Whenever I accidentally stumble across Guro porn I feel sick. You can't compare that stuff to feet fetishes or BDSM because its pretty sadistic. I know how fetishes are, and how varying they can be, but how anyone can get sexual pleasure from seeing someone getting gutted and having their intestines spread out while getting fucked in the ass is beyond me. It's also borderline necrophilia.
But should it be illegal? Nope.
Shouldn't be illegal but it's still fucking creepy, and the people who draw/ fap to it need some help.
Are violent video games wrong and for murderers?
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Is the GTA series for reckless drivers and solicitors of prostitutes, as well as organized-criminals-in-training?
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Are Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Call of Duty: World at War, or Wolfenstein "wrong" and "sadistic" because of the fact that players who receive enough damage explode?
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33873030]Are violent video games wrong and for murderers?
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Is the GTA series for reckless drivers and solicitors of prostitutes, as well as organized-criminals-in-training?
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Are Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Call of Duty: World at War, or Wolfenstein "wrong" and "sadistic" because of the fact that players who receive enough damage explode?[/QUOTE]
I don't receive sexual pleasure from blowing someone up in a very cartoony fashion, nice try though.
Not to mention the majority of guro porn involves rape.
If nobody gets hurt, then no.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;33873081]I don't receive sexual pleasure from blowing someone up in a very cartoony fashion, nice try though.
Not to mention the majority of guro porn involves rape.[/QUOTE]
Oh so we're on the sexual pleasure thing.
Regarding rape: so does hentai apparently.
Is hentai for rapists?
Furthermore, is porn with beautiful women/men for sexual idealists?
I am kinda ok with people who fap to gore as long as they don't hurt to anyone. I am ok with pedos too as long as they don't rape children. It's creepy and weird to me, but it's not something that should be shunned just because they are attracted to different things.
What about watching gore but not for sexual gratification?
Haha oh yeah, there are some really fucked up pornography out there..
But who cares, it's mostly just harmless people jerking off to.. whatever they get off of. Personal stuff. The kinda stuff you would NEVER want to reveal to the people around you.
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33875772]Oh so we're on the sexual pleasure thing.
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Uh well yeah since that is the whole point of this guro stuff
[QUOTE=Aman VII;33877101]Uh well yeah since that is the whole point of this guro stuff[/QUOTE]No it's not. It's like saying action movies are for sexual pleasure. It makes no sense.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33879025]No it's not. It's like saying action movies are for sexual pleasure. It makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
what
guro is defined as erotic violence
I mean yeah I guess one guy just thinks it's fascinating to look at but most of us are in it to jerk off
that's why I look at it
I think anybody who has a fetish for gore should kill themselves.
[QUOTE=ripple3000;33879284]I think anybody who has a fetish for gore should kill themselves.[/QUOTE]
how dare they enjoy harmless porn
they should be hung
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;33879315]how dare they enjoy harmless porn
they should be hung[/QUOTE]
I agree, then post pics.
Quit trying to define normal.
I find it disturbing, but I don't care if people find it erotic. After all, everyone is weird in a way.
That kind of shit is gross, but it can't really be ruled illegal if it isn't breaking any laws.
yea its ok, just a fetish like evertything else
It's gross to me, but drawn pictures are harmless and victimless.
I am no psychologist though, so I have no idea if it promotes or sates the person's desire for gore.
Yes its wrong and creepy as fuck.
They should get off to killing themselves.
[QUOTE=Collin665;33880005]Yes its wrong and creepy as fuck.
They should get off to killing themselves.[/QUOTE]
Brilliant.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;33879315]how dare they enjoy harmless porn
they should be hung[/QUOTE]
If it's not drawn harmless my ass.
As long as I don't see it, it's fine.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;33867781]I dunno, weird grey area topic.
Usually when you have someone getting off to torture/death/etc they are murderers and serial killers.[/QUOTE]
It's not a grey area topic at all. Any basic Morals 101 class will tell you that what you think, imagine, fantasize and masturbate to is not immoral. At all. No matter what it is. I can dream about killing my best friend all day, ever day. I'm never immoral until I up and actually go do it. There may be something wrong with me, per se, but it has nothing to do with morals.
What you could argue, is that the production of such things is immoral, especially if real people are getting injured to make guro-based images or movies. However, you can not simply write someone down as immoral just because the fap to bloody, dead people. It doesn't work that way.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;33867781]I dunno, weird grey area topic.
Usually when you have someone getting off to torture/death/etc they are murderers and serial killers.[/QUOTE]
Really? I'd like to see some evidence for that. From what I understand, this stuff is appealing because it's mostly abnormal, not because of the content itself.
If you get off to the gore you really need to change subjects. It truly is a slippery slope from fantasy to acting out in reality when you gain physical pleasure from that subject.
Games are different because the gore itself isn't what you gain physical pleasure from, its the action of the game and gore tends to add immersion and some social aspects. And besides, sexual pleasure is much more powerful than the form of pleasure that games provide.
Likewise, if you gain pleasure from the simple taboo of gore and not the gore itself, that is even more incentive to look at other types of pornography. There are numerous other fetishes that are taboo, but don't display the pain and suffering of human beings. Not only will it be easier to switch to these other taboo things, but otherwise I think you might over time become attracted to the gore itself, which once more brings up the matter of a slippery slope.
Changing fetishes isn't actually that hard, its a matter of classical conditioning. I've done it myself a few times. In fact, how do you think you gained an attraction to gore in the first place?
[QUOTE=Collin665;33880968]If you get off to the gore you really need to change subjects. It truly is a slippery slope from fantasy to acting out in reality when you gain physical pleasure from that subject.
Games are different because the gore itself isn't what you gain physical pleasure from, its the action of the game and gore tends to add immersion and some social aspects. And besides, sexual pleasure is much more powerful than the form of pleasure that games provide.
Likewise, if you gain pleasure from the simple taboo of gore and not the gore itself, that is even more incentive to look at other types of pornography. There are numerous other fetishes that are taboo, but don't display the pain and suffering of human beings. Not only will it be easier to switch to these other taboo things, but otherwise I think you might over time become attracted to the gore itself, which once more brings up the matter of a slippery slope.
Changing fetishes isn't actually that hard, its a matter of classical conditioning. I've done it myself a few times. In fact, how do you think you gained an attraction to gore in the first place?[/QUOTE]
First of all, it's not a slippery slope in the slightest. I have never been tempted to kill a person. I don't want to kill a person. I don't start masturbating or get horny when someone dies because they got ran over by a bus. All of this is because I don't think with my cock, I think with my head.
Games are [i]not[/i] different, because the gore is usually a fucking selling point. Mortal Kombat and shit like that sell because you get to punch a guys fucking head off and then eat it, with blood pouring everywhere.
I've been masturbating to guro for a long time and it hasn't made me want to go cut off someones face. This 'slippery slope' idea is bulldick. There is no reason to deny myself harmless sexual pleasure like you want me to. Stop trying to control my fucking mind because you don't like what it thinks.
[I](In this post, I address snuff and other violent [/i]real[i] stuff, things you'd see on Rotten, Ogrish and Liveleak. And I'm just throwing some ideas out here, they're a bit chaotic and I'm not at all sure where I stand on this.)[/I]
In cases of snuff, I believe the issue of child pornography should be discussed as well.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;33867704]Why should it be wrong? Those images are going to be on the net regardless, why should it be a problem if someone wanks to it?[/QUOTE]
Does this apply here as well?
You could say that it is a slippery slope with child pornography, that it fuels a drive that snuff or gore videos does not. But why would one do when the other does not? Saying that looking at child porn will fuel your desires, isn't that the same as saying that looking at snuff will fuel your desire for violence?
And then there's the argument of demand and supply. In most cases of the videos of violence, like the things you find on Rotten, the events that you can view would have happened anyways, whether it had been filmed and distributed or not.
In child pornography cases, you could say that the event only takes place for the purpose of filming it and distributing it. But is that true? It seems to me that the abuse would take place anyways, and that the makers of it are not fueled by an outside demand, but rather their own desires to make it.
But if that is where we draw the line, when something is created with the [I]intention[/I] of distributing it, then why is 3 guys 1 hammer available? It is my understanding that the video is indeed a true snuff video? Shouldn't that video be illegal then?
About violent media overall;
I do not think it is wrong. It may be unhealthy, but ultimately you are not causing any harm by watching videos of people getting killed. If it makes you want to kill people, then your desire is the problem, not the video.
If it is drawn or in any other way not real, then it isn't wrong period.
[QUOTE=demoniclemon;33867713]As long as people don't act it out in real life, I have no problem with it.[/QUOTE]
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