Are people in Mensa, IQ organization, and colleges and universities.. Just idiots?
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I still don't get the first joke. "Because he's 'minute'"?
[QUOTE=Black-Bird;17697363]So memorizing unimportant facts (newts being amphibians).[/QUOTE]
Hey, whoa there bud, that is not an unimportant fact. I mean, if you define that as unimportant, what do you consider important?
As a Zoologist, that's a damn important fact to me.
But yeah, MENSA is for snobs who are actually no more intelligent than us.
[QUOTE=DaveP;17706531]Problem with that joke is that if someone said it out loud far more people would be likely to get it than it being written on the page[/QUOTE]
Well, that and the fact that the lizard/amphibian classification is completely irrelevant to the actual punchline.
If they wrote out "minute" it would be a pun anybody could catch, and it wouldn't matter if you knew whether a newt was actually a lizard or an amphibian. That's how you're supposed to write wordplay, anyway.
[QUOTE=Whomobile;17705594]I get it, the bartender rounded off to two beers because the next mathematician would ask for half of what the last one ordered, and since there are an infinite number of mathematicians, it would go on forever if he didn't.
Am I the smarts now?[/QUOTE]
Not sure if "rounded" is the correct term here.
From how I understood it, the sum of all beers would be equal to two, as shown here:
[url]http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum_%28i%3D1%29^infinity+1%2F%282^%28i-1%29%29[/url]
[b]Edit:[/b]
Link may break due to XSS protection.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;17707133]I still don't get the first joke. "Because he's 'minute'"?[/QUOTE]
"Minute" and "My newt" are pronounced the same.
mi⋅nute [mahy-noot, -nyoot, mi-]
–adjective -nut⋅er, -nut⋅est.
1. extremely small, as in size, amount, extent, or degree: minute differences.
2. of minor importance; insignificant; trifling.
3. attentive to or concerned with even the smallest details: a minute examination.
[QUOTE=aero1444;17697675]The joke is nothing to with the whole "amphibian" bit. It's because my newt sounds like minute[/QUOTE]
Who pronounces minute as mynute?
Oh wait, I misunderstood the whole thing. I thought it meant minute as in "a minute has passed"
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;17707279]Well, that and the fact that the lizard/amphibian classification is completely irrelevant to the actual punchline.
If they wrote out "minute" it would be a pun anybody could catch, and it wouldn't matter if you knew whether a newt was actually a lizard or an amphibian. That's how you're supposed to write wordplay, anyway.[/QUOTE]
No, that's not how you're supposed to write word play.
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[QUOTE=ThePuska;17707378]No, that's not how you're supposed to write word play.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is.
You can't say "my newt" because it implies a pause between the words as in normal conversation, and you can't say "my-newt" because it's inelegant. Whether you want to believe it or not, nor everyone who speaks english would pronounce "my newt" fast enough to confuse it with "minute." Say "minute", however, and there's a guarantee the audience will pick up on the homophony.
IQ is a very generalised and biased test based on mathematical and geometrical logic
I wouldn't trust it
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;17697684]I'm not your buddy.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrTAt_m1po[/media][/QUOTE]
You know i was really expecting that "i'm not your buddy, guy" "i'm not your guy, friend" "i'm not your friend, buddy" south park episode clip
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;17708244]Yes it is.
You can't say "my newt" because it implies a pause between the words as in normal conversation, and you can't say "my-newt" because it's inelegant. Whether you want to believe it or not, nor everyone who speaks english would pronounce "my newt" fast enough to confuse it with "minute." Say "minute", however, and there's a guarantee the audience will pick up on the homophony.[/QUOTE]
There aren't rules in belles-lettres, saying that something's supposed to be done this way or that something can't be done is stupid. If the word play isn't supposed to be obvious, then surely making it obvious doesn't serve the point of the text.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;17708704]There aren't rules in belles-lettres, saying that something's supposed to be done this way or that something can't be done is stupid. If the word play isn't supposed to be obvious, then surely making it obvious doesn't serve the point of the text.[/QUOTE]
You were the one who called him out on "writing it wrong". :confused:
[QUOTE=Hellduck07;17708782]You were the one who called him out on "writing it wrong". :confused:[/QUOTE]
Yes I was a little vague, but notice how I said "that's not how you're supposed to write it" instead of "that's how you're not supposed to write it". The latter means his way is wrong, the former is just a negation that's true because he's wrong in saying that there's a correct way to do it.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;17708868]Yes I was a little vague, but notice how I said "that's not how you're supposed to write it" instead of "that's how you're not supposed to write it". The latter means his way is wrong, the former is just a negation that's true because he's wrong in saying that there's a correct way to do it.[/QUOTE]
No, both the latter and the former mean the same thing. The latter sounds like your being condescending, after someone has "that's how you're supposed to write it".
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;17708244]Yes it is.
You can't say "my newt" because it implies a pause between the words as in normal conversation, and you can't say "my-newt" because it's inelegant. Whether you want to believe it or not, nor everyone who speaks english would pronounce "my newt" fast enough to confuse it with "minute." Say "minute", however, and there's a guarantee the audience will pick up on the homophony.[/QUOTE]
You appear to speak incredibly slowly. At an average speed they sound rather similar.
IQ tests are bullshit. Well that was my excuse.
[QUOTE=Hellduck07;17709212]No, both the latter and the former mean the same thing. The latter sounds like your being condescending, after someone has "that's how you're supposed to write it".[/QUOTE]
In the former, the "not" negates the "is"
In the latter, the "not" negates the "supposed"
In the former, my claim is a logical conclusion of his claim being false. "A = B" is false, therefore "A != B" is true. A is "that way" and B is "the correct way", the way you're supposed to use.
In the latter case I would be claiming that "A = C", where C is an undesired way, a way you're [i]not supposed[/i] to use.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;17709519]In the former, the "not" negates the "is"
In the latter, the "not" negates the "supposed"
In the former, my claim is a logical conclusion of his claim being false. "A = B" is false, therefore "A != B" is true. A is "that way" and B is "the correct way", the way you're supposed to use.
In the latter case I would be claiming that "A = C", where C is an undesired way, a way you're [i]not supposed[/i] to use.[/QUOTE]
Both ways imply that A = C.
[QUOTE=lmaoboat;17701673]Well I guess I hang out with a lot of smart people, or the curve needs adjusting, since I've never met anyone with an IQ less than 110.[/QUOTE]
People do tend to select company within their IQ range. Also, if you've never met anyone with an IQ less than 110, then the average IQ of the people you meet must be higher than 110 (the mean cannot also be the minimum value).
[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;17710037]People do tend to select company within their IQ range. Also, if you've never met anyone with an IQ less than 110, then the average IQ of the people you meet must be higher than 110 (the mean cannot also be the minimum value).[/QUOTE]
The mean could be 110.1, which would then be rounded down to 110.
[QUOTE=noctune9;17704912]An infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar. The first one orders a beer. The second orders half a beer. The third, a quarter of a beer. The bartender says "You're all idiots", and pours two beers.[/QUOTE]
An infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar. The first one orders a pint of beer. The second one says "pour a third of that beer out". The third one orders a fifth of a pint of beer. The fourth one says "pour a seventh of a pint out". The bartender says "You're all idiots", and gives them a quarter slice of pie.
What now :smug:
[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;17710111]An infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar. The first one orders a pint of beer. The second one says "pour a third of that beer out". The third one orders a fifth of a pint of beer. The fourth one says "pour a seventh of a pint out". The bartender says "You're all idiots", and gives them a quarter slice of pie.
What now :smug:[/QUOTE]
They didn't get what they ordered. That's pointless.
[QUOTE=Hellduck07;17710057]The mean could be 110.1, which would then be rounded down to 110.[/QUOTE]
So let's assume he only has two friends, and one of them has IQ=110, and the other has IQ=110.2.
It all makes sense now :frogc00l:
[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;17710180]So let's assume he only has two friends, and one of them has IQ=110, and the other has IQ=110.2.
It all makes sense now :frogc00l:[/QUOTE]
Yes, but we could also assume that he has more friends.
It all makes sense now: you're a moron.
[QUOTE=Mattz333;17707055]Is Gordon Freeman part of Mesa?[/QUOTE]
Gordon freeman would join mensa just to kill all the members with a crowbar.
I would...
Black-birds argument that mensa members believe the more knowledgeable a person is the more intelligent they are is flawed. That information is not on any of thier websites, you don't have any evidence to back up your argument, so that statement is your opinion.
What I think the joke advertisement is trying to suggest is that if you got the joke then could apply, but if you think outside the box in a sense and got the flaw in the joke then should think even more about applying because you thought outside the box. The fat that it is a joke could suggest that mensa members should be fun and have a sense of humour. A quality that is actually mentioned on their websites. IQ tests test logic,perception, visual reasoning, memory and observation, not just a bunch of fact based questions which would give you a knowledge score.
The need for testing for admissions to the "top" colleges are essential. They are at the top for a reason, because the graduates have the highest results. The tests are to make sure that you know enough to be able to cope with all the studying that will have to do.
[QUOTE=Egevened;17708392]IQ is a very generalised and biased test based on mathematical and geometrical logic
I wouldn't trust it[/QUOTE]
We've established this.
But yeah, I'm not generally one for these genius societies, they're just a place to bolster ego as said before.
i fucking lol'd
I got the joke, but did not laugh/smirk even inwardly.
[QUOTE=:smug:;17712640]i fucking lol'd[/QUOTE]
you have a horrible sense of humor if you laughed at that joke
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