Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill - General

Fucking idiots. I bet religion also had a part to play in this. A lot of them, notably catholicism, enjoy going taking advantage of how poorly educated the majority are in many african countries such as uganda and misleading them into believing and executing ideas such as this negative attitude to homosexuality.

[QUOTE=Detective P;23339410]Homosexuals have as much to do with HIV as heterosexuals you [i]fucking dolt[/i]. Killing homosexuals will do nothing to curb the spread of HIV, [i]nothing[/i].[/QUOTE] Yes, and right now, Ugandans aren't treating HIV like it's a huge problem. They're having sex with anyone, and everyone outside their marriages, and they're not using condoms. If the fear of being killed-... and I really am still hating myself for saying this- if the fear is put in them of being killed, they would take it much more seriously, and actual progress can be made from there.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339338]Well, they're dying as is, and... I'm going to hate myself later for actually saying this... but if there's a fear of it, they will be less inclined to do it. Okay, from here on down, stop thinking about how much of a monster I'm being right now. [B]Seriously[/B] consider the (very few) options these people have. Yes the government could just stop trying to kill gays, and work with them, but do you seriously think that could possibly happen anytime soon?[/QUOTE] They need education. There's a commercial on Discovery Channel that has an African kid saying "I didn't even know man has been to the moon, we learned about things called Jupiter and Mars..." They have little to no education. That's what they need. They need the corrupt leaders gone, and more education, and less religious nut fucks like this guy telling them to kill gays. I can't stress that enough. Killing, or even treating to kill homosexuals is so ass backwards I'm shocked you are even saying its a viable option. You're back pedaling so hard your going to kill yourself on the hard rock that is the stone age. Genocide is never an option, NEVER EVER an option.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;23339442]Fucking idiots. I bet religion also had a part to play in this. A lot of them, notably catholicism, enjoy going taking advantage of how poorly educated the majority are in many african countries such as uganda and misleading them into believing and executing ideas such as this negative attitude to homosexuality.[/QUOTE] Right now, the religion is 100% of the problem. The Christian/Catholic government wants to kill the gays, and the Christian/Catholic people aren't using condoms because it's against their beliefs. It's 100% of the problem.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339461]Yes, and right now, Ugandans aren't treating HIV like it's a huge problem. They're having sex with anyone, and everyone outside their marriages, and they're not using condoms. If the fear of being killed-... and I really am still hating myself for saying this- if the fear is put in them of being killed, they would take it much more seriously, and actual progress can be made from there.[/QUOTE] ...you still haven't pointed out in any way how killing homosexuals helps anything. They aren't killing people with HIV, they're killing homosexuals. The fear of being killed [i]for being gay[/i], not for having unprotected sex, not for spreading HIV, not for being straight, not for rape, but [i]for being gay[/i] does not help anything.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;23339442]Fucking idiots. I bet religion also had a part to play in this. A lot of them, notably catholicism, enjoy going taking advantage of how poorly educated the majority are in many african countries such as uganda and misleading them into believing and executing ideas such as this negative attitude to homosexuality.[/QUOTE] The pope recently denounced the use of condoms in africa.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339461]Yes, and right now, Ugandans aren't treating HIV like it's a huge problem. They're having sex with anyone, and everyone outside their marriages, and they're not using condoms. If the fear of being killed-... and I really am still hating myself for saying this- if the fear is put in them of being killed, they would take it much more seriously, and actual progress can be made from there.[/QUOTE] Or instead of threatening them with death for sticking their dick in places, we could [I]educate[/I] them about condoms and let them stick their dick wherever they please. I don't care if their catholic, that's a shitty excuse.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339461]Yes, and right now, Ugandans aren't treating HIV like it's a huge problem. They're having sex with anyone, and everyone outside their marriages, and they're not using condoms. If the fear of being killed-... and I really am still hating myself for saying this- if the fear is put in them of being killed, they would take it much more seriously, and actual progress can be made from there.[/QUOTE] Yeah, lets kill some gays to instill common sense into the populace, that will show them

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23338783]They're mostly Christian/Catholic; condoms are a no-go.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck they are ignorant.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339503]Right now, the religion is 100% of the problem. The Christian/Catholic government wants to kill the gays, and the Christian/Catholic people aren't using condoms because it's against their beliefs. It's 100% of the problem.[/QUOTE] So, even though you say that the government is the problem, you still think that their bill would be ultimately helpful?

[QUOTE=Detective P;23339528]...you still haven't pointed out in any way how killing homosexuals helps anything. They aren't killing people with HIV, they're killing homosexuals. The fear of being killed [i]for being gay[/i], not for having unprotected sex, not for spreading HIV, not for being straight, not for rape, but [i]for being gay[/i] does not help anything.[/QUOTE] It would help nothing. Right now, they have so many problems that this is almost a small problem in Africa as a whole. Right now, there has to be appeasement, and unless you think the UN should just invade Uganda and kill their leaders (which, although I'm not seeing this happening, I'm not seeing it as a bad thing), then progress will have to wait a while.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339503]Right now, the religion is 100% of the problem. The Christian/Catholic government wants to kill the gays, and the Christian/Catholic people aren't using condoms because it's against their beliefs. It's 100% of the problem.[/QUOTE] So lets appease the bigot Christians by killing homosexuals and not stopping HIV/AIDS but promoting genocide and backpedaling in civilization., Ya, that will totally make Africa a better place.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339604]It would help nothing. Right now, they have so many problems that this is almost a small problem in Africa as a whole. Right now, there has to be appeasement, and unless you think the UN should just invade Uganda and kill their leaders (which, although I'm not seeing this happening, I'm not seeing it as a bad thing), then progress will have to wait a while.[/QUOTE] You're ridiculous. Defending genocide, what?

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339604]It would help nothing. Right now, they have so many problems that this is almost a small problem in Africa as a whole. Right now, there has to be appeasement, and unless you think the UN should just invade Uganda and kill their leaders (which, although I'm not seeing this happening, I'm not seeing it as a bad thing), then progress will have to wait a while.[/QUOTE] Appeasement...what? What are you even talking about? Let's appease a genocidal theological fringe group and and kill thousands of people, that will make everyone happy and promote progress and unity and fuck your shit. You have no clue what you are talking about, contradict everything you say, and can't even support half of your statements.

ED's "offended?" page has nothing on OPs posts in this thread.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339604]It would help nothing. Right now, they have so many problems that this is almost a small problem in Africa as a whole. Right now, there has to be appeasement, and unless you think the UN should just invade Uganda and kill their leaders (which, although I'm not seeing this happening, I'm not seeing it as a bad thing), then progress will have to wait a while.[/QUOTE] Disregard all of africa for a moment, this is only about uganda. This bill is a large problem, it advocates the genocide of a small, but nonetheless active portion of their population. Secondly, the UN would never, ever do something like that unless said country was to become a serious threat to the world's status quo.

[QUOTE=OvB;23339606]So lets appease the bigot Christians by killing homosexuals and not stopping HIV/AIDS but promoting genocide and backpedaling in civilization., Ya, that will totally make Africa a better place.[/QUOTE] Okay, so what do you suggest we do? They need education, medicine, food, healthcare, and hundreds of other things that we take for granted every day. Do you want to go to Africa to spread those aforementioned things to them?

[QUOTE=Detective P;23339662]Appeasement...what? What are you even talking about? Let's appease a genocidal theological fringe group and and kill thousands of people, that will make everyone happy and promote progress and unity and fuck your shit. You have no clue what you are talking about, contradict everything you say, and can't even support half of your statements.[/QUOTE] Hey wait..... [img]http://www.sww.w.szu.pl/postacie/post_alianci/chamberlain3.jpg[/img] :godwin:

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339697]Okay, so what do you suggest we do? They need education, medicine, food, healthcare, and hundreds of other things that we take for granted every day. Do you want to go to Africa to spread those aforementioned things to them?[/QUOTE] Well I suggest we [i]don't support murder and genocide[/i], that might be a first step to make.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339697]Okay, so what do you suggest we do? They need education, medicine, food, healthcare, and hundreds of other things that we take for granted every day. Do you want to go to Africa to spread those aforementioned things to them?[/QUOTE] No you're right, it is far easier to point at a minority and say "It's their fault." than to get off my ass and do something.

[QUOTE=Luuper;23339676]Disregard all of africa for a moment, this is only about uganda. This bill is a large problem, it advocates the genocide of a small, but nonetheless active portion of their population. Secondly, the UN would never, ever do something like that unless said country was to become a serious threat to the world's status quo.[/QUOTE] To the former part of your post: I know that, and if I could leave my house right now, and take a plane to Uganda to actually help them without destroying their lives, and "giving them the gift of God," or "bringing them civilization", then I would do it. To the latter part: I know that, and that's a huge problem. We are all humans, no matter where we live, and if one nation is trying to kill itself, we should recommend it a suicide-hotline, at the very least.

Kill two birds with one stone, gays and HIV.

Guess what OP? You literally sound like a Nazi in the Weimar Republic. There was a shit ton of social unrest and huge economic depression after WW1. Jews were seen as responsible for Germany's defeat and by consequence, the unrest in the same way you see gays as "responsible" for social unrest in Uganda because of HIV. Nazis and the Ugandan government used these scapegoats to distract the people from the unrest in their countries by declaring them the cause of the unrest and saying that their extermination will end their problems. In both cases, the gays and Jews are NOT responsible. You think it's okay to kill gays in Uganda in the same way a large part of the German population thought Jews, Slavs, Communists etc. needed to be destroyed. Congrats OP, you support genocide. Hitler would be proud.

I thought I'd seen gross shit on FA. Holy FUCK, was I wrong! Report damnit, report! I never thought I'd see shit like this here. Damn, and they say us furries are fucked up! [b][i]TH89, I chose you![/i][/b]

This is wrong. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339697]Okay, so what do you suggest we do? They need education, medicine, food, healthcare, and hundreds of other things that we take for granted every day. Do you want to go to Africa to spread those aforementioned things to them?[/QUOTE] You know what else they need, freedom from persecution based on sexual orientation

[QUOTE=Detective P;23339721]Well I suggest we [i]don't support murder and genocide[/i], that might be a first step to make.[/QUOTE] Yeah, let's not support it, so it can come back around and happen anyway, because of how little we, as a species, are doing to help every one of us, rather than helping our selves, or our nation.

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339697]Okay, so what do you suggest we do? They need education, medicine, food, healthcare, and hundreds of other things that we take for granted every day. Do you want to go to Africa to spread those aforementioned things to them?[/QUOTE] Well don't kill homosexuals to appease religion, or support genocide. That would be a good place to start.

Lets use the OP's logic and perma him to calm the "social unrest" of this thread. Because that will help rite guise :downs:

[QUOTE=Omnipharious;23339829]Yeah, let's not support it, so it can come back around and happen anyway, because of how little we, as a species, are doing to help every one of us, rather than helping our selves, or our nation.[/QUOTE] You are talking like the killing of the gays is an inevitability, is that what you think?