Music Chat Thread V. The Music Section is Dead (Long Live the Music Section) - General

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;47900587]Need help getting a song title. JonTron sings some similar sounding lyrics at 10:19 in this video. [video=youtube;TVYSiQolKps]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYSiQolKps[/video][/QUOTE] that was similar to the vocal melody from cats in the cradle by harry chapin as sung by someone who 's tone deaf

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;47900587]Need help getting a song title. JonTron sings some similar sounding lyrics at 10:19 in this video. [video=youtube;TVYSiQolKps]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYSiQolKps[/video][/QUOTE] For some reason it kinda reminds me of "Take the Long Way Home" by Supertramp.

[QUOTE=Uzbekistan;47899540]Shame that the labels are dicks about it, Spotify had to pay Sony a $4 million advance, Sony apparently gave shit all of that to the artists[/QUOTE] Yeah at least everyone knows Sony are giant cunts though.

[QUOTE=cheetahben;47899293]I don't use Spotify but I like how it's putting money back into the music industry somewhat[/QUOTE] it's not really [editline]7th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Eluveitie;47902560]Yeah at least everyone knows Sony are giant cunts though.[/QUOTE] all 3 majors are (RIP EMI)

I know generally speaking the former music section used to be more focused on less than mainstream artists but i'm gonna ask this question anyway. I recently start listening to fallout boy, and noticed a huge shift in their music from Folie A Duex to Save Rock and Roll and their newest album. If you take the albums for what they are, which is a heavier mainsteamish pop album, they're definitely not too bad, but I personally think fallout boy came back from their little hiatus thing just to sell out personally. I was just wondering what anyone elses thoughts on this are.

[QUOTE=butre;47901136]that was similar to the vocal melody from cats in the cradle by harry chapin as sung by someone who 's tone deaf[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=cardfan212;47901211]For some reason it kinda reminds me of "Take the Long Way Home" by Supertramp.[/QUOTE] It was none of those, but thanks for responding. Might not even have been a real song, I remember it from The Simpsons.

[QUOTE=gerbile4;47905926]I know generally speaking the former music section used to be more focused on less than mainstream artists but i'm gonna ask this question anyway. I recently start listening to fallout boy, and noticed a huge shift in their music from Folie A Duex to Save Rock and Roll and their newest album. If you take the albums for what they are, which is a heavier mainsteamish pop album, they're definitely not too bad, but I personally think fallout boy came back from their little hiatus thing just to sell out personally. I was just wondering what anyone elses thoughts on this are.[/QUOTE] i never listened to anything post save rock and roll i mean i do know the top bangers but that was it so i didn't have much to compare save rock and roll too. save rock and roll is a decent album and i've listened to it quite a bit (except 1 or 2 tracks are just plain awful) but their latest album is just compilation of pop songs. its an awful album as every song tries so hard to be a radio hit banger but if you listen to each song individually in a playlist or something some of them are quite good.

[QUOTE=gerbile4;47905926]I know generally speaking the former music section used to be more focused on less than mainstream artists but i'm gonna ask this question anyway. I recently start listening to fallout boy, and noticed a huge shift in their music from Folie A Duex to Save Rock and Roll and their newest album. If you take the albums for what they are, which is a heavier mainsteamish pop album, they're definitely not too bad, but I personally think fallout boy came back from their little hiatus thing just to sell out personally. I was just wondering what anyone elses thoughts on this are.[/QUOTE] There's nothing wrong with liking mainstream artists, pointless bashing of them is just as bad as endless praise. Some EDM folks like to hardcore hate on Deadmau5, and most people hate on Skrillex, but both are actually pretty damn good at production. I try to approach all music from the same bassline (heh) Which is why even though I like TGM they did a similar thing, first album and single are pretty damn good and had a unique sound but the second album is like super similar to the first and the new 3 single EP is gonna be no different from the previews. Its disappointing seeing an artist who is popular stop playing around and experimenting or even diversifying slightly :(

[QUOTE=Winner;47908862]nah[/QUOTE] Not everything they make is good by any means, but Deadmau5 uses a lot of cool subtle stuff in his music and favors more analog hardware. Strobe, Soma, Right This Second, Raise Your Weapon, are all good examples of the stuff from him I dig and think is fairly well made. Skrillex did receive instruction and teaching from Noisia so he can't be [I]that[/I] bad but he is not something I'm a huge fan of, personally. Dubstep in general not really my thing tbh. Its all opinions though in the end, doesn't bother me if you hate both or think they're shit

I don't agree but I listen to people rubbing shit on microphones what the hell do I know.

[QUOTE=thisispain;47909195]I don't agree but I listen to people rubbing shit on microphones what the hell do I know.[/QUOTE] My point at the very least is I try to approach each musician as having the same merit. And I don't really place more importance on any artists over another- musicians like Daft Punk, Justice, and Deadmau5 are important to me because they were a part of my early intros to edm and I can already see their influence in the few songs I've made as is. I still like finding more obscure stuff, but I'm a picky little shit as well for almost everything except edm and classical. I have no basis for my claims, really. I've only been really listening to music on a deeper level for a few months, and I am in no way qualified enough as an anything to say statements like I said above, on second thought. I'll go back to not posting in artistic threads I'm a shitty musician and listener as is, should stick to engineering and science instead :D

if tickets don't sell out instantly, I'll get to see Failure and Hum share a stage in August. one of my dream lineups

[QUOTE=paindoc;47909361]My point at the very least is I try to approach each musician as having the same merit. And I don't really place more importance on any artists over another- musicians like Daft Punk, Justice, and Deadmau5 are important to me because they were a part of my early intros to edm and I can already see their influence in the few songs I've made as is. I still like finding more obscure stuff, but I'm a picky little shit as well for almost everything except edm and classical. I have no basis for my claims, really. I've only been really listening to music on a deeper level for a few months, and I am in no way qualified enough as an anything to say statements like I said above, on second thought. I'll go back to not posting in artistic threads I'm a shitty musician and listener as is, should stick to engineering and science instead :D[/QUOTE] you're as qualified as anyone else in this thread to make statements like that, opinions are just that after all; opinions, doesn't matter if you're a shitty musician or listener. Even the greatest musicians are going to be biased about their preferences with music in some way, if you can keep a general approach of appreciating the art while still sticking to your own personal tastes then IMO that's just fine I like to think a musician's merit is less about what they produce and more about the effort they individually (or as a group) put in as awhole. if you asked me what I thought of deadmou5's music, i'd tell you that I think he's pretty shit and over-rated but that's just my opinion, it's just not my style of music, still think for what it's worth he has a lot of merit and is a pretty damned talented(or at least, skilled) guy, at least puts in the time and effort to put on a show and maintain a following; that's merit worthy. He definitely has a lot of good ideas from a production standpoint and that in itself is appreciable as well, but I just can't stand to really listen to his tracks. That might change one day, I never used to like system of a down, really disliked their overall sound, but nowadays I love their music skrillex i'm a bit give and take on, I enjoy a lot of the music he puts out, but I dislike the dude himself. to pretend as if either aren't good at production is kinda ignorant though, they do what they do and they do it well, that's why it works on another note porter robinson is gonna be performing in my city next month, Very very very tempted to go see his live show, but money...

[QUOTE=Consciousness;47911341]you're as qualified as anyone else in this thread to make statements like that, opinions are just that after all; opinions, doesn't matter if you're a shitty musician or listener. Even the greatest musicians are going to be biased about their preferences with music in some way, if you can keep a general approach of appreciating the art while still sticking to your own personal tastes then IMO that's just fine I like to think a musician's merit is less about what they produce and more about the effort they individually (or as a group) put in as awhole. if you asked me what I thought of deadmou5's music, i'd tell you that I think he's pretty shit and over-rated but that's just my opinion, it's just not my style of music, still think for what it's worth he has a lot of merit and is a pretty damned talented(or at least, skilled) guy, at least puts in the time and effort to put on a show and maintain a following; that's merit worthy. He definitely has a lot of good ideas from a production standpoint and that in itself is appreciable as well, but I just can't stand to really listen to his tracks. That might change one day, I never used to like system of a down, really disliked their overall sound, but nowadays I love their music skrillex i'm a bit give and take on, I enjoy a lot of the music he puts out, but I dislike the dude himself. to pretend as if either aren't good at production is kinda ignorant though, they do what they do and they do it well, that's why it works on another note porter robinson is gonna be performing in my city next month, Very very very tempted to go see his live show, but money...[/QUOTE] Oh, that would be so worth it. Tchami, Zedd, and Lindsey Stirling are going to be in Seattle for Bumpershoot but tickets are crazy expensive and I don't see a ton of bands or acts I want to see. And its funny, I'm the inverse of your opinion on those two artists haha

[QUOTE=gerbile4;47905926]I know generally speaking the former music section used to be more focused on less than mainstream artists but i'm gonna ask this question anyway. I recently start listening to fallout boy, and noticed a huge shift in their music from Folie A Duex to Save Rock and Roll and their newest album. If you take the albums for what they are, which is a heavier mainsteamish pop album, they're definitely not too bad, but I personally think fallout boy came back from their little hiatus thing just to sell out personally. I was just wondering what anyone elses thoughts on this are.[/QUOTE] huh? they were a pop band since day one. if you like that early stuff just listen to idk any pop punk band on RISE RECORDS or something [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] "good at production" is relevant. they are criminals when it comes to production if you ask me. btw bet none of 'em could studio engineer worth a rats ass

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;47912732]huh? they were a pop band since day one. if you like that early stuff just listen to idk any pop punk band on RISE RECORDS or something [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] "good at production" is relevant. they are criminals when it comes to production if you ask me. btw bet none of 'em could studio engineer worth a rats ass[/QUOTE] Were they part of the loudness wars and shit like that? Hearing Green Day's stuff compressed to what went out to world and what it should have been was informative

[QUOTE=paindoc;47912400]Oh, that would be so worth it. Tchami, Zedd, and Lindsey Stirling are going to be in Seattle for Bumpershoot but tickets are crazy expensive and I don't see a ton of bands or acts I want to see. And its funny, I'm the inverse of your opinion on those two artists haha[/QUOTE] it's not even /that/ expensive, i've paid more to see shows in the past, it's more so that i'm saving money for my first car and I don't have the most consistent income, I have a good deal of savings at the moment but don't want to dip it in case income doesn't happen soon enough, also just exercising self control more or less with what I do have otherwise what's the point in calling it savings. Then I have money for essentials to last a few months, hoping to get the income happening again by the time I run out of money for essentials, otherwise i'm basically 'broke' and can't really afford to spend, but it's extremely tempting to excuse that mindset and just do it and go see him live, I reckon it'd be a great experience worth the small dent in the wallet, but at the same time... tough decisions, might have to go and make some extra cash on the side while I look for work just to go see it, ebay or something idk

[QUOTE=gerbile4;47905926]I know generally speaking the former music section used to be more focused on less than mainstream artists but i'm gonna ask this question anyway. I recently start listening to fallout boy, and noticed a huge shift in their music from Folie A Duex to Save Rock and Roll and their newest album. If you take the albums for what they are, which is a heavier mainsteamish pop album, they're definitely not too bad, but I personally think fallout boy came back from their little hiatus thing just to sell out personally. I was just wondering what anyone elses thoughts on this are.[/QUOTE] musically they are better than they have ever been before, I personally enjoy their new style (they have been like my favourite band for 8 years tho and I enjoy fun pop jams so maybe I'm biased) they're just making the music that they enjoy from what I can gather so who cares if they sold out or not [editline]awd[/editline] if I had a band and I could ''sell out'' doing what I enjoy then I'd totally sell out [editline]awd[/editline] hey rude I am part of the former music section

intro to "Break those bones whose sinews gave it motion" is very nice

So what is everyone's thoughts on the new muse album? I personally think it is there best album since BHAR. The best song on the album IMO is The Handler: [video=youtube;BF1DQr5dKW8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF1DQr5dKW8[/video]

Muse are complete shit

[QUOTE=cheetahben;47913503]Muse are complete shit[/QUOTE] was waiting for this post

[QUOTE=cheetahben;47913503]Muse are complete shit[/QUOTE] Care to give some insight into this comment?

[QUOTE=Mark364;47913467]So what is everyone's thoughts on the new muse album? I personally think it is there best album since BHAR. The best song on the album IMO is The Handler: [video=youtube;BF1DQr5dKW8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF1DQr5dKW8[/video][/QUOTE]I'm not the only one hearing City of Delusion at 0:51 and onwards, am I? I really like the album, I guess the lyrics are a bit edgy at times (had no idea people had such a massive hateboner towards Muse though tbh) but it sounds cool so I'm not complaining

[QUOTE=paindoc;47909005]Not everything they make is good by any means, but Deadmau5 uses a lot of cool subtle stuff in his music and favors more analog hardware. Strobe, Soma, Right This Second, Raise Your Weapon, are all good examples of the stuff from him I dig and think is fairly well made. Skrillex did receive instruction and teaching from Noisia so he can't be [I]that[/I] bad but he is not something I'm a huge fan of, personally. Dubstep in general not really my thing tbh. Its all opinions though in the end, doesn't bother me if you hate both or think they're shit[/QUOTE] Too bad Mau5' has a toxic holier-than-thou attitude and he constantly needs to let people on Twitter now he's better than everyone else

[QUOTE=Flubbman;47913693]I'm not the only one hearing City of Delusion at 0:51 and onwards, am I? I really like the album, I guess the lyrics are a bit edgy at times (had no idea people had such a massive hateboner towards Muse though tbh) but it sounds cool so I'm not complaining[/QUOTE] Yeah the lyrics could be better, especially in psycho. I also seem to be the only person that liked the 2nd law. Not as much as OOS and Absolution but it was still pretty solid.

[QUOTE=Mark364;47913594]Care to give some insight into this comment?[/QUOTE] They are worse than shit.

[QUOTE=Mark364;47913594]Care to give some insight into this comment?[/QUOTE] Musical equivalent of a guy fawkes mask

Might be going to see Jurassic 5. Psyched either way but its a maybe at the moment.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;47912732]huh? they were a pop band since day one. if you like that early stuff just listen to idk any pop punk band on RISE RECORDS or something [/QUOTE] I really have only listened extensively to Cork Tree, Infinity and Folie. I didn't find anything superb about their earlier stuff, but I do like that generic pop punk "rise records" bullshit, but I do admit most of them are just copying the biggest name in the genre currently (IE most pop-punk bands seems to try to be trying to copy The Story So Far) Personally I think there are less than impressive tracks on all three of those mentioned albums, but definately some real winners, (Like American Sweethearts, All the Gin Bars, Carple Tunnel of Love, ect), but definitely some tracks that aren't bad, but just less impressive than the rest (Golden, Life of the Afterparty, 20 dollar nosebleed, ect) [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Camp er Joe;47908357]i never listened to anything post save rock and roll i mean i do know the top bangers but that was it so i didn't have much to compare save rock and roll too. save rock and roll is a decent album and i've listened to it quite a bit (except 1 or 2 tracks are just plain awful) but their latest album is just compilation of pop songs. its an awful album as every song tries so hard to be a radio hit banger but if you listen to each song individually in a playlist or something some of them are quite good.[/QUOTE] I can agree with you opinion for the most part. Like I said, if I look at it as a straight pop album from a modern pop band, then I think their latest two albums are pretty good (havent listened to them extensively enough to really give a good breakdown honestly). I just don't like the idea of bands just spontaneously switching genres. I mean a solid progression was seen from Take This To Your Grave to Folie, but then from Folie to Save I personally think they just jumped like the 5 steps to that point. After listening to Folie I can see the pop influences and that maybe they wouldve ended up to the same end if they hadn't have gone on hiatus, but I still dislike bands jumping from a mostly guitar driven form of music to music that's mostly make with post-processing [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] Also obligatory last fm super eccletic score, if people here still even use last.fm "gerbile5's super-eclectic score is 830/1000"