• What is Wrong with my car??
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[QUOTE=joe588;23610928]Your engine is fucked. The oil pump probably went bang, you now have a knocking rod or a broken shell etc. You need a new engine. Sound like this? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcN6jbEnTI[/url] Also what the hell is a serpentine belt? Do you mean timing belt?[/QUOTE] A serpentine belt is the belt which drives your accessories in a single belt system. Its turns your alternator, AC pump, Power Steering pump, ext. You timing belt is in a completely unrelated part of the engine. The serpentine belt was likely replaced because they had to remove it and the accessories to remove the head, and since it was already off and is cheap might as well replace with a new one.
[QUOTE=will721;23610067] To those of you who have said that it was the mechanics doing. I would like to assure you all that it is quite unlikely. Mechanics these days are not people working out of their home garages anymore. Proper certification is required just to get hired into most garages these days.[/QUOTE] Mechanics can and will fuck up from time to time. One time I had to put a new ignition control module in, but I didn't feel like fucking with the distributor (there's so little room to work in on this thing you have to take the distributor out to replace the module) so I took it down to a mechanic and, after spending like half an hour arguing with the guy that "YES, this it the CORRECT part", he finally agreed to put it in. Few days later, he calls and says my little bastard wagon is done. I go down there, start it up, and it's running as bad/worse then before. So I took it down to ANOTHER shop, and it turns out that the first guy put the distributor back in with it off by one tooth. :/
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;23615815]Mechanics can and will fuck up from time to time. One time I had to put a new ignition control module in, but I didn't feel like fucking with the distributor (there's so little room to work in on this thing you have to take the distributor out to replace the module) so I took it down to a mechanic and, after spending like half an hour arguing with the guy that "YES, this it the CORRECT part", he finally agreed to put it in. Few days later, he calls and says my little bastard wagon is done. I go down there, start it up, and it's running as bad/worse then before. So I took it down to ANOTHER shop, and it turns out that the first guy put the distributor back in with it off by one tooth. :/[/QUOTE] Working with distributors is a bit tricky yes. You cannot make it off by one tooth though. When you put them back in you actually slide them all the way into place then you have to turn them until your timing is correct. It is very difficult to do and must be done with a timing light. Most schools no longer teach how to properly time a distributor anymore so it is not really his fault. I don't believe it is even on the ASE certification tests anymore. I will agree with you here that was a mistake.
Wow stop fixing it and buy a new car, if the engine is knocking after all those repairs you'll likely be paying more for repairs than that car is worth. 90's Pontiac engines are shit to begin with. Make sure you research a car you're interested in buying so you know what to expect next time. Personally I play it safe and buy older Toyota or Honda. I have a Honda Accord 1992 for 5 years now and I haven't replaced anything other than a belt and its approaching 200k kilometers.
Buy an older Subaru. You will not be disappointed. And yes, it sounds like the oil pump died and you broke a rod.
The mechanic broke another piece of the car so you would come back and spend more money.
[QUOTE=64fanatic;23618113]Wow stop fixing it and buy a new car, if the engine is knocking after all those repairs you'll likely be paying more for repairs than that car is worth. 90's Pontiac engines are shit to begin with. Make sure you research a car you're interested in buying so you know what to expect next time. Personally I play it safe and buy older Toyota or Honda. I have a Honda Accord 1992 for 5 years now and I haven't replaced anything other than a belt and its approaching 200k kilometers.[/QUOTE] Or, he could buy something thats not crap and buy a ford or a dodge. I have owned Fords, Dodges, and Toyotas. I will never buy another Toyota. I will use my 2 Ford Rangers, my Dakota, and my Toyota as an example: My first ranger was an 88. It has 220,000 miles on it. It was harshly abused in its life before I got it, and trust me I abused it a lot too. Most if not all the parts I replaced on it were my own fault. I limped it home one day on 4 of the 6 cylinders. Fixed it back up and it didn't even flinch. I drove it hard, did burnouts, drifted around corners. I took it in the mud and ran it full throttle. That truck was by definition a TANK. I wish I had never sold it but I needed the money and we all know how that goes... I had a 1994 Dodge Dakota. That thing was a beast. It was a work truck all its life and when I owned it that was no exception. We hauled things in that beast you wouldn't believe. A lot of the time we well exceeded its payload on several occasions. The reason we sold it was because one day I was driving home with a full load of mulch when the temp guage spiked. I had blew a radiator hose. Wasn't gonna stop that truck, I drove it 20 minutes home without an ounce of coolant. Burned a bit of oil afterward but it was time to move on anyway. It had 240,000 miles when I sold it. Now we get to the Toyota. Was a nice little machine I suppose. 4cyl, 5 speed. Except for the rust issues (All toyotas have them bad) it wasn't a bad truck. Wouldn't drive my gf in it since it was so damn Bumpy it made her tits hurt. Sold it after the springs shot right through the frame on both sides. Toyota is still releasing recalls on a few vehicles for rust issues. It had 95,000 miles when I sold it. Last but not least is my current truck. My 1994 ford ranger. I have put more time into this thing than any other vehicle I own. It has a whole new custom front end, custom tails, lift kit, cb, custom audio, with a few mechanical glitches touched up. I drive that thing like I stole it everyday. I would not hesitate to drive from here in the midwest straight to the east coast, then to the west coast, and back again. It has 190,000 miles on it. Not like you could tell just by how smooth she runs and how much power she has. I speak of trucks because I always recommend to people that they buy one. The convenience of having one is like no other. Their safer than driving cars anyway. But let me warn you, once you buy one you will always have on for the rest of your life. But don't let my bias keep you from getting that shiny new piece of shit fwd Honda you always wanted.... [editline]06:24PM[/editline] [QUOTE=>VLN<;23618374]Buy an older Subaru. You will not be disappointed. And yes, it sounds like the oil pump died and you broke a rod.[/QUOTE] Don't listen to him, has has no idea what he is talking about. If you broke a rod not only would the car not run, but it would create a giant hole in the side of your engine where it rammed through. [editline]06:27PM[/editline] Btw I hate everything front wheel drive with a passion. So I am sorry to those of you who enjoy your Hondas, Toyotas, Hyundai, Pontiacs, and the like. [editline]06:28PM[/editline] Before I forget this time I will comment on the oil pump. It is not likely that it is the oil pump for one simple reason. Its oil pressure spikes. It is non existent. It is unlikely to be the oil pump, but who knows...
Was Gary Numan in your Car? Serious note: Your engine is dead.
HUZZAH for automerge!
Will, do you not realize that Subaru's are AWD and the newer models have override for continuous 4WD? They aren't you typical Japanese car and the way it seems, his oil was not moving around, and it broke a rod or bent a rod and now its knocking. Note: "ROD Knocking"
[QUOTE=64fanatic;23618113] 90's Pontiac engines are shit to begin with. [/QUOTE] uh, the 3.8l v6 in that car was and still is known as one of the top 5 best 6 cylinders in history
[QUOTE=edberg;23611023]oil pump wemt, you kept driving it starved of oil until you spun a bearing good job brosef [editline]09:21AM[/editline] also take that 1200$ and buy yourself something nice, import 4bangers are bulletproof[/QUOTE] This man is most likely correct. But other people are not. If it is a 3.8 V6 it is one of the best V6 engines of all time. and also someone said pontiac engines in the 90's are shit, the last engine pontiac designed itself was the turbo 4.9L V8 in the 80-81 Trans Ams. All other engines after that are borrowed from chevy or buick. This 3.8L is a buick engine. Andd please dont buy an import 4 banger. If you want everyone to think you are a retard that is the way to do it...
import 4's are very reliable and easy to work on too, why would you not get them? almost any part is cheap and easy to find and honestly at home repairs are not a big deal
Yes, but they sound like weed wackers and I can beat one in the 1/4th mile on my lawn tractor.
Most likely the head gasket didn't get replaced correctly or the spark plugs need adjustment. Sounds like the fuel isn't burnt corectly, too late and rests of fuel build up in the chambers, forcing the other ones to use more. Get to a mechanic asap, you're destroying the motor.
the oil sending unit could have gone bad. The squeal is the serpentine belt, it needs to be tightened. One of the rods sounds like it's knocking, get some better spark plugs and then drive the hell out of the car for like 30 or 40 miles. If that doesn't work I'd say oil pump. [editline]03:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Pictrkol3;23619965]This man is most likely correct. But other people are not. If it is a 3.8 V6 it is one of the best V6 engines of all time. and also someone said pontiac engines in the 90's are shit, the last engine pontiac designed itself was the turbo 4.9L V8 in the 80-81 Trans Ams. All other engines after that are borrowed from chevy or buick. This 3.8L is a buick engine. Andd please dont buy an import 4 banger. If you want everyone to think you are a retard that is the way to do it...[/QUOTE] Yes the 3800 is a great engine, the only problem it had was a crappy head gasket which wouldn't have a problem if it wasn't for Dexcool. Oh and the AMC 242 4.0 (H.O, not Renix) is like one of the most bullet proof engines of all time. You can find those in a lot of 90s Jeeps.
[QUOTE=Pictrkol3;23620104]Yes, but they sound like weed wackers and I can beat one in the 1/4th mile on my lawn tractor.[/QUOTE] i bet they get better mileage than your lawn tractor, who gives a shit about 1/4 mile anyways? i would rather have a higher top speed... i am just saying, as a daily driver imports are best
[QUOTE=ghostfais;23620417]i bet they get better mileage than your lawn tractor, who gives a shit about 1/4 mile anyways? i would rather have a higher top speed... i am just saying, as a daily driver imports are best[/QUOTE] Wrong. Some American sedans are a little larger and get better gas mileage than the equivalent import. It's all stereotypes. Oh and I'm a mechanic and I see a lot of both, so I know what I'm talking about. [editline]03:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;23620157]Most likely the head gasket didn't get replaced correctly or the spark plugs need adjustment. Sounds like the fuel isn't burnt corectly, too late and rests of fuel build up in the chambers, forcing the other ones to use more. Get to a mechanic asap, you're destroying the motor.[/QUOTE] If the head gasket didn't get replace correctly it would just lead to more coolant/oil combined in the oil pan which would take a while to happen. Spark plugs can't really be adjusted, just tightened and as long as they are a little more than hand tight, they should be fine. The oil pump could be shot from the collant that went through there from the last blown gasket and that would explain low oil pressure and knocks.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;23618786]Will, do you not realize that Subaru's are AWD and the newer models have override for continuous 4WD? They aren't you typical Japanese car and the way it seems, his oil was not moving around, and it broke a rod or bent a rod and now its knocking. Note: "ROD Knocking"[/QUOTE] The sound of a rodknock actually doesn't come from the rod at all. A rod knock actually comes from the bearings. When you over stress a motor you can actually make the bearings out of round causing them to smack back and forth against the crank shaft. If he bent a piston rod the motor would not run, it would immediately sieze. If he broke a piston rod the engine again would not run and the rod would be forced through the cylinder block and out of the motor. I don't know where you are getting your information from but it is incorrect. I never said I had a problem with Subaru, and I know they are AWD. Only actual problems I have with the company is their marketing. They market the outback and other models as off highway capable when they aren't. But thats beside the point. [editline]09:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=RusMar;23620470]Wrong. Some American sedans are a little larger and get better gas mileage than the equivalent import. It's all stereotypes. Oh and I'm a mechanic and I see a lot of both, so I know what I'm talking about. [editline]03:42PM[/editline] If the head gasket didn't get replace correctly it would just lead to more coolant/oil combined in the oil pan which would take a while to happen. Spark plugs can't really be adjusted, just tightened and as long as they are a little more than hand tight, they should be fine. The oil pump could be shot from the collant that went through there from the last blown gasket and that would explain low oil pressure and knocks.[/QUOTE] I agree with you 100% but it really is hard to judge without us being there. I don't know how long you ran it with a bad head gasket. But if it ran long enough with coolant in the oil, the lubrication might have been poor enough to cause you to spin a main bearing causing the knock. When you check your oil is it a clean yellowish or black? Or does it look a bit like chocolate milk?
If its starting to turn a milky color that could be a sign of a misplaced gasket. [B]Edit:[/B] LOL no automerge...
Uhh, they have higher clearance to the ground than other Japanese cars and have AWD which makes them better handle offroading.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;23623129]Uhh, they have higher clearance to the ground than other Japanese cars and have AWD which makes them better handle offroading.[/QUOTE] Ok Mr.Subaru, tell ya what we will take your Subaru out for some fun and I'll bring a towstrap with my truck. I'll bring a stopwatch to see how long it takes you to get that POS stuck in the mud.
[QUOTE=RusMar;23620470]Wrong. Some American sedans are a little larger and get better gas mileage than the equivalent import.[/QUOTE] On paper, yes. But this is actually due to momentum and it's weight. I drive a '01 Pontiac Grand Am, and although on paper it gets 29 MPG on highway, it gets 19 in the city. Only reason it does well on the highway is because once it gets up to speed, momentum helps that car a lot. I be lucky to get 22 on average. On smaller imports, its harder to keep momentum since they are light, but they don't suck up as much fuel trying to get up to speed. And yes, I only have the 4 cylinder. I do not have the GT version.
Well, I took some video. Not much, but there wasn't going to be too much alteration until it drove quite a while. You can hear a much louder ping or two when the car first starts up. That, plus a squeal, is what I hear after the oil pressure goes back down to nothing. It held in the video, but mark me, the pressure just goes down until it vanishes after a minute or two. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V62AEUskpOI[/url] The HD might be a bit excessive for a video like this, but it should give you the best idea I can give you without you actually being here.
You really need to bring that car back to the place you had it serviced. Press it to them and have them TOW IT. DO NOT drive it. [editline]03:38PM[/editline] That car looks brand new.
Sounds like valvetrain to me. If the oil pump was bad I think it would have droped immediately there shouldn't be a delay. Does that wine get louder when you crank the wheel? Almost sounds like the power steering. [editline]11:27PM[/editline] Sounds like lifters are dry actually. You supposed to pump them up with oil before you put them back in when you remove the heads. If you don't they can become damaged when you start the car since they don't pump up right away. [editline]11:28PM[/editline] Once they are damaged they won't pump up correctly again either.
Nah, I've had the power steering go bad before, and I KNOW what that sounds like. Always fixed with a good oil change, back when they were few and far between. Don't honestly know how what they did fixed the whine, but it hasn't been a problem for a long time and I know what the power steering whine of this car sounds like. So if these lifters didn't get oiled in my headgasket repair, and that's why it's gone bad, would that constitute the mechanics paying for the damage, even if it were significant? I hate that I'm hoping to burn these guys to get my car up and running again, they seemed like alright hard working folks...
I don't understand why you'd ask facepunch for help with your car, your computer is a different story.
[QUOTE=Niko Bellic;23637009]I don't understand why you'd ask facepunch for help with your car, your computer is a different story.[/QUOTE] Because out of the thousands of users, at least one (will721) will know what he's talking about
I sure hope you went to a shop to put the 1200 repair in there (head gaskets, normal fluid change, accessory/serpatine belt). because now you got a rod knock, bad compression.. and other issues it so seems. Take it back to them, and tell them to repair the issue or expect a lawsuit.
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