? The guitar tones I'm making with the program have come a long way, but they still sound awful and I know you can at least get internet video quality out of this thing. Someone halp.

my court date from October's party keeps getting pushed back. maybe it'll keep going until I die

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgFksOL5lI[/media] this is 4 strangers getting on stage playing 4 instruments that aren't theirs. the guy on the telecaster is John, my friend's brother, the guy on the drums is some dude from a shoegaze band that played earlier, the guy on the strat is from the house band which sucks because the dynamics are off, and the guy on bass is some dude none of us have ever met [editline]24th November 2015[/editline] none of them had ever played this song, John told the bass player the chords and played the riff once for the drummer, and the guy on the strat joined about a minute in they've got some serious compatibility for 4 strangers

the andalusian cadence is a good chord progression for jamming with strangers

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci03-IWDQBg[/media] it's that time of year again