Music Chat Thread V. The Music Section is Dead (Long Live the Music Section)

[buttsexv3]

[QUOTE=Calkkuna;47184728]Then tell me what kind of other bands are like them. I'm still searching for same kind of happy rock.[/QUOTE]

thee michelle gun elephant, the collectors, the predators, go!go!7188, detroit7, noodles, the birthday, dohatsuen

some of those bands sound almost exactly like the pillows some of them have similar musical structure and songwriting style but are stylistically a bit different.

[erfinjerfin]

i saw parliament-funkadelic last night, it was a good time

[Caarle..]

[QUOTE=hydrated;47184918]thee michelle gun elephant, the collectors, the predators, go!go!7188, detroit7, noodles, the birthday, dohatsuen

some of those bands sound almost exactly like the pillows some of them have similar musical structure and songwriting style but are stylistically a bit different.[/QUOTE]

To be honest The Predators is apparently founded by a The Pillows member. And most of these bands have very distinct sounds. I'd call this a genre of its own rather than just calling The Pillows generic.

[editline]21st February 2015[/editline]

But thanks for the list, Thee Michelle Gun Elephant is pretty damn rad.

[editline]21st February 2015[/editline]

And many of those are also bands that started in the 00's and Pillows were doing their thing in the early 90's.

[Pops]

[QUOTE=hydrated;47183781]who uses itunes in 2015[/QUOTE]

it does what i need it to do, play music.

/function

[matt000024]

ew itunes

[Franke_R!?]

[QUOTE=hydrated;47183781]who uses itunes in 2015[/QUOTE]

ancient aliens

[matt000024]

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;47186481]ancient aliens[/QUOTE]

real ghosts

[NuGmanV3]

[QUOTE=matt000024;47187508]real ghosts[/QUOTE]

Duck hunters

[Castle]

my friend who is very into progressive metal and i talked music for a few hours and i showed him dads and american football and we decided emo and math rock are like the indie/alternative sounding progressive metal/rock kinda.
He showed me Between The Buried and Me's album the Parallax 2 and I'm a really not a fan of death metal but this album is pretty awesome.

I just love the noodling guitars that emo has

[Eluveitie]

tbh how can someone be into progressive metal, there's like 2 good bands

[Hakita]

[QUOTE=Eluveitie;47187713]tbh how can someone be into progressive metal, there's like 2 good bands[/QUOTE]
nah

[AK'z]

d'angelo is a fucking god on stage, that is all.

and i had chow mein.

[Kite_shugo]

if anyone likes Feed Me and knows he's been on a hiatus from his DnB production for quite a while; He just released a debut Spor album the other day and it's some amazing stuff.

It's called Caligo

also paywhatyouwant/free since he distributed it through bittorrent

[url]https://bundles.bittorrent.com/bundles/spor[/url]

[media]http://soundcloud.com/spor/sets/caligo[/media]

[url]http://soundcloud.com/spor/sets/caligo[/url]

[matt000024]

[QUOTE=Castle;47187612]my friend who is very into progressive metal and i talked music for a few hours and i showed him dads and american football and we decided emo and math rock are like the indie/alternative sounding progressive metal/rock kinda.
He showed me Between The Buried and Me's album the Parallax 2 and I'm a really not a fan of death metal but this album is pretty awesome.

I just love the noodling guitars that emo has[/QUOTE]

emo are the progressive indie what?

[.Venom]

A band I never got into until only recently is The Guess Who. They fucking rock, and as a Canadian I felt guilty not having listened to them before. I may actually see Burton Cummings perform in March

[editline]22nd February 2015[/editline]

[video=youtube;Gmx1SYcsXtg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmx1SYcsXtg[/video]
This, basically

[Njittie]

[QUOTE=matt000024;47188578]emo are the progressive indie what?[/QUOTE]

rites of spring were very progressive didnt u kno

[isak]

oh no genre arguments

"thats not prog metal thats black speed electro fusion metal guys"

i have 4 genres:

electronic (bassnectar, avicii, rustie, EDM stuff and other experimental stuff like balam acab)
indie (alternative, folk, some pop, etc. coldplay, shakey graves, sylvan esso, chvrches, etc)
rap & hip-hop (self-explanatory, beat tapes are labeled electronic though)
rock (from classic rock to arctic monkeys to black keys, basically heavier indie music)

i have a couple classical albums and jazz albums as well, but it's so fucking complicated in rock and indie and stuff, not to mention the 5-million subgenres for electronic. easier to just label them something vaguely related to their overall genre rather than trying to whittle stuff down to a subgenre.

[Caarle..]

Yes. Indie. Great. That is a very descriptive genre that really tells you what kind of music it is.

[editline]23rd February 2015[/editline]

Have I ever talked here about how much I fucking hate when people label things as "indie" like its a genre?

[Sundowner]

[QUOTE=.Isak.;47196601]oh no genre arguments

"thats not prog metal thats black speed electro fusion metal guys"

i have 4 genres:

electronic (bassnectar, avicii, rustie, EDM stuff and other experimental stuff like balam acab)
indie (alternative, folk, some pop, etc. coldplay, shakey graves, sylvan esso, chvrches, etc)
rap & hip-hop (self-explanatory, beat tapes are labeled electronic though)
rock (from classic rock to arctic monkeys to black keys, basically heavier indie music)

i have a couple classical albums and jazz albums as well, but it's so fucking complicated in rock and indie and stuff, not to mention the 5-million subgenres for electronic. easier to just label them something vaguely related to their overall genre rather than trying to whittle stuff down to a subgenre.[/QUOTE]

well I mean, there's a difference between Avicii and Burial. What's wrong with pointing out the differences? Jungle is very different from House and Garage, that's why they have subgenres

Also Coldplay have never been an Indie group in their entire lives

[isak]

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;47196628]well I mean, there's a difference between Avicii and Burial. What's wrong with pointing out the differences? Jungle is very different from House and Garage, that's why they have subgenres

Also Coldplay have never been an Indie group in their entire lives[/QUOTE]

Because it's a pain in the ass to spend time trying to decide what genre something is

I'll use Silversun Pickups as an example since I'm listening to them right now. Are they alt-rock, indie rock, shoegaze, or dream pop? Should I put the genre as "Alt-Rock/Indie Rock/Shoegaze/Dream Pop" in my ID3 tags, so that the only band in that selection is Silversun Pickups?

I just like to have huge mega-genres to be able to put on a genre and listen to it. I don't have more than like 4 shoegaze bands, so I don't really want to put my "shoegaze" genre on to listen to those same few albums over and over. "Indie" could be substituted for "alternative" easily.

I'm really just spoiled from listening to so much hip-hop - everything is just rap/hip-hop. Sure, you could dig down and separate it into trap and conscious and east-coast/west-coast, gangster, indie, etc, but nobody really does that so it's all very clearly bordered as rap and hip-hop and nothing else. Rock and alternative and stuff have so many bands that fuse genres that it's impossible to pick a single sub-genre for each of them.

I use ambient for ambient music and post-rock for post-rock, because they're both more clearly-defined than other genres, but the entire clusterfuck that is electronic and rock just isn't worth navigating through to me. Most artists have at least 4-5 different genres listed on wikipedia or allmusic or other sites - it's easier to just throw the overall genre on top of it all.

[Hakita]

nah man genres are too much of a pain in the ass so the only genre i use is "music" 8)

[Sundowner]

[QUOTE=.Isak.;47196667]Because it's a pain in the ass to spend time trying to decide what genre something is

I'll use Silversun Pickups as an example since I'm listening to them right now. Are they alt-rock, indie rock, shoegaze, or dream pop? Should I put the genre as "Alt-Rock/Indie Rock/Shoegaze/Dream Pop" in my ID3 tags, so that the only band in that selection is Silversun Pickups?

I just like to have huge mega-genres to be able to put on a genre and listen to it. I don't have more than like 4 shoegaze bands, so I don't really want to put my "shoegaze" genre on to listen to those same few albums over and over. "Indie" could be substituted for "alternative" easily.

I'm really just spoiled from listening to so much hip-hop - everything is just rap/hip-hop. Sure, you could dig down and separate it into trap and conscious and east-coast/west-coast, gangster, indie, etc, but nobody really does that so it's all very clearly bordered as rap and hip-hop and nothing else. Rock and alternative and stuff have so many bands that fuse genres that it's impossible to pick a single sub-genre for each of them.

I use ambient for ambient music and post-rock for post-rock, because they're both more clearly-defined than other genres, but the entire clusterfuck that is electronic and rock just isn't worth navigating through to me. Most artists have at least 4-5 different genres listed on wikipedia or allmusic or other sites - it's easier to just throw the overall genre on top of it all.[/QUOTE]

there are so many subgenres of hip hop though

like if someone said they were really into three 6 Mafia you wouldn't recommend them Drake

it's like complaining that there are distinctions between futurism and modernism in art. They're fairly similar but to just bluntly group them together ignores the subtleties of the two movements

and if you're talking about black metal Burzum and Deafheaven are completely different which is why Blackgaze is a subgenre

[isak]

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;47196772]there are so many subgenres of hip hop though

like if someone said they were really into three 6 Mafia you wouldn't recommend them Drake

it's like complaining that there are distinctions between futurism and modernism in art. They're fairly similar but to just bluntly group them together ignores the subtleties of the two movements

and if you're talking about black metal Burzum and Deafheaven are completely different which is why Blackgaze is a subgenre[/QUOTE]

the thing is i can't stand when people feel the need to make any variance in style of music a sub-genre.

i recognize that genres exist and that they're useful, but when people start arguing about whether chvrches is electropop or synthpop or whether burial is future garage or dubstep or trip-hop or whatever, I just have to roll my eyes because it's a pointless argument - you're able to recommend similar artists without arguing about whether an artist is a certain genre or not.

sub-genres can be useful - i'm not a fan of thinning down sub-genres to such a specific level that only 3 bands in my library can be defined by them, but I understand why people do that. if I split hip-hop into dirty south and conscious and trap and all this other stuff, I'd have people like GoldLink who don't really fit into any existing genres (electronic hip-hop or something?) and then I'd be making industrial hip-hop for clipping and I'd reach a level where I'm making genre tags for single bands. what's the point at that level, instead of saying "oh yeah I like industrial hip-hop" i could just say "i like clipping."

splitting genre hairs is pointless - if i call something indie and people start going "no that's future experimental shoegaze pop" i'll just roll my eyes because [I]who gives a shit[/I]

[editline]23rd February 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Calkkuna;47196622]Yes. Indie. Great. That is a very descriptive genre that really tells you what kind of music it is.

[editline]23rd February 2015[/editline]

Have I ever talked here about how much I fucking hate when people label things as "indie" like its a genre?[/QUOTE]

it's about as descriptive as saying "rock" or "alt-rock" tbh

"you like rock? no way i'm huge a AC/DC and Rush fan!"

"oh i like red hot chili peppers and tame impala"

[Hakita]

[QUOTE=.Isak.;47197033]it's about as descriptive as saying "rock" or "alt-rock" tbh

"you like rock? no way i'm huge a AC/DC and Rush fan!"

"oh i like red hot chili peppers and tame impala"[/QUOTE]
it's not though, independent music can be any genre, rock can just be, well, rock

[SIRIUS]

Ive never find genres to be useful

[Uzbekistan]

i like every genre except country and rap

[SIRIUS]

[QUOTE=Uzbekistan;47198011]i like every genre except country and rap[/QUOTE]

For me it's country and metal... Anything with the silly screaming

[skynrdfan3]

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47198116]For me it's country and metal... Anything with the silly screaming[/QUOTE]

Gotta agree on the screaming metal. It's a shame because the composition can be REALLY good, only to be ruined by the dumbest vocals.

[Njittie]

did i ever tell y'all i really enjoy noise music

this is honestly becoming one of my fav albums [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEa68SvUovU[/url]

[editline]23rd February 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=skynrdfan3;47198140]Gotta agree on the screaming metal. It's a shame because the composition can be REALLY good, only to be ruined by the dumbest vocals.[/QUOTE]

thank you, skynrdfan3

[Stizzles]

you guys don't even slam