[QUOTE=Watevaman;32610104]How long do knobby tires like that tend to last on the street? I'd definitely get a dual-sport and keep the knobby tires on if they lasted a good while.[/QUOTE]
I might be way off, but from some of my reading people with fully-loaded, heavy 600cc+ (DR/KLR650, KTM950/990 Adventure, etc) with fairly aggressive knobblies doing lots of highspeed tarmac get about 10,000km to a rear.
Of course it depends on the tyre, how much blacktop you're riding, how fast and how long you're on it and the weight of the bike.
If you're not doing a whole lot of rough, gnarly dirt riding you could go for a dualsport tyre and it'll last you a lot longer, not to mention be nicer to ride on the road with.
I've been real interested in bikes lately. I ran it across my parents and they totally freaked out and basically told me to "Fuck off, you aint gettin a bike!!1" (Which doesn't make much sense considering my dad owned one for a DD for most of his adult life) but naturally that only makes me want one more so. I was surprised at how cheap you can get them, a nice Dual-sport Kawasaki with what seems like some good power (i think it was around 600cc's) would cost me about half what the car did..I don't think insurance is exactly cheap on a bike though right? I wouldn't know. Anyways yeah, they seem like real fun, not sure if i want one around here though, just got done ranting about how shit the drivers are here in a different thread, and they are even worse when it comes to bikers. Act like they don't even exist, I've seen quite a few get ran off the road right in front of me.
[QUOTE=justin1992;32618928]I've been real interested in bikes lately. I ran it across my parents and they totally freaked out and basically told me to "Fuck off, you aint gettin a bike!!1" (Which doesn't make much sense considering my dad owned one for a DD for most of his adult life) but naturally that only makes me want one more so. I was surprised at how cheap you can get them, a nice Dual-sport Kawasaki with what seems like some good power (i think it was around 600cc's) would cost me about half what the car did..I don't think insurance is exactly cheap on a bike though right? I wouldn't know. Anyways yeah, they seem like real fun, not sure if i want one around here though, just got done ranting about how shit the drivers are here in a different thread, and they are even worse when it comes to bikers. Act like they don't even exist, I've seen quite a few get ran off the road right in front of me.[/QUOTE] Ride like you're invisible, it's the only way to survive, at least over here.
[QUOTE=justin1992;32618928]I ran it across my parents and they totally freaked out and basically told me to "Fuck off, you aint gettin a bike!!1" [/QUOTE]
Same happened with me, but i kept on babbling about how great bikes are for 3 years (Ever since i got my moped at 15 years old) and eventually they accepted it :v:
I don't get why parents freak out about bikes, they're only as dangerous as you make them.
Oh, and drivers here are pretty polite when it comes to bikes, i just read an article about how the safety of motorcycles has constantly been rising in Finland. Dunno bout USA tho.
Many drivers here are retards, just today some guy stepped on the gas when I tried to overtake him, happened several times.
What also pisses me off are those old fucks who brake for no apparent reason, check your mirrors for fuck's sake!
You have to have the mentality that everyone is trying to hit you. Otherwise they will. Be cautious and defensive with every move you make.
[QUOTE=Screw;32628107]Many drivers here are retards, just today some guy stepped on the gas when I tried to overtake him, happened several times.
What also pisses me off are those old fucks who brake for no apparent reason, check your mirrors for fuck's sake![/QUOTE]
Clearly if your overtaking people its actually the invitation for a race.
My TT250 will finally get back on the road tomorrow, thanks to a fair bit of work I've done recently.
12v stator/lights/battery, DC headlight/taillight, full-wave rectified DC, new left-hand control cluster with push-to-cancel indicators, all wiring re-done and simplified (on the lighting side of things, left the ignition alone).
I've also got a RAM Aquabox (mounted rally-style :v:) for my GPS, DIY case saver, rear indicators relocated further back and a larger, waterproof box to replace the stock toolbox.
My GPS mount, plus switches and stuff
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VZzZG.jpg[/img]
The mess behind and the DIY speedo/ignition mount (which I'll be redoing when I get myself a digital speedo)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/X8XPV.jpg[/img]
And the case-saver, which still needs a sprocket cover made (there's more clearance between the sprocket then it looks)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RInTE.jpg[/img]
I hope nothing falls off when I take her for a spin tomorrow
brother got a free bike from his friend the other day, all it needed was a cleaning of the carb
[IMG_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5698103/IMG_20111005_172033.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
honda shadow or something
Got my motorcycle license today. Feels good man.
I think I'm gonna take the MSF course in a few weeks. Thought I would have to wait until spring because I'm taking a class on Saturday mornings but I found out that the local MSF provider has range classes on weekend afternoons. Can't wait. Maybe I'll pick up a bike this winter if something comes along.
Why are secondhand bike prices so inflated compared to car prices? They don't cost much to begin with, so why does someone think they can sell a 15-year-old bike for $3000?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32675261]Why are secondhand bike prices so inflated compared to car prices? They don't cost much to begin with, so why does someone think they can sell a 15-year-old bike for $3000?[/QUOTE]
What kind of bikes you looking at?
[QUOTE=Bladerunner1;32676371]What kind of bikes you looking at?[/QUOTE]
Just generally looking through craigslist looking for older sport bikes. I just don't get why you can find plenty of cars for $500-$1000, but a bikes of similar age that cost a third of what the cars cost new are way higher than that.
Because bikes don't lose their value unless they're wrecked. My 17 year old cbr 600 cost 2000 dollars.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32676624]Just generally looking through craigslist looking for older sport bikes. I just don't get why you can find plenty of cars for $500-$1000, but a bikes of similar age that cost a third of what the cars cost new are way higher than that.[/QUOTE] Funny, here it's the exact opposite. :v:
[I]Moral of the story: move to the Netherlands[/I]
A guy i know has a CBR 125. It's nothing special, really reliable, but also really REALLY lazy, but good for a first bike, i guess.
It's also pretty damn small. The tyres are like from a bicycle :v:
If money is not a problem, you should also check out Yamaha yzf-r 125, Aprilia RS4 125, Derbi gpr (the 4-stroke version), they're much bigger and have a sturdier feeling.
E:
Ninja'd. It's pretty small for a motorbike (Really really thin). You won't look stupid on it, besides motorcycling isn't something you do for the looks :v:
[t]http://www.arpem.com/motos/modelos/honda/flash/2007/cbr-125-r/honda-cbr-125-r-b.jpg[/t]
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For comparison
Cbr125 in the middle, RS125 on the left, Yzf-r 125 on the right
[img]http://ninja250r.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/betiga.jpg[/img]
Thinner tyres are cheaper :v:
Yeah, a 15kw 125cc won't be much fun on a highway, but then most highways are boring regardless. If you've got the cash and the interest, I say go for it.
The good thing about countries with size restrictions is smaller bikes are generally pretty plentiful, cheap and hold their value. They've been used to learn on then people move on, there's always always someone that'll want it when you're done.
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
Also keep in mind it's only a year before you can upgrade.
And it sounds like a hoover with the original exhaust :v:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLf7LIBP3ts[/media]
But speaking seriously, you should definitely go for it. It consumes very little fuel and is really easy to maintain. It's also light which makes it easy to control. Definitely a great choice as a first bike.
[QUOTE=Mr Anonymous;32710886][B]I made this thread in the Automotive Addicts section of Facepunch, but, I was told to repost it here. So, that is what I have done.[/B]
Hello guys. I was looking to buy a Honday CBR 125 - RS hopefully brand new. But, it depends on the price. They usually cost about £1500. This will not only be my first motorbike, but my first anything. All I have ever rode is a bicycle. I am 17 and have suddenly taken a huge interest in motorbikes. Originally I was going to get a Moped because Cars are too expensive. But, now I want a motorbike. Can anyone tell me if this bike is any good, or, if there are any other good starter bikes out there that don't exceed 125CC and 15KW of power. If anyone has any advice on this motorbike, other motorbikes or even motorbikes in general. That would be great!
Thanks in advance.
[B] Due to UK laws and regulations, I have to take a CBT to purchase and drive a motorbike and I can only have a motorbike that does not exceed 125CC and 15KW output of power. Then when I am 18 I can take another motorbike test that allows me to get a much more powerful motorbike. So, that's why the CC and Power output is low. [/B][/QUOTE]
Just to clarify, you need to be 17 to take the UK motorcycle test. You'll be restricted to 33BHP for 2 years, but you can restrict any bike to 33bhp. In my opinion, these are the advantages and disadvantages of riding a 125 on L plates
Advantages -
Fuel economy
Don't have to pay for tests
Insurance can be cheap or expensive, your premium goes down a fair bit once you've got your full license (even when insuring a 600 sport-tourer/naked)
Quicker access to the road
Disadvantages-
L plates
You'll hit 70, but it'll take a tailwind and a bit decline to do so, not to mention pushing the engine to its limit.
Keeping up on busy A roads can be a struggle
Small size of bikes give you very little road dominance, drivers may try to dangerously overtake/cut you up
Being a 17 year old lad who hasn't passed his test puts you in a prime statistic group for KSI accidents, you'll learn much more by training and passing your mod 1 & 2.
If you stay on a provisonal, your 33BHP restriction will not be ticking down, so when you want a bigger bike you'll be waiting much longer for full power.
Overall lack of power will make you very bored within months, not having the power to get out of sticky situations can be dangerous, too.
It's up to you, but I'd contact your local bike schools for advice about training for your test if I were you.
Also, you will have a MUCH wider choice in bikes you can purchase. For example, a suzuki bandit can be picked up for less than 1000-1500, and it generally hasn't be thrashed by 17 year old l platers like most 125's have. They hold their value much better than 125's too.
Don't buy a new 125, you will be hugely out of pocket when you come to sell it. The CBF/R125 deprecates catastrophically from new.
PS - It's not 15KW, it's 14.5bhp or 11KW
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OpUkPOfl-GY/TghQpF3G-aI/AAAAAAAAAO8/NVghzSfzOyM/s1600/suzuki-bandit-600.jpg[/IMG]
are there any good 2-stroke sports bikes out there in america? I like the sound of them, and they seem to have adequate power for a beginner
[QUOTE=JDK721;32760707]are there any good 2-stroke sports bikes out there in america? I like the sound of them, and they seem to have adequate power for a beginner[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of great 125cc ones.
Newer ones:
Aprilia RS 125, Cagiva mito, Cagiva mito SP525(It's actually 125, don't know why they call it that), Cagiva Planet, Cagiva Raptor, Honda nsr 125, Derbi GPR 125,
Older ones
Aprilia rs 125(Older models), Aprilia RS Tuono 125, Suzuki RG125/RGF125, Derbi gpr 125, Yamaha TZR125, Aprilia af1, gilera sp, yamaha RD125.
If i was to get 125cc 2-stroke, i'd probably go for a supermoto anyway. Lovely things.
I think they're really rare in the US though. they're more like collector's bikes now, and it seems that you have to pay quite a lot for them.
I might just get a ninja 250 instead to start off. eventually I'll get a 600 supersport. I just want a less powerful bike to learn on for a couple years.
My NSR is a great bike, although I have no experience with any other 2-stroke small sports bikes. As far as I know, NSR is the most reliable and most fuel efficient of any of these "old" two stroke sports bikes. It of course lacks of power compared to Mito, RS and RGF but it's still a fine bike.
Oh and yeah: Here's a video and two pics of it that I don't think I've posted yet
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2-wYWtLMIU&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
[img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/IMG_0500.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/IMG_0498.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Ailerssi;32729168]And it sounds like a hoover with the original exhaust :v:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLf7LIBP3ts[/media]
But speaking seriously, you should definitely go for it. It consumes very little fuel and is really easy to maintain. It's also light which makes it easy to control. Definitely a great choice as a first bike.[/QUOTE]
all that exhaust did was make it sound like a deep hoover.
I love the double headlights on that NSR, i've ridden an MB once, any idea if it's comparable? I really liked the riding position and the buttery smooth gear-changing.
It's getting really cold here. Probably gonna snow in the next two weeks...
Getting sort of depressed. :(
Well, gonna give my GSX600F gets new paint and an overall makeup + some maintenaince during the winter.
My money's slowly running out with my car driving liscense, I might not be able to get a bike at all.
And here we're having our (I think) first day over 30C tomorrow :D
My TT got a shiny new piston today after getting it back from being bored and honed yesterday.
I've replaced the valve seals, cleaned the massive amounts of carbon off the valves and head and re-seated the valves. Hopefully now it won't smoke and will have a little bit more grunt :v:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/BcSo3.jpg[/img]
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