The Hungarian Revolution of 1956 - General

[QUOTE=ZuXer;25582804] [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/1956_hungarians_stalin_head.jpg[/img_thumb] Egyébként meg csá minden magyarnak.[/QUOTE] What am I looking at? I realize it's a man but I can't figure out what's wrong with him besides the neck.

[QUOTE=PN_Redux;25585730]What am I looking at? I realize it's a man but I can't figure out what's wrong with him besides the neck.[/QUOTE] It's Stalin, one of his many great statues fell over.

According to family history, my great grandfather died in the revolution when the soviet tanks randomly obliterated the house they lived in in downtown. Also, last year there was a really badass old guy visiting my high school who fought in the revolution. He was blind to both his eyes, because when some soviet soldiers cornered him and put him against the wall wanting to shoot him in the back of the head, he looked back at the soldier right when he pulled the trigger, and the bullet went through both his eyes sideways instead of splattering his brain all over the wall. He talked about the revolution and the revenge of the regime thereafter, and other things. Most badass man I've ever seen in my life. [editline]23rd October 2010[/editline] It is also worth noting how in the photograph, Stalin's destroyed statue has "W.C." written on its hollow head. :smug:

[QUOTE=GÃ©za!;25586105]According to family history, my great grandfather died in the revolution when the soviet tanks randomly obliterated the house they lived in in downtown. Also, last year there was a really badass old guy visiting my high school who fought in the revolution. He was blind to both his eyes, because when some soviet soldiers cornered him and put him against the wall wanting to shoot him in the back of the head, he looked back at the soldier right when he pulled the trigger, and the bullet went through both his eyes sideways instead of splattering his brain all over the wall. He talked about the revolution and the revenge of the regime thereafter, and other things. Most badass man I've ever seen in my life. [editline]23rd October 2010[/editline] It is also worth noting how in the photograph, Stalin's destroyed statue has "W.C." written on its hollow head. :smug:[/QUOTE] Grat a goldhoz gézukám :buddy: [QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25585395]Thing is, Hungary is more directly related with the Soviet Union than Vietnam in terms of political relations and geography. Intervention in Hungary would be a far more direct threat to the Soviet Union than intervention in Vietnam ever could have been. One needs to remember that Eastern Europe at the time was seen by the Soviets as, first and foremost, the Soviet Union's buffer region against the West; prompted into being mainly by the mass destruction wreaked against it by Nazi Germany. By comparison of importance, the Soviet Union couldn't give a shit about Vietnam. If the revolution had been stronger and lasted longer, it's possible the West may have aided them with weapons and other equipment, but direct military intervention would have been out of the question, even though this was before and ICBMs were the main form of nuclear weapons delivery, and therefore before MAD. (before the start of the 60s nuclear-carrying bombers were the main form of delivery)[/QUOTE] Well yeah, that makes sense, but they could have help us in a diplomatic way, putting pressure on them, you know.

Fuck the Hungarian revolution they should have not resisted our glorious soviet leaders.

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;25586603]Fuck the Hungarian revolution they should have not resisted our glorious soviet leaders.[/QUOTE] :sigh: every hungarian wants to kill and main and burn you now, me first.

[QUOTE=Egevened;25586627]:sigh: every hungarian wants to kill and main and burn you now, me first.[/QUOTE] Yeah, old nomadic heritage.

[QUOTE=GÃ©za!;25586634]Yeah, old nomadic heritage.[/QUOTE] after that we sleep in tents and smoke grass PEn1s lol, get my horse

[QUOTE=ZuXer;25586364]Well yeah, that makes sense, but they could have help us in a diplomatic way, putting pressure on them, you know.[/QUOTE] We spent about 40 years putting pressure on them.

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As a Trotskyite, I salute the Hungarian revolutionaries. Too bad it was crushed like so many other revolts.

[QUOTE=ZuXer;25582998]Most pepole thinks that too, I mean it is pretty obvious, but they did interfere in Vietnam. Makes you think what if the revolution took place a few months later, would the West help?[/QUOTE] Vietnam wasn't a direct conflict with Russia. Going into Hungary would be.

I'm glad Romania wasn't run by soviets, though we were a communist state. Though we became democratic after the revolution of 1989 :buddy:

[QUOTE=ZuXer;25584548]Where are you from? [editline]23rd October 2010[/editline] Stop trolling the thread, jeez.[/QUOTE] Los Angeles

[QUOTE=ZuXer;25586364]Well yeah, that makes sense, but they could have help us in a diplomatic way, putting pressure on them, you know.[/QUOTE]I don't think you quite grasp how sensitive a situation it was. There are very few ways the West could have intervened meaningfully to help the revolution without provoking a possible war, political pressure would not have helped. Trade between East and West was already kaput, so economic pressure is out of the question. The UN would also not have been of much use, considering other Communist nations would've voted against any resolution that even so much as meant to sent an angry letter to Khrushchev. East and West had no meaningful connections that could have been leveraged. It was a really shitty deal, but there was nothing that could be done.