• The Giant Bomb Thread V2: It's a website! About video games!
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I haven’t finished listening to the podcasts, I’m still on Day 4, but this is the first time I’ve come close to not finishing them. It’s been mentioned before but the amount of confusion over the “Best World” category was really frustrating. And yeah Abby has done a poor job of articulating her thoughts. I know she was hired as a video producer and not a writer, and I really like her otherwise, but it does get grating. [editline]29th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeos;53014109]Wait? They fucking nominated the boring final boss? What? At least the shitfest that was the final encounter in TNC was passable and actually had gameplay other than run to glowing vent then shoot[/QUOTE] It was briefly discussed but it wasn’t really considered seriously. They all agreed that the final boss sucked.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;53012855]also interested in knowing why jeff didn't put horizon in hist top 10 list, considering he gave it a 5/5 in the review.[/QUOTE] In case you haven't seen it, he answered this question on his Tumblr. [t]https://i.imgur.com/Ny9lrZo.png[/t] [t]https://i.imgur.com/r2zBxTd.png[/t] Also a bonus one, because this is something that bothered me quite a bit last year. Alex was always bringing up games just for the sake of bringing them up to the point where it started to feel like it was wasting a lot of time. [t]https://i.imgur.com/r9MYtbR.png[/t]
[video=youtube;nkzmF4A9l_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkzmF4A9l_Q[/video] [video=youtube;Rrts86TBZ5s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrts86TBZ5s[/video]
good news for jeff, yuke's is making the edf spinoff, iron rain.
[QUOTE=Zeos;53014109]Wait? They fucking nominated the boring final boss? What? At least the shitfest that was the final encounter in TNC was passable and actually had gameplay other than run to glowing vent then shoot[/QUOTE] Actually they completely forgot about the real last mission where you retake the city and they were actually talking about the Almighty
it's actually insane that they give pubg the defacto #1 spot from the get-go, and as they work their way up they end up arguing to the tiniest details for zelda and nier for third and second, then they just sort of dismiss pubg "because we had fun with it". it's stupid as fuck and it's no better than brad shilling for destiny so hard. not to mention abby's constant interjections with her "it's very good" opinions as well as cheap jabs at games she dislikes (while not having played), or the fact that she pushes dream daddy so hard and even says, "I also think it is doing something new for dating sims cause I don't play dating sims..." like what the fuck. [editline]30th December 2017[/editline] this was by far the worst goty podcast they've had, just simply because of how large portions of it were just so awful to go through, from the "best world" mess, to abby's insistent pushing on dream daddy being top 10 while having 0 arguments as to why it should be there over other games (nioh, horizon, persona, hollow knight, etc.) other than "it's sooo good".
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;53015368]this was by far the worst goty podcast they've had, just simply because of how large portions of it were just so awful to go through, from the "best world" mess, to abby's insistent pushing on dream daddy being top 10 while having 0 arguments as to why it should be there over other games (nioh, horizon, persona, hollow knight, etc.) other than "it's sooo good".[/QUOTE] I stopped watching Giant Bomb years ago but i still watch some of their stuff on occasion. They're now kinda meh to me.
it lost a lot of appeal when vinny moved to east coast and it ultimately died when drew left [editline]30th December 2017[/editline] all thats worthwhile to watch on the west anymore is jeff. brad has never been all that great and he was only kinda good when the crew was what it was years ago. vinny + jeff are the real OG motherfuckers, always was such a great pairing to make funny shit happen. drew added to funny shit too and always had interesting games to show that could have funny shit, like simulators.
[QUOTE=Furnost;53015516]it lost a lot of appeal when vinny moved to east coast and it ultimately died when drew left [editline]30th December 2017[/editline] all thats worthwhile to watch on the west anymore is jeff. brad has never been all that great and he was only kinda good when the crew was what it was years ago. vinny + jeff are the real OG motherfuckers, always was such a great pairing to make funny shit happen. drew added to funny shit too and always had interesting games to show that could have funny shit, like simulators.[/QUOTE] I know this site was Jeff and Ryan's creation, but it was Vinny and Jeff's chemistry in the Persona 4 endurance run that made me a Giantbomb fan. These two bounce off and improvise off each other more naturally than real life comedic duos and losing that relationship kind of diminished the core I fell in love with Giantbomb in the first place. EDIT: Also stole this from the comments Here's a weighted list based off the staff's top 10 lists (Number 1 picks worth 10 points, number 10 picks worth 1 point): 1.) Super Mario Odyssey (60) 2.) Nier Automata (53) 3.) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (50) 4.) Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (45) 5.) Player Unknown's Battlegrounds (44) 6.) Cuphead (41) 7.) Assassin's Creed Origins (20) 8.) Night in the Woods (19) 9.) Destiny 2 (19) 10.) Pyre (14)
I can't believe literally every time Nier/P5 came up, Abby got incredibly uncomfortable, esp. with the best new character portion. Talk about wearing your prejudices on your sleeve. [editline]30th December 2017[/editline] "ew these japanese sex games" "wow this sex game really got me into the genre" get you a girl that can do both
She also very clearly didn't play Nier for more than like, 20 minutes.
I was undecided on Abby til the Dream Daddy thing and then seeing her not knowing about any of the games in the Winter Games video. Like, she just doesn't seem to know about much at all when it comes to gaming... which would be fine if she wasn't at a gaming site of all places lol.
I just like how Abby knocks on nier for being horny when she is fighting for dream daddy
To be fair, Dream Daddy really isn't horny. It's a dating simulator, sure, but it's a pretty wholesome game. It's not like it's one of [I]those[/I] dating Sims.
[QUOTE=ryfry99;53016206]I just like how Abby knocks on nier for being horny when she is fighting for dream daddy[/QUOTE] The thing is the fanservice stuff in Nier A is completely neglible and blown out of proportion (and is mainly an easter egg that you can just ignore) especialy by Abby who completely makes up bullshit like "You have to look up 2B's skirt in order to finish the game" which is just some asinine tripe. I never really cared for the fanservice stuff with 2B, but not because I found it "offensive" but because her personality, design and overall demeanor has zero sex appeal or attractiveness, and so the lewd stuff felt out of place with her. Her becoming this video game sex icon is one of the most baffling things to me, because no matter how much lewd fan art I see of her, it always does absolutely nothing for me:disgust:
[QUOTE=heyoo;53016562]The thing is the fanservice stuff in Nier A is completely neglible and blown out of proportion (and is mainly an easter egg that you can just ignore) especialy by Abby who completely makes up bullshit like "You have to look up 2B's skirt in order to finish the game" which is just some asinine tripe. I never really cared for the fanservice stuff with 2B, but not because I found it "offensive" but because her personality, design and overall demeanor has zero sex appeal or attractiveness, and so the lewd stuff felt out of place with her. Her becoming this video game sex icon is one of the most baffling things to me, because no matter how much lewd fan art I see of her, it always does absolutely nothing for me:disgust:[/QUOTE] That's sort of the rub though, is that they're very conventionally attractive humanlike beings but are in no way conventionally attractive from a personality standpoint (Usually). As for the lewd stuff, her design is really captivating and suggestive, regardless of her personality, so people will sexualize it for sure.
[QUOTE=heyoo;53016562]The thing is the fanservice stuff in Nier A is completely neglible and blown out of proportion (and is mainly an easter egg that you can just ignore) especialy by Abby who completely makes up bullshit like "You have to look up 2B's skirt in order to finish the game" which is just some asinine tripe. I never really cared for the fanservice stuff with 2B, but not because I found it "offensive" but because her personality, design and overall demeanor has zero sex appeal or attractiveness, and so the lewd stuff felt out of place with her. Her becoming this video game sex icon is one of the most baffling things to me, because no matter how much lewd fan art I see of her, it always does absolutely nothing for me:disgust:[/QUOTE] 2B, and really Nier Automata's characters in general, is one of those cases where I find the lewd fanart offputting and not at all appealing. It just seems so weirdly inappropriate given the world, what those characters are, the tone of the game, and so on. The character design definitely has a style, and it looks amazing, but it doesn't ever come off as "Japanese pervy fanservice" in the way that something like a Galgun (which I know is an extreme example, but I don't play a lot of JRPGs) or somebody like Camilla from the newest Fire Emblem does. The cutscene camera in Automata never even does any upskirt or deliberately exploitative shots either, so that criticism just doesn't fly IMO.
Abby needs to go. I can't believe they spent so much time talking about fucking DREAM DADDY. Out of all the games that came out this year.
I can understand the complaints that she doesn't articulate her thoughts very well, but [I]she needs to go? [/I] Simmer the fuck down lol. You don't need to agree with everyone on the site. And why's everyone so caught up on her liking Dream Daddy? If she liked it she has just as much right as anyone else on the show to bring it up. It's not even a bad game. Quite good, even.
[QUOTE=Skyward;53016978]I can understand the complaints that she doesn't articulate her thoughts very well, but [I]she needs to go? [/I] Simmer the fuck down lol. You don't need to agree with everyone on the site. And why's everyone so caught up on her liking Dream Daddy? If she liked it she has just as much right as anyone else on the show to bring it up. It's not even a bad game. Quite good, even.[/QUOTE] [I]I treat my favorite game websites like I do a new season of SURVIVOR![/I]
[QUOTE=Skyward;53016978]I can understand the complaints that she doesn't articulate her thoughts very well, but [I]she needs to go? [/I] Simmer the fuck down lol. You don't need to agree with everyone on the site. And why's everyone so caught up on her liking Dream Daddy? If she liked it she has just as much right as anyone else on the show to bring it up. It's not even a bad game. Quite good, even.[/QUOTE] That was like the only thing she played. Pretty much everything else they were talking about she either didn't finish, or flat out didn't play.
Dream Daddy shouldn’t even be in the running of top ten visual novels that came out in 2017, let alone game of the year
Hey I'd rather listen to Abby talk about Dream Daddy instead of another 45 minutes of Brad insisting Destiny is the best videogame ever and if you don't agree then I'll just refuse to proceed with the discussion.
So is Brad getting paid for this shit?
[QUOTE=Skyward;53016978]I can understand the complaints that she doesn't articulate her thoughts very well, but [I]she needs to go? [/I] Simmer the fuck down lol. You don't need to agree with everyone on the site. And why's everyone so caught up on her liking Dream Daddy? If she liked it she has just as much right as anyone else on the show to bring it up. It's not even a bad game. Quite good, even.[/QUOTE] dream daddy can stay in the top ten list, but there [b]needs to be an argument for it.[/b] she offered no reasons as to why it deserves to be on the list besides "it's very good and pushed new grounds for the genre" even though she admitted to not having played other visual novels before.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onr93McYeJ4[/media] Still a pretty good year for GB content wise.
Brad ranting about Andromeda and Dan being confused about Dream Daddy makes it all worth it. Dream Daddy for Dankest Meme Game 2017
[QUOTE=GNJF;53017751][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onr93McYeJ4[/media] Still a pretty good year for GB content wise.[/QUOTE] Totally forgot about that Hitman christmas special thing. The entire thing was incredible all the way through. Their Rock Band special was great too
Giant Bomb is a very good, cohesive, very good website. It's soooo good. Abby joined GB as an associate producer, to help out with filming and editing. I don't mind her not knowing everything about games, as that's not her job. It's frustrating though when she dominated the deliberations, interrupting more knowledgeable experienced staff. She would have done well to hang back and learn from how the others discuss and hash out the winners. Plus she got really stroppy when she didn't like the final three.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsw4q2rwmVQ&feature=youtu.be[/media] absolutely perfect.
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