Super Friendly Social and Love Advice v8 - Stop spamming her with texts. - General

[QUOTE=farmatyr;52261316]Speaking from experience. Hit the gym, it's social and you automatically get women after a while (with some effort).[/QUOTE] Man, dude, farmatyr, I know you've had some success lately, but that's just classic jelled-back hair douchebag advice. If it was as simple as working out a bit, then most gyms would be drowning in guys trying to get in shape.

[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;52263737]Man, dude, farmatyr, I know you've had some success lately, but that's just classic jelled-back hair douchebag advice. If it was as simple as working out a bit, then most gyms would be drowning in guys trying to get in shape.[/QUOTE] I don't think working out is necessarily a good way to get new friends (at least that's my experience with the clientele), but I think it's a great way to get your mind off stuff. I work out with a friend of mine and honestly I think it has helped me quite a bit in my recent breakup. It's also nice to get in better shape (though honestly I've never been really out of shape). Hitting the gym is good advice in general in my view. Personally I'd say it's better friend-attaining advice to have a stable social base of sorts - school or work basically. That obviously makes it harder for Ardosus, but friendships are something you build with people over time, seeing them regularly - sure, you could probably make some new friends at a local bar, but I'd say you'd have a better shot if you went to school. Basically, work towards getting back to school; maybe this is hard for you, but I'd say it'll likely help you in the long run.

[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;52263737]Man, dude, farmatyr, I know you've had some success lately, but that's just classic jelled-back hair douchebag advice. If it was as simple as working out a bit, then most gyms would be drowning in guys trying to get in shape.[/QUOTE] Except most are?

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52264238]It sounds like you just need some sort of direction in general. A passion, career, something to revolve your life around that isn't a relationship, porn, or video games. Have you considered gardening?[/QUOTE] I've tried a lot of hobbies over the years, including gardening, I almost always quit because I'm never any good at them. The only one I really keep coming back to is drawing, which of course is an indoor activity that I usually spend in front of my computer. I don't know how, it's just that over the years, finding a relationship became the one thing I actually care about. I wish I could say it's just sexual frustration but it feels like so much more than that.

[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;52263737]Man, dude, farmatyr, I know you've had some success lately, but that's just classic jelled-back hair douchebag advice. If it was as simple as working out a bit, then most gyms would be drowning in guys trying to get in shape.[/QUOTE] I don't think really see how it is, got me out of loneliness and depression. Been at it every day for a year now and I've never been feeling better.

It was the way you worded it. "Automatically get women", that's not how it works. I do agree that it helps though, that you'll feel better, probably be more confident, and women will be more attracted to you, but you worded it poorly.

Usually i have lots of confidence, but when it comes to meeting new people, i find it a bit hard to act normal. Personally i think i always come off as a weird person because sometimes i speak unclearly and do lots of weird gestures and funny faces. Also when going out with friends i have high motivation to push my limits further like asking out random girls at the bar, but i always chicken out. Any advice on this? I really wanna be a relateable and an interesting person to new people and have more guts to try new stuff.

I need your opinions on something. Many months ago I met a woman from tinder who I liked, we spent 3 days in a cottage together and had sex. On the first day I got there I told her that I wasn't interested in a relationship with her and she said she accepted it. As the days went on we became friends and we parted as such. She has been messaging me on and off several times from then and it is obvious that she is crushing hard. She want to meet me this summer but I'm not interested in meeting her and to be honest, I don't want to see her again. She is annoying and the only reason I met her last time was that I was depressed and didn't think clearly. Anyways, I don't know whether I should just remove her from facebook and everything and block her on my phone or if I should talk with her before I do it. The thing is, she has depression herself and I can't decide whether it's more cruel to seem like a nice guy and leave on good terms or just seem like an asshole and break off all communication. If I tell the truth she will still be crushing hard on me and will feel bad because I don't love her and don't want to be her friend. I have been on the other side of something like this before and in hindsight I would personally prefer if the woman would have just ignored me cause then I would have brushed her off like a bitch and gotten over her quicker. What do you think? [editline]23rd May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=RzDat;52265362]Usually i have lots of confidence, but when it comes to meeting new people, i find it a bit hard to act normal. Personally i think i always come off as a weird person because sometimes i speak unclearly and do lots of weird gestures and funny faces. Also when going out with friends i have high motivation to push my limits further like asking out random girls at the bar, but i always chicken out. Any advice on this? I really wanna be a relateable and an interesting person to new people and have more guts to try new stuff.[/QUOTE] This is something you get better at by just approaching new people several times. Don't worry too much about seeming normal and try to have a good time.

[QUOTE=maeZtro;52265373]I need your opinions on something. Many months ago I met a woman from tinder who I liked, we spent 3 days in a cottage together and had sex. On the first day I got there I told her that I wasn't interested in a relationship with her and she said she accepted it. As the days went on we became friends and we parted as such. She has been messaging me on and off several times from then and it is obvious that she is crushing hard. She want to meet me this summer but I'm not interested in meeting her and to be honest, I don't want to see her again. She is annoying and the only reason I met her last time was that I was depressed and didn't think clearly. Anyways, I don't know whether I should just remove her from facebook and everything and block her on my phone or if I should talk with her before I do it. The thing is, she has depression herself and I can't decide whether it's more cruel to seem like a nice guy and leave on good terms or just seem like an asshole and break off all communication. If I tell the truth she will still be crushing hard on me and will feel bad because I don't love her and don't want to be her friend. I have been on the other side of something like this before and in hindsight I would personally prefer if the woman would have just ignored me cause then I would have brushed her off like a bitch and gotten over her quicker. What do you think? [editline]23rd May 2017[/editline] This is something you get better at by just approaching new people several times. Don't worry too much about seeming normal and try to have a good time.[/QUOTE] dude just tell her the truth. be blunt, tell her exactly what you said in this post.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;52263496]I watch porn fairly often, it varies but generally at least once or twice a day. I don't wank every time I look at porn, though.[/QUOTE] Excuse me if I am overstepping my bounds here, but how do you feel after a wank? Do you feel refreshed, invigorated? Or does it all come crashing down, and drain you?

[QUOTE=Not64;52266393]Excuse me if I am overstepping my bounds here, but how do you feel after a wank? Do you feel refreshed, invigorated? Or does it all come crashing down, and drain you?[/QUOTE] Generally I feel worse but it's usually not a very significant change. It doesn't affect how horny I am at all, which I find very odd. [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52266487]Wait, if you generally watch porn once or twice a day, you may have a porn addiction.[/QUOTE] Could be. I tried going a week before without looking at porn at all, just to see if I felt any different, and as I recall, I didn't. But on the other hand, I did only last a week.

Don't worry too much and wank off as long as it doesn't get in the way of being a functional human being. If anything, it'll help with minor aches and make you sleep better. And there is no reason to feel guilty about it. Literally everybody does it, although couples tend to make it a, erm, two-player game. Just enjoy your endorphine shot, and don't dwell on it. Follow the suggestions given to be a more social person, and you may eventually find somebody special. But don't go around seeking romance, just enjoy life, and you will eventually have an unexpected but happy development. ... Okay, and, in an awkward note, dropping a "yeah, I used to have a crush on you a few years ago" wouldn't really make me lose friends, right? I know the answer, but I need a bit of external feedback with this particular issue, had some bad experiences that really stunted my growth in this aspect of my self-esteem.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;52266716]Generally I feel worse but it's usually not a very significant change. It doesn't affect how horny I am at all, which I find very odd.[/QUOTE] Interesting. Reminds me of me. What I'd do if I were you: try to focus on getting rid of that "worse" feeling you get after wanking. I'm not saying to quit porn, I'm not saying to stop wanking altogether. Experiment with different things before/during your wank and see how it affects your mood when you're done. Maybe you might find that certain porn makes you feel different, or maybe doing it standing up instead of sitting down is better. Maybe stretching you legs before doing it helps a bit. The whole idea is to feel less shitty when you're done. Masturbation is supposed to lift your mood, not dampen it. Anything that makes you feel shitty contributes to depression. This is no different. For me, it was the fundamental thing that caused my depression, but for you it might be a combination of things. It's all about baby steps.

[QUOTE=fritzel;52193690]Just reload page and select the new rating icon.[/QUOTE] I did. I just wanted to make sure I didn't offend, incase they saw before I had corrected it. Thanks anyway.

There's less than a month left till school is over. I'm gonna have to take the maturity exam And these last few weeks I've been failing the year hard And frankly I don't give a shit, I don't care whether I fail or not, I just want the pressure and anxiety to go away

[QUOTE=Hilton;52265964]dude just tell her the truth. be blunt, tell her exactly what you said in this post.[/QUOTE] Thank you for the input but I already removed her from everything. Big stone of my chest, you can't live your life for other people.

Can't help but feel I've messed up somehow. Could use some opinions. To sum things up since I've already explained the story behind this girl: I met someone at a bonfire a month ago and ended up becoming close to her. As time passed and we started to talk to one another more and more, she developed feelings for me at some point along the way. I always had feelings for her from day one, but instead of diving in for her heart, I chose to be a good friend, and kept romantic feelings from obstructing everything between us. A few nights ago (think the 18th/19th) she dropped my friend off at my house (he lives with me) and we drove over to the park and talked in her car. We usually always have really long conversations one-on-one when it's appropriate (and we both love them) but I could tell this was something a tad different. Earlier that day, I'd told her that I was internalizing something I couldn't really express because she had pressed for it. I was internalizing the fact that I liked her and didn't know how to come to terms with it. When she parked the car that night, she almost immediately pressed for it again. I knew what she wanted but I sort of danced around it. We sat on the conversation topic of relationships, love -- we even shared some secrets. As I was slowly starting to get into the core of what I wanted to say (which is that I liked her), she said something that really bothered the hell out of me. "I'm the type of person to get turned off by people confessing their feelings for me. I don't know why, I'm literally cursed". Verbatim. I decided I'd relegate my "confession" to another day. She drove me home, I got out, shared a hug with her as she told me she was only a text away if something was wrong at home, so on and so forth. I told her good night, then we hung out again, this time one-on-one. By the end of that day, I realized I sort of passed the point of no return and needed to tell her how I felt. I called her at around 9:30 that night and started to get into it. I had an almost lifelike premonition of her rejecting me and somehow ruining everything before I'd called her, and it came up again when I was speaking. I actually ended up crying when I managed to articulate that I liked her. She thought it was sweet, told me she liked me a lot too, etc. It felt pretty great to get it out like that. The day after, we talked again over the phone. We just talked about our day, how we were feeling that day, so on and so forth. Near the end of the conversation I brought up what happened last night. I basically said that I was really vulnerable that night and apologized if I had put her into a situation where she didn't know what to do. She reassured me that she truly did like me, and that nothing was out of pity, but then [I]immediately[/I] compounded it with "you'll have to honor me not wanting to act on my feelings". At that point, I'd become irrational. I said "I understand, trust me... but it'd really help if you elaborated". I pressed on a bit. She said she was really fragmented that day and had trouble thinking since she'd woken up, so I just let it go and thanked her for talking to me about it. Here's where things started to hit a turning point. I woke up feeling extremely guilty and ashamed on Saturday. She messaged me asking how I was feeling, and I told her "good, just kind of bothered by something". She asked me what, and I basically just said "I'm sorry for everything that happened yesterday". I felt guilty for pressing for something she didn't understand and didn't want to talk about. She didn't say anything in response, so on behalf of my irrationality I said "I'd like to talk to you about something if that's okay with you". We did -- over text -- and I basically said that I felt like I burnt bridges by confessing how I felt, that I pushed her away, and that I ruined what we had. She responded with "I don't know what you want me to say.", and I replied with "You don't have to say anything. I'd just like your thoughts." She gave me a paragraph, and among the sentences in it was "not sugarcoating it, those feelings have already passed for the most part" and "don't want to talk about this anymore, sorry". At that point, I put on a façade and acted like it was perfectly fine, even though it hurt a bit. I said "That's perfectly fine. Thanks for talking to me about this and thanks for expressing how you feel. Things just aren't good right now, and I understand." I had asked her if her loss of feeling was brought on by any of my actions. She said "no, promise". Where I stand right now basically involves internalizing everything. Right now, I'm acting as if nothing ever happened around her and that I'm happy, even though the way things turned out hurt me quite a bit. She still cares about me, but I can't help but feel I've ruined my chances of ever being with her. She was on Skype with my friend last night and gave me a friendly "hi!" and said "oh my god, [my name]!" excitedly when she heard me speak. I don't know what to make of this. Above all else, I care about her as a person -- not just as a relationship partner -- but I don't know if I've pushed her away and I've made a huge mistake. Right now, I'm giving her as much space as possible, but still being there for her as a good friend. I definitely miss coming home from school and seeing a new message from her. Nothing is set in stone, but I can't help but feel that I've fucked everything up and that I'll never have the chance to get close to her again. Sorry for the word wall, too. A [I]lot[/I] of details I felt were important.

You didn't ruin anything dude, she isn't worth your time at all. She shouldn't be getting so close with you and not expecting you to develop feelings. If anything look on the positive that you can/should move on and forget about her. There are more girls out there and guess what, there are even ones that will tell YOU that they have secret feelings for you and actually want to be with you You don't want to be with someone like the girl you described trust me man [editline]24th May 2017[/editline] Anyone who says "I'm the type of person to get turned off by people confessing their feelings for me. I don't know why, I'm literally cursed" is an edgy kid who is gonna die sad and alone, I would have noped out at that point.

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;52269567]Anyone who says "I'm the type of person to get turned off by people confessing their feelings for me. I don't know why, I'm literally cursed" is an edgy kid who is gonna die sad and alone, I would have noped out at that point.[/QUOTE] I don't think confessing feelings is a problem but I think crying about it and being overly emotional is very unsexy to most people and make them think because they don't want to be with an unstable person. To me it seems like she's acting like this for one of two reasons: 1. She likes and cares about him as a friend and lies to make him feel good. 2. She does like him more than a friend but when he's acting like he described she get's unsure. I want to point out that I don't think it's wrong to be emotional. Heck, I have done what Alex GT did for a big portion of my life, but it pushes the woman away. People want to be with people who makes them feel good and crying your heart out to her and then apologizing about it doesn't make her feel good.

Adding to what maeZtro said, I'd be willing to bet that she was sensing you were about to do a big confession like that, and thats why she said "I'm the type of person to get turned off by people confessing their feelings for me. I don't know why, I'm literally cursed" I am having trouble understanding how you can have such strong feelings for someone you've only known for a month.... if you've been dating for a year, then sure. But at this point you barely know her.

[QUOTE=AlexGT;52269555]Can't help but feel I've messed up somehow. Could use some opinions [/QUOTE] I've been trough this before. I have to say this "dancing around" you're going trough is not worth it. She seems really insecure about the way she actually feels about you. In all honesty is not worth it chasing her specially since she doesn't even know if she feels anything for you anymore. This girl is gonna be the embodiment of a emotional roller coaster if you keep on falling for her every time she says something that demonstrate affection. I know it might be tough at first but you gotta move on. Trust me is not worth it being emotionally drained because of her.

[QUOTE=maeZtro;52269754]I don't think confessing feelings is a problem but I think crying about it and being overly emotional is very unsexy to most people and make them think because they don't want to be with an unstable person. To me it seems like she's acting like this for one of two reasons: 1. She likes and cares about him as a friend and lies to make him feel good. 2. She does like him more than a friend but when he's acting like he described she get's unsure. I want to point out that I don't think it's wrong to be emotional. Heck, I have done what Alex GT did for a big portion of my life, but it pushes the woman away. People want to be with people who makes them feel good and crying your heart out to her and then apologizing about it doesn't make her feel good.[/QUOTE] What motivated me to be open about how I felt was her behavior to begin with. As I started to get comfortable with her, I realized that she did indeed like me but she wasn't really content with her feelings. The reason behind that (And she explained it to me) is because she's had awful experiences all around, and has an extreme aversion to somehow fucking everything up. She expressed that she felt as though nothing ever really works out and that she's afraid of commitment. She hasn't really had a stable life -- I'm pretty sure her family has contributed to a ton of it. I know what coming off too strong is. I didn't drag anything out or make it out to be the biggest thing in the world. She actually offered to video call me or whatever when I first brought it up, even when she knew what was coming. I cried because I still wanted to have a rewarding friendship with her, but didn't want to keep it all in, especially since she was giving me all sorts of indications that she liked me back. I didn't sob or weep or anything either, just teared up a bit because it was hard to articulate. By the end of the call we were both laughing and talking about something else entirely. Pretty much just left it at "Yeah man, I just think you're awesome and I appreciate who you are". I got the same thing back. [QUOTE=Not64;52269837]Adding to what maeZtro said, I'd be willing to bet that she was sensing you were about to do a big confession like that, and thats why she said "I'm the type of person to get turned off by people confessing their feelings for me. I don't know why, I'm literally cursed" I am having trouble understanding how you can have such strong feelings for someone you've only known for a month.... if you've been dating for a year, then sure. But at this point you barely know her.[/QUOTE] It's a bit contradictory to think that when she kept pressing on for what she already knew. By no measure did I say "I'm deeply in love with you and I can't live without you!!!". I kept it practical and honest, and I was lucky enough to have her say she liked me back too. Not out of pity, either. I can't really say what happened the day after that or what changed. The reason I feel so strongly about all of this is because we mirror one another in a ton of ways, and I feel like it'd be tough to just let all of this go in a matter of a few days or however long. I was always the person she'd go to when she felt the world was coming down on her. I was NOT her doormat through any of it and she showed me that sort of courtesy too. The foundation of our connection is all based on emotions and whatnot. It's pretty much out there that we feel strongly in general about a lot of things.

[QUOTE=Eriorguez;52266891]Okay, and, in an awkward note, dropping a "yeah, I used to have a crush on you a few years ago" wouldn't really make me lose friends, right? I know the answer, but I need a bit of external feedback with this particular issue, had some bad experiences that really stunted my growth in this aspect of my self-esteem.[/QUOTE] Nah I've done this before. For me it was this girl I met ~3 years ago, and I figured I mostly just had a crush on her because she was pretty much my only friend at the time (which is also why I didn't risk asking her out, in case it somehow alienated her) When I finally told her I USED TO have a thing for her, she was totally understanding... Maybe even to the point of smugness. She was like "Dude, it's ME, EVERYONE has a crush on me when we first meet."

So i've been exposed to Asbestos for 4 and a half days for 8 hours a day without proper protection because the guy who was leading the project took only a single sample instead of many. Long story short he took a sample but only on an area where there were no Asbestos and ignored the rest of the place. It was literally everywhere except that area he took the sample from. Now there is an on going investigation and everything feels so fucked up now.

[QUOTE=Bucketboy;52270402]So i've been exposed to Asbestos for 4 and a half days for 8 hours a day without proper protection because the guy who was leading the project took only a single sample instead of many. Long story short he took a sample but only on an area where there were no Asbestos and ignored the rest of the place. It was literally everywhere except that area he took the sample from. Now there is an on going investigation and everything feels so fucked up now.[/QUOTE] Not much you can do about it, but if that's all the exposure you get in your life you're probably going to be fine.

[QUOTE=metallics;52270424]Not much you can do about it, but if that's all the exposure you get in your life you're probably going to be fine.[/QUOTE] When you work in construction there is always a risk of getting asbestos in you without anyone knowing. But if i was not suspicions about the whole place then i would have been there for 6 weeks. That idiot risked my and my colleagues lives.

The summer after senior year of HS our friend group found out my bestfriend's SO (who was also in the group and a close friend of mine) was being an abusive, cheating, and manipulative asshole. We collectively go 'what the fuck, dump his ass', etc. There's a ton of drama during this time and she comes to me for emotional support as she's done before but this time we end up having sex. This event combined w/ how angry I got about her SO made me realize I loved her. So I fell in love with my best friend, fuck. She's been with this guy for a long time and ends up not fully breaking up with him, and essentially the rest of the group cuts her and the SO off. I'm stuck in the middle and about to go off to college and not sure what to do, but am extremely salty about how she refuses to cut ties completely with her SO, so once I leave I end up growing a bit distant from her, although we still messaged occasionally. An important note, both her and her ex stayed in the same place after HS. Throughout the year we kind of kept in contact, but there was a lot of tension. During breaks we still barely saw each other, but we slowly warmed up and began talking more. She broke up with the guy at some point officially. Then during spring break we end up having sex again and a lot of the tension dissipates, we talk things over, profess our love all that fluffy shit. To be clear, we've mutually agreed that we love each other multiple times in the past, but I don't know when that love moved from platonic to romantic. We didn't start a relationship or anything, since we recognized that things were complicated and we were going to college in different states, long distance, etc. I knew that her and her ex still remained friends which made me uncomfortable, but I didn't know the extent, and still don't. Either way, I get back for summer and she says that Saturday is her day off and hopefully we can see each other, etc. Cool, I dunno when she's gonna wake up so I'll wait and see if she messages me, otherwise I'll stop by her house. No message so I take care of some things and stop by her house in the afternoon, and her ex is there. They weren't doing anything, just hanging out, but still. She seems fairly nonchalant about seeing me. I hate the guy so I leave fairly quickly. So I don't know what the fuck is up. It's frustrating and emotionally draining. A large part of me feels like she's still caught up with her ex and that it's best for me to just cut myself off to not cause myself undue stress, and also because fuck the guy, but that's some petty shit and I know I should confront her and ask her what's going on. That was probably longer than intended but damn, it feels good to get it all out there.

[QUOTE=Repulsion;52271240]The summer after senior year of HS our friend group found out my bestfriend's SO (who was also in the group and a close friend of mine) was being an abusive, cheating, and manipulative asshole. We collectively go 'what the fuck, dump his ass', etc. There's a ton of drama during this time and she comes to me for emotional support as she's done before but this time we end up having sex. This event combined w/ how angry I got about her SO made me realize I loved her. So I fell in love with my best friend, fuck. She's been with this guy for a long time and ends up not fully breaking up with him, and essentially the rest of the group cuts her and the SO off. I'm stuck in the middle and about to go off to college and not sure what to do, but am extremely salty about how she refuses to cut ties completely with her SO, so once I leave I end up growing a bit distant from her, although we still messaged occasionally. An important note, both her and her ex stayed in the same place after HS. Throughout the year we kind of kept in contact, but there was a lot of tension. During breaks we still barely saw each other, but we slowly warmed up and began talking more. She broke up with the guy at some point officially. Then during spring break we end up having sex again and a lot of the tension dissipates, we talk things over, profess our love all that fluffy shit. To be clear, we've mutually agreed that we love each other multiple times in the past, but I don't know when that love moved from platonic to romantic. We didn't start a relationship or anything, since we recognized that things were complicated and we were going to college in different states, long distance, etc. I knew that her and her ex still remained friends which made me uncomfortable, but I didn't know the extent, and still don't. Either way, I get back for summer and she says that Saturday is her day off and hopefully we can see each other, etc. Cool, I dunno when she's gonna wake up so I'll wait and see if she messages me, otherwise I'll stop by her house. No message so I take care of some things and stop by her house in the afternoon, and her ex is there. They weren't doing anything, just hanging out, but still. She seems fairly nonchalant about seeing me. I hate the guy so I leave fairly quickly. So I don't know what the fuck is up. It's frustrating and emotionally draining. A large part of me feels like she's still caught up with her ex and that it's best for me to just cut myself off to not cause myself undue stress, and also because fuck the guy, but that's some petty shit and I know I should confront her and ask her what's going on. That was probably longer than intended but damn, it feels good to get it all out there.[/QUOTE] OK so, this might be a bit different for you with your friends but like... I never just drop by someones place without confirming a time or anything? Cause shit like that happens where someone is already over? But anyway that is sort of an aside. Honestly just like ask her where you both stand, probably talk it over cause she might not know either. You guys sound like your in a weird we both admit we like each other but haven't taken that relationship anywhere forward or backward kinda spot. So it sounds like it needs to be honestly discussed and work out what both of you want out of this and how compatible that is for both of you?

[QUOTE=AlexGT;52269888]What motivated me to be open about how I felt was her behavior to begin with. As I started to get comfortable with her, I realized that she did indeed like me but she wasn't really content with her feelings. The reason behind that (And she explained it to me) is because she's had awful experiences all around, and has an extreme aversion to somehow fucking everything up. She expressed that she felt as though nothing ever really works out and that she's afraid of commitment. She hasn't really had a stable life -- I'm pretty sure her family has contributed to a ton of it. I know what coming off too strong is. I didn't drag anything out or make it out to be the biggest thing in the world. She actually offered to video call me or whatever when I first brought it up, even when she knew what was coming. I cried because I still wanted to have a rewarding friendship with her, but didn't want to keep it all in, especially since she was giving me all sorts of indications that she liked me back. I didn't sob or weep or anything either, just teared up a bit because it was hard to articulate. By the end of the call we were both laughing and talking about something else entirely. Pretty much just left it at "Yeah man, I just think you're awesome and I appreciate who you are". I got the same thing back.[/QUOTE] Ok, in that case it didn't have anything to do with you so you can rest easy knowing you did everything you could and you have a good friend in her. [editline]25th May 2017[/editline] I went out with one of my classmates who has been working all over town as a chef yesterday, so we hit up 7 different bars almost for free. Anyways something funny happened. At one of the bars there were people at every table and since I was the first person through the door I went over to two random women asking if we could sit there with no ulterior motive. She says it's fine and starts hitting on me. After about 10 minutes of semi-drunk conversation I look around and see that my party is at another table, so I continue to talk to this woman and her friend for 40 minutes. Then her friend wants to go but the first woman says she wants to stay with me. The friend then says she must get home and won't go alone so the woman turns to me and asks me about my age. I say 24 and all she says is "ok, let's go" and Swoosh! I have never seen two women running out of a bar that fast :v:

Man online dating is absolute turd Same thing happened again, indepth conversation, big replies from both and suddenly she stops replying after a 30+ messages from both of us. Been 2 days now and still nothing. I know I'm not shooting out of my range and I know I'm conversing well Waiting for my sub to run out then getting rid of all them apps since fuck this noise