A Complete History Of The Soviet Union Through The Eyes Of A Humble Worker - General

Such is life in Moscow [editline]06:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Melnek;24008274]There's absolutely nothing wrong with Communism. People are simply assholes who like to corrupt and exploit everything.[/QUOTE] I used to think Communism was a good idea, when i was 13-14 years old. But seriously though, Socialism is semi good, but Communism is a BAD idea. As long as there is corruption there will be no good communism state.

[QUOTE=FPChris;24011391]Such is life in Moscow [editline]06:26PM[/editline] I used to think Communism was a good idea, when i was 13-14 years old. But seriously though, Socialism is semi good, but Communism is a BAD idea. As long as there is corruption there will be no good communism state.[/QUOTE] Then you can't really say communism is a bad idea, as the idea itself is good, humanity is the bad part.

Communism is good in the sense as it pushes people to do what they love without worrying about making no money. But people who have the harder jobs should make more so it doesn't work.

[QUOTE=FPChris;24011391]Such is life in Moscow [editline]06:26PM[/editline] I used to think Communism was a good idea, when i was 13-14 years old. But seriously though, Socialism is semi good, but Communism is a BAD idea. As long as there is corruption there will be no good communism state.[/QUOTE] Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means it doesn't work. The idea of Communism is good, but the problem is that it can't be properly executed.

[QUOTE=Micr0;24014190]Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means it doesn't work. The idea of Communism is good, but the problem is that it can't be properly executed.[/QUOTE] The problem is the human element. People get greedy. Same problem with capitalism, people get greedy.

[QUOTE=ScoutKing;24015463]The problem is the human element. People get greedy. Same problem with capitalism, people get greedy.[/QUOTE] Exactly. The ideas are good in theory, but in practice they fail due to human greed.

[QUOTE=CubeManv2;24013302]Communism is good in the sense as it pushes people to do what they love without worrying about making no money. But people who have the harder jobs should make more so it doesn't work.[/QUOTE] I had this idea that for every job catagory there is, everyone in that catagory earns a 100% set amount of money. This way everyone will work to gain more education. And once you've been put into a catagory at the end of your education you're stuck there. Seems fair to me if you consider the assholes during the schools.

[QUOTE=Black-Ice;24015755]I had this idea that for every job catagory there is, everyone in that catagory earns a 100% set amount of money. This way everyone will work to gain more education. And once you've been put into a catagory at the end of your education you're stuck there. Seems fair to me if you consider the assholes during the schools.[/QUOTE] but the asshole thinks you don't deserve 100% so they take 5% of your pay. so they make 105% and you make 95% and it slowly gets worse. Just communism has no middle class, so problems start to occur quicker when people get greedy. With capitalism, there is a middle class, so theres less problems early on, but as you can all see in the recent years, issue start to pop up from job loss, to inflation to market failure ect ect. Mostly caused by greedy, just the middle class has acted as a buffer to slow the negative effects of capitalism. as communism didn't have a buffer, so it failed earlier.

Well we could make sure that doesn't happen by arresting them for 20 years or kicking them out of the country :v: [editline]09:34PM[/editline] I've been thinking of this all day, and I'm still trying to think of a name. Would probably be a good system for a while.

[QUOTE=Black-Ice;24017562]Well we could make sure that doesn't happen by arresting them for 20 years or kicking them out of the country :v: [editline]09:34PM[/editline] I've been thinking of this all day, and I'm still trying to think of a name. Would probably be a good system for a while.[/QUOTE] That would just create rebellion. Communism will never work while humans have free will. [b]Never.[/b]

[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;24017670]That would just create rebellion. Communism will never work while humans have free will. [B]Never.[/B][/QUOTE] Sorry I think you misread my two posts :frog: How will attempting to rid some corruption turn into rebellion :frog:?

Sticking people in one job their entire life isn't going to make them very happy. And exiling/arresting someone for 20 years is going to make them come back jaded and more rebellious.

Awesome video, awesome song.

[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;24018135]Sticking people in one job their entire life isn't going to make them very happy. And exiling/arresting someone for 20 years is going to make them come back jaded and more rebellious.[/QUOTE] Well if they feel unhappy they can let their superiors know and if they feel like they are not being treated properly with their management then it shalt be dealt with (i.e. replace, have a chat with the guy, etc) :v: It's basically to help everyone out but in return they stick to one job of that certain catagory. For example you can be a builder, which can happen to be a bridge, building, or cutting down trees and shit. Being a delivery person for example can mean any means of transport. Road, air train, boat. Of course it does need a bit of revising over and checking for faults. [editline]10:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;24018135]Sticking people in one job their entire life isn't going to make them very happy. And exiling/arresting someone for 20 years is going to make them come back jaded and more rebellious.[/QUOTE] Instead of 20 year jail, depending on how skilled you are you'll get a 5 year maximum and if they believe you have potential then you can work in a catagory that does not have many people in it within your level or lower, and if you don't know how to do that job they'll give you a 3-month teaching of that subject and you'll be paid to do the teaching as well (15% of your catagory's salary) [editline]10:36PM[/editline] The most needed jobs will have some differences in pay.

4.35 onwards is just so badass.

3:30 scares me just a little. "Weee shaaall liiive foooreeeveeer moooore" Just creepy faced.

Ugh. I gotten a lil sick of the whole "good on paper" vs. good in reality idea. IMO, you have to think of governments like an engineer would. So imagine you're building a bridge, and you say the bridge is perfect on paper. Low and behold, you didn't plan your fucking bridge to be able to take earth quakes in an earthquake zone, and it falls after you build it. Is it idealistically a good bridge on paper, even though you didn't account for all the variables? I say no, it isn't. P.S I absolutely love this video/song/history. Everything about it is great, though the awe-inspiring part ends at 5:19.

Ever think of what happens if Russia bring back the communism without making enemies with the American?

The E.U would get involved. And by E.U, i mean ever nation except France. Because they are cheese eating surrender monkeys.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24011060]The part that stuck out the most was when he said that everyone was the same. That really wasn't how it worked. And just the sinister inflection the guy adds when he says "socialism" or "the left".[/QUOTE] But he basically bashes capitalism towards the end of the video.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24011060]The part that stuck out the most was when he said that everyone was the same. That really wasn't how it worked. And just the sinister inflection the guy adds when he says "socialism" or "the left".[/QUOTE] It pretty well bashes both. With what you just said, and the end where he says "so much money for me, why should I care about peace and love." Suggesting capitalists are greedy and only care about money.

Well this is just brilliant

[QUOTE=OvB;24024944]It pretty well bashes both. With what you just said, and the end where he says "so much money for me, why should I care about peace and love." Suggesting capitalists are greedy and only care about money.[/QUOTE] Let's just say the video bashes Russia's inability to get their shit together.

Great video. Fuck politics.

[QUOTE=Super_Poo;24029913]Fuck politics.[/QUOTE] I can't even begin to express my agreement with this statement.

This video is fucking awesome... I can't stop watching it. :psyduck:

[QUOTE=Destroyer;24039301]This video is fucking awesome... I can't stop watching it. :psyduck:[/QUOTE] Same here :v:

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24011060]And just the sinister inflection the guy adds when he says "socialism" or "the left".[/QUOTE] I'm not seeing that.

Fenonomal, made to simple minds, even a kindergarden kid would get the history of russia iwth this video.

[QUOTE=beavis;24043915]Fenonomal, made to simple minds, even a kindergarden kid would get the history of russia iwth this video.[/QUOTE] I doubt it, It's simple yeah but I don't think many people would'eve guessed that "The man who assembles the blocks" Means a humble worker in Russia without reading the title.