• Bikers of Facepunch
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[QUOTE=JDK721;30827426]i prefer sports bikes[/QUOTE] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/58360521.OHP7_.jpg[/img] ?
what model bike is that and what state? i didnt know police used sports bikes
I saw someone riding that bike through London yesterday.
[QUOTE=JDK721;30832607]what model bike is that and what state? i didnt know police used sports bikes[/QUOTE] Its a Hayabusa [url]http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/25/suzuki-hayabusa-police-interceptor/[/url]
[QUOTE=JDK721;30832607]what model bike is that and what state? i didnt know police used sports bikes[/QUOTE] Police use all kinds of cars for catching speeders to undercover cops. There's a camaro ss undercover near me.
We only have volkswagens and volvo's and only Pan-European for the bikes :smith:
Busas are so unbelievably ugly
[QUOTE=QuikKill;30842152]Police use all kinds of cars for catching speeders to undercover cops. There's a camaro ss undercover near me.[/QUOTE] i know that im talking about sports bikes. police in the US rarely use sports bikes as far as i know.
[QUOTE=JDK721;30851327]i know that im talking about sports bikes. police in the US rarely use sports bikes as far as i know.[/QUOTE] I've never really understood why American police use Harley's and other cruisers like them (except for being American made). Sports-tourers are probably the best compromise between agility, speed, comfort and usability (panniers etc for radios and shit) for general patrol work. British police use those BMW tourers that I can't remember the name of for the grunt work mainly. Pan-Euros used to be the main police bike but they got phased out due to some handling problems that had nothing to do with the bike itself and lots to do with how the police loaded them out. So one copper died due to it and the negative impact was huge.
[QUOTE=Tucks;30854488]I've never really understood why American police use Harley's and other cruisers like them (except for being American made). Sports-tourers are probably the best compromise between agility, speed, comfort and usability (panniers etc for radios and shit) for general patrol work. British police use those BMW tourers that I can't remember the name of for the grunt work mainly. Pan-Euros used to be the main police bike but they got phased out due to some handling problems that had nothing to do with the bike itself and lots to do with how the police loaded them out. So one copper died due to it and the negative impact was huge.[/QUOTE] On top of them being American and very comfortable, I bet Harley gives them a huge discount.
Want. So much want. :( [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e198/StunnaDeluxe/IMG_7833.jpg[/img] [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] sold for $3400
I've stashed 5k away to buy a cheap used car in about a year, but now I'm thinking I could just buy a nice 3-4k sports bike instead. I'd think it would be much more affordable with gas and insurance, not to mention more fun to commute with. On rainy days I could just use my parents car. I'll be getting a lot of riding experience with a dirt bike real soon, so I wouldn't just be jumping onto a bike without any knowledge. Basically what I'm saying is, what do you guys think about using a bike as primary transportation?
Does... a scooter count as a bike?
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;30865622]I've stashed 5k away to buy a cheap used car in about a year, but now I'm thinking I could just buy a nice 3-4k sports bike instead. I'd think it would be much more affordable with gas and insurance, not to mention more fun to commute with. On rainy days I could just use my parents car. I'll be getting a lot of riding experience with a dirt bike real soon, so I wouldn't just be jumping onto a bike without any knowledge. Basically what I'm saying is, what do you guys think about using a bike as primary transportation?[/QUOTE] If you can use a car on rainy days or when you need to transport some stuff that won't fit on your bike, get a bike. [I]If the weather is too dangerous (snow or something) to drive with the bike it's almost certainly also too dangerous for a car anyway. [/I] [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=riceyrice;30865715]Does... a scooter count as a bike?[/QUOTE] If it's over 50cc yes.
[QUOTE=lemon_lover;30864334]Want. So much want. :( [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e198/StunnaDeluxe/IMG_7833.jpg[/img] [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] sold for $3400[/QUOTE] That painting is horrible. It looks like some skaters shoes. [img]http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/12634.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Dutchlike;30604019]Honda MB5 is pretty good, MT5 too. The fairing can be taken off, looks better IMO. [IMG]http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda-mb5.jpg[/IMG] [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] MT5 : usually more wear and tear on these things. [IMG]http://www.hinckleyrts.co.uk/rts/pictures/mt5a.jpg[/IMG] [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] Maybe a honda CD50, they're four stroke: [img]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q33/firestone2/HondaCD50HBlauw1.jpg[/img] [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] Or a SS50, also four stroke [img]http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2185/dsc03140marktplaats.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Anyone know of anymore 50cc geared bikes that look and sound less like mopeds/scooters are more like motorbikes?
[QUOTE=B-hazard;30868059]Anyone know of anymore 50cc geared bikes that look and sound less like mopeds/scooters are more like motorbikes?[/QUOTE] There are aprillia rs 50s but apart from that everything is going to be a 50cc moped, just take it like a man until you can get a bigger bike. Mind you I would consider scooters and anything less than 150cc (and 150 is really pushing it) to be pretty dangerous. Some times you need the power to pull out of a situation or to overtake a car and you can't be waiting around all day like you do on a 150. Not only that but in Australia you don't need a motorbike license to ride a scooter so you see all these fuck heads riding scooters who have no idea what they are doing, riding on the oil slick or 30cm from the curb. With no gear and open face helmets...
Does anyone of you happen to have any experience with KTM LC4? My fathers coworker is selling his, and I'm thinking of buying it. It looks like this: [img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/kotka.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;30865622]I've stashed 5k away to buy a cheap used car in about a year, but now I'm thinking I could just buy a nice 3-4k sports bike instead. I'd think it would be much more affordable with gas and insurance, not to mention more fun to commute with. On rainy days I could just use my parents car. I'll be getting a lot of riding experience with a dirt bike real soon, so I wouldn't just be jumping onto a bike without any knowledge. Basically what I'm saying is, what do you guys think about using a bike as primary transportation?[/QUOTE] keep in mind that owning a sports bike is not as cheap as many people think 1) the bike itself - 2008+ ninja 250 in good condition - $2,800 + tax, etc. 2) MSF course - depends on the state, but probably at least $100-$250. do not get a motorcycle without taking this class. 3) FULL gear - $500-$1000. don't be a moron who just rides around with only a helmet. 4) maintenance (more maintenance is necessary for motorcycles - tires need replaced more, etc.) 5) motorcycle tools if you want to do maintenance yourself 6) insurance so if you buy a ninja 250 and everything else above, expect to pay around $4,500 all in all, the price of owning a ninja 250 is basically equivalent to buying a cheap economical car. even if the bike gets better mileage and has cheaper insurance, there are the other factors that I mentioned above that pretty much make it equal.
[QUOTE=Ailerssi;30870025]Does anyone of you happen to have any experience with KTM LC4? My fathers coworker is selling his, and I'm thinking of buying it. It looks like this: [IMG]http://www.1337upload.net/files/kotka.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Supermotards seem like the funnest bikes to me. test drive it if you can. [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=B-hazard;30868059]Anyone know of anymore 50cc geared bikes that look and sound less like mopeds/scooters are more like motorbikes?[/QUOTE] Older model RS50 shouldn't be that expensive: [img]http://img.webme.com/pic/a/apriliars50chesterfield/aprilia.jpg[/img] Is two stroke.
Completed my CBT today, deciding whether to buy a 125cc until my full test, or try and get my full test done and buy a 250cc bike.
[QUOTE=Asm;30874742]Completed my CBT today, deciding whether to buy a 125cc until my full test, or try and get my full test done and buy a 250cc bike.[/QUOTE] Get a 400cc since the insurance is around the same as a 250, and in some cases cheaper.
[QUOTE=JDK721;30870626]keep in mind that owning a sports bike is not as cheap as many people think 1) the bike itself - 2008+ ninja 250 in good condition - $2,800 + tax, etc. 2) MSF course - depends on the state, but probably at least $100-$250. do not get a motorcycle without taking this class. 3) FULL gear - $500-$1000. don't be a moron who just rides around with only a helmet. 4) maintenance (more maintenance is necessary for motorcycles - tires need replaced more, etc.) 5) motorcycle tools if you want to do maintenance yourself 6) insurance so if you buy a ninja 250 and everything else above, expect to pay around $4,500 all in all, the price of owning a ninja 250 is basically equivalent to buying a cheap economical car. even if the bike gets better mileage and has cheaper insurance, there are the other factors that I mentioned above that pretty much make it equal.[/QUOTE] I feel like your numbers are way high. 1.) I got my bike for $4000. 1000cc v twin. 2.) MSF cource was $222. 3.) Full gear is not necessary. You DO NOT need to spend $1000 on all this "Bike" gear. Yes, your whole body should be covered. Jeans, leather jacket, gloves, and ankle high shoes/boots are more than sufficient to keep you safe. No matter what happens, if you hit the ground, you are going to get hurt. Whether you have a $1000 bike suit, or a $200-$300 clothes. 4.) Maintenance isn't as bad as it sounds. I spent $50 to change my oil, and thats usually once per season depending on how much you ride. And yes tires are a doozy, a decent set for my bike is about $400. But unless I'm an idiot and I do a burnout at every stop, I should be good for a few years at minimum. The rest of maintenance isn't really much, and is caused by negligence. 5.) Tools aren't that bad, just be smart about it. I got a 300 piece toolset for $150 and has every tool and more for my bike+car. 6.) Insurance isn't really as bad as everyone says. But I've always had to pay alot for mine anyway. I'm 18, with one non-moving violation ticket and my insurance is $101/m for full coverage. It's about $40 on liability. But keep in mind that this is 1000cc not a 250cc. I got two huge discounts, one is for the msf safety course, which in my opinion isn't always needed, but it will always brush up your skills and get you a waiver for your class m endorsement (motorcycle license) The next discount was for actually having a class m endorsement as opposed to 6 month temps. When I was all said and done with my bike it was $4900.
[QUOTE=QuikKill;30879912]I feel like your numbers are way high.[/QUOTE] I disagree. [QUOTE=QuikKill;30879912]3.) Full gear is not necessary. You DO NOT need to spend $1000 on all this "Bike" gear. Yes, your whole body should be covered. Jeans, leather jacket, gloves, and ankle high shoes/boots are more than sufficient to keep you safe. No matter what happens, if you hit the ground, you are going to get hurt. Whether you have a $1000 bike suit, or a $200-$300 clothes. [/QUOTE] I said $500 TO $1,000. There's a reason I gave a RANGE. $500 will probably be enough, but if you want multiple jackets for different types of weather then obviously you'll need to spend more. Regular jeans that you buy from a clothing store do NOT offer sufficient protection if you crash. They provide absolutely no protection and will be shredded, and your skin will be torn up. You need pants specifically made for riding such as leather/textile pants. A QUALITY helmet, boots, pants, jacket, and gloves will cost you at least $500 total. It may sound like a lot, but if you're not riding in full gear, and you end up crashing and surviving then there's a good chance your medical bills are going to be far greater than if you were wearing good quality full gear.
Yeah, I know my credibility is out the window since I don't ride, but it doesn't take a scientist to know that jeans and normal clothing will get shredded at anything above a 15 mph lowside. Put 15 pounds, wrap it in a single layer of cotton/polyester and drag it at 25 mph for about 100 feet. That's pretty much what would happen to you if you hit the ground, except there would be flesh on the road. There are vids out there of guys falling off their bikes at 100+ mph and coming out without a scratch or a broken bone because they were wearing good gear on their [B]whole[/B] body. And ankles. Man, I don't know how many people I see riding with low top tennis shoes on. If a 400 pound bike falls, where do they think it's gonna land? That ankle is gonna be crushed. Face it, even if it's more comfortable to ride in a t-shirt and jeans, don't go around spouting you'll be as safe as someone who's in full gear. Just makes you sound like a douche.
I see people riding here all the time without any gear or helmet it's their choice, but it's dumb as hell
Speaking of: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/03/motorcyclist-dies-helmet-protest_n_889427.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Watevaman;30884252]And ankles. Man, I don't know how many people I see riding with low top tennis shoes on. If a 400 pound bike falls, where do they think it's gonna land? That ankle is gonna be crushed.[/QUOTE] it makes me sad when i see people riding without proper boots on. steel cap boots dont do shit all when your ankles are being crushed and ripped off by the road.
[QUOTE=JDK721;30882836]I disagree. I said $500 TO $1,000. There's a reason I gave a RANGE. $500 will probably be enough, [B]but if you want multiple jackets for different types of weather[/B] then obviously you'll need to spend more. Regular jeans that you buy from a clothing store do NOT offer sufficient protection if you crash. They provide absolutely no protection and will be shredded, and your skin will be torn up. You need pants specifically made for riding such as leather/textile pants. A QUALITY helmet, boots, pants, jacket, and gloves will cost you at least $500 total. It may sound like a lot, but if you're not riding in full gear, and you end up crashing and surviving then there's a good chance your medical bills are going to be far greater than if you were wearing good quality full gear.[/QUOTE] You have Thermos motorcycle underclothing for this, keeps you cool in the summer and keeps you warm in the winter, I have used it in -5 degrees Celsius and my hands where about to either fall off or freeze stuck to the clutch and brake lever (could not find any gloves and someone had borrowed my motorcycle gloves) and it worked very good. Mind you this was with maximum speeds of 60 km/h because it was with the moped.
I'm glad I'm in a position where it's financially viable for me to spend $400 on a pair of boots. Fortunately I'm able to ride my street bike in them even though they're dirt-orientated. I have my summer jacket and gloves, and a waterproof jacket and over-pants and some winter gloves. All that plus my boots and helmet, comes to a total of about $900. When you factor in the cost of all the gear, insurance, extra lessons/tests for licenses/endorsement, it's not really that much cheaper to ride. I ride mainly because it's fun. I also don't get stuck in traffic, maintenence is usually cheaper and easier than a car and when you're travelling on a bike, you feel much more connected with the world and people come up and chat to you. I reckon it's well worth it.
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