Since I rediscovered this section after being banned in here like 2 years ago, I'll say that I think I'm one other types. I tend to talk to myself as I'm setting up a shot. Listing shutter speeds, ISO's, flash sync, etc, but to myself... but people still ask me like, "Um... what are you talking about."
I sometimes feel I'm the guy that either A) knows a lot, and can't shut up about it. B) knows average, but thinks he knows a lot.
I catch myself shooting off a bunch of random technical mumbo jumbo about the camera. I hate myself for it since I don't like those people either :x
Talking tech stuff is good if your work is good. There's no reason knowing your stuff should be synonymous with being a poor shooter. Just make sure your pictures back up your knowledge and be able to justify artistic choices you make
Keep talking over what you're doing in you're head, make sure you know what will do what e.g. wider aperture - shallower DoF, slower shutter - blurred movement etc.. It really helps to keep the knowledge ticking over in your head and makes you think more about why you're setting the camera up in certain ways.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;39081247]Talking tech stuff is good if your work is good. There's no reason knowing your stuff should be synonymous with being a poor shooter. Just make sure your pictures back up your knowledge and be able to justify artistic choices you make[/QUOTE]
I guess it's partially that when I see people speaking overly technical, I assume it might be a front for lack of understanding, so I translate that to myself. Since I feel I do know myself well enough, that I don't want people to see me as giving a facade. I've done photography as a hobby since I was a kid, I did my first paid gig at the end of November, and have been delivering batches of their requested photos since then. I found myself talking about what I was doing during the shoot to myself and a few of them asked me what I was saying, like I mentioned above.
It was a portrait shoot for a company's website, so we were all pretty close in a room. It felt a bit awkward as like Him1411 says, I kind of do it to make sure I'm aware of what I'm trying to do and to work through it.
I'll see about posting a few of the photos on here once I have them sign off on them and they are aware of me using them for personal promotion. Maybe then I can get some ideas about how I did.
If I have further comments I'll move them somewhere else, don't want to clog up in here.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;39081447] If I have further comments I'll move them somewhere else, don't want to clog up in here.[/QUOTE]
Check out the Photo Offtopic Discussion thread:)
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kinda unrelated but reminded me of this thread's major that guy
[QUOTE=Kabstrac;39555589]There's this local photographer ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucedean/[/url]), and generally his shots are well composed, but he definitely has a superiority complex if you read some of his photo descriptions. So, on this shot ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucedean/8443898928/[/url]) I commented, "Good shot, but why are you shooting at f/14? f/8 on an APS-c sized sensor will allow pretty much everything in focus, any higher is leading into diffraction and no real benefits." I asked this as I noticed that the settings on all his shots are erratic; ISO 1600 in broad daylight at f/22, for example. So, it seems like he has no idea what he's doing on the technical/setting sides of things and is on auto or something. He responds:
"...I don't teach photography for free"
I'm thinking of something to say, this guy is a dirk
Here's one of his rants: [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucedean/8441138743/in/photostream/[/url]
"The event was full of dumbass photographers constantly blocking the view and making it impossible to get shots without them and their egos.
Hey, morons! Get your shot and then get the fuck out of the way! Use your brain and try thinking of others.
So many shots were ruined because of these lazy selfish fucktards. Even this shot had to be shopped to darken the area to camouflage a couple of the jack-offs."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it looks like he has no idea what he's doing.
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucedean/8464782303/in/photostream[/url]
1/1000ƒ/ 5.6ISO 1600ISO 10 mm
Why is he at 1/1000 when the subjects are not moving? What the hell is going on here.
[editline]12th February 2013[/editline]
Just commented "May I ask why you are shooting at 1/1000 and ISO 1600 in daylight? Is there a certain look you are going for with the fast shutter and the stationary subjects? Thanks, Elliott"
[QUOTE=Elfy;39555709]Yeah, it looks like he has no idea what he's doing.
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucedean/8464782303/in/photostream[/url]
1/1000ƒ/ 5.6ISO 1600ISO 10 mm
Why is he at 1/1000 when the subjects are not moving? What the hell is going on here.
[editline]12th February 2013[/editline]
Just commented "May I ask why you are shooting at 1/1000 and ISO 1600 in daylight? Is there a certain look you are going for with the fast shutter and the stationary subjects? Thanks, Elliott"[/QUOTE]
auto settings suck
It looks like he doesn't know how to change the ISO in his shoot and left it on shutter priority
flickr comments are pretty much the last actual place for constructive criticism though. they are pretty much reserved for "WOW COOL" "plz let me put this in this random place" "award here"
any sort of public comment that exists over a period of time is a no go for much critique, that's better left to PM's
wait is he reading this thread?
well that's awkward
If you are shooting at ISO 1600 in broad daylight then you clearly have no idea how a camera works.
Hell I see a few of them shot at 6400 in daylight...
Wait why does this person even matter? He's just some guy who's a little too old to be arguing with teens on the internet about his own photos. It's like he never grew past age 16 and he seems to have a lot of anger about anything and everything. Forget him and don't bother harassing people even if it seems like they deserve the confrontation, it's a waste of time. Live and let live.
[editline]11th February 2013[/editline]
He posted some sarcastic whiny shit about you to his [url=https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151261940910108&set=a.84175070107.93468.616050107&type=1&theater]own facebook[/url], as a grown adult. He's not even worth interacting with.
[QUOTE=Elfy;39555835]It looks like he doesn't know how to change the ISO in his shoot and left it on shutter priority[/QUOTE]
"Perhaps we could meet up sometime, and you can teach me how to change the ISO on my new-fangled digital camera thingy."
He replied and my theory is correct.
[editline]13th February 2013[/editline]
"when I swing one over my arm to use the other camera, the dial gets knocked out of position, and onto another setting. "
Wait, he doesn't double check his settings in the viewfinder before he shoots? What.
[QUOTE=Elfy;39579599]"when I swing one over my arm to use the other camera, the dial gets knocked out of position, and onto another setting. "[/QUOTE]
So people like him are the reason Canon introduced the mode dial lock? I still don't see how it is actually useful. If you knock your dial over to another setting, just turn it back, it's not like your settings are actually changed.
[QUOTE=Raygen;39585082]So people like him are the reason Canon introduced the mode dial lock? I still don't see how it is actually useful. If you knock your dial over to another setting, just turn it back, it's not like your settings are actually changed.[/QUOTE]
Context is everything, see active and often multi-bodied activities: wedding photographer, paparazzi, etc.
[QUOTE=Elfy;39579599]Wait, he doesn't double check his settings in the viewfinder before he shoots? What.[/QUOTE]
tbh i pretty much always shoot aperture priority with fixed ISO and i remember what the aperture setting is between shots, so unless it got significantly darker since the last shot and i already had a pretty slow shutter speed, i probably won't look at the settings between shots
I'm pretty terrible, and I know I'm pretty terrible.
But my camera is literally the only thing that makes me happy.
This thread is so weird. Just be secure with yourself.
[editline]14th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=don818;39594178]I'm pretty terrible, and I know I'm pretty terrible.
But my camera is literally the only thing that makes me happy.[/QUOTE]
Go out and chase what makes you happy.
[QUOTE=bopie;39594207]This thread is so weird. Just be secure with yourself.[/QUOTE]
This whole subforum is weird.
The Facepunch photography forum is pretty unique.
It's my favorite place on the internet.
[QUOTE=Adius Shadow;39595827]It's my favorite place on the internet.[/QUOTE]
have to agree, i visit this place way more than anywhere else on the web.
YOU GUYS ARE SOME PRETTY COOL GUYS, MAN
I've found here to be a very level playing field whereas if you go to other forums and tell them you're an 18 year old who shoots with a micro 4/3'rds camera you pretty much get laughed at or ignored by the armchair photographers that fill every other message board out there
[QUOTE=Him1411;39596681]I've found here to be a very level playing field whereas if you go to other forums and tell them you're an 18 year old who shoots with a micro 4/3'rds camera you pretty much get laughed at or ignored by the armchair photographers that fill every other message board out there[/QUOTE]
What's with all the full-frame elitists on the internet? Literally every review site, blog or forum I've seen (other than facepunch) has a tonne of hate towards any camera that isn't full frame.
[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;39596780]What's with all the full-frame elitists on the internet? Literally every review site, blog or forum I've seen (other than facepunch) has a tonne of hate towards any camera that isn't full frame.[/QUOTE]
I must admit I hear an awful lot of "eww, plastic-y" when I hear people speak about things like the Canon Rebel-series or even the entire range of EF-S lenses when, in my opinion, there's nothing really to complain about.
I guess full-frame owners can get spoiled by high dynamic range, good ISO performance and image quality of their large sensors. But crop sensors are cheaper, give you extra focal length and give full-frame lenses a sweet spot effect. There shouldn't be an argument about this, you should just choose what suits you best.
Gear means nothing if your own concepts and abilities mean you produce photographs with better aesthetics and more depth than those of full frame elitists
Only other forum I go on is dyxum, it's a Sony friendly place with great lens reviews, so if I need any Sony advice they fit the bill. Very helpful community there, they know a lot about gear and their exclusive sales are nice.
But all I would ever do on there is gear related, and just because its the best place to learn about that stuff. I don't participate in any other discussion, my heart is at this sub forum. I've found a lot of great photographers here, made some great friends, and hopefully contributed to this place as a whole. I love it here.
Talk photography is a nice forum. They use your first name and everyone is very friendly. It's full of pros who give good advice too.
We are all just a big happy family here, you guys have taught me so much and made me aspire to do better, big love <3
