Building my own nation - General

"you got your capital in the united states so it's a common wealth thanks" and then you just built the US a nice military base

[QUOTE=Tools;20383216]You can't register a new country, unless you can proof that it's excisted for quite some time. You'd be better off buying a country, and then rebuilding it. I say buy a poor african country, and introduce it to the 21th century.[/QUOTE] Actually, if you get hold of an island in international waters, you can claim it as your own nation entirely legally. I can't remember the name of the law, but it's the way Sealand is technically a legal nation. You can become internationally recognized. Since Sealand worked, and that's artificial, so possibly an oil rig could also be used. We just need billions of dollars to build one.

Can I be a hobo on your island please?

Your name suggests you are an emperor. Empires never last.

I like where this is going, can I be in charge of something too?

Sorry to burst your bubble but, According to the 1982 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea"]United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea[/URL], there is no transitional law and no possibility to consent to the existence of a construction which was previously approved or built by a neighboring state. This means that [B]artificial islands may no longer be constructed and then claimed as sovereign states[/B], [B]or as state territories[/B], for the purposes of extension of an exclusive economic zone or of territorial waters. I mean you could do it. But you would pretty much be a pirate nation. And if your "empire" comes off as a threatening body enjoy being outcast from western civilization. No country would offically recognize you and therefore you would not be a sovereign nation. Counties could walk all over you and totally disregard your rule. If your in the Caribbean it's possible a Caribbean state could just annex/invade you.

Awesome, I'll join if I have enough money at the time.

general gaius raccoon scipius

Last summer I actually made a plan of my own , rather than making islands I wanted to buy a corrupt 3rd world country and work my way up, although it will cost a shitload of money, I could easily take advantage of everything, so spend selfish government money on schools, tourist attractions, hospitals, etc. instead of putting it in my pocket, and after establishing a livable country, talk to U.N. officials for support seeing as my country apparently will wage war against no other country, all the while i'm secretly training an army in a distant location. I'll have open borders with other countries and allow everyone who wants to come a free passport and citizenship, no exceptions, just to build up a population, and sure enough, eventually expand into other 3rd world countries around us , these island you think you can make, where will they get resources from? why would someone invest in your island, when there are no residents? Another country could easily take you over seeing as you have to military, your currency will not be recognized by the rest of the world

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20381594]Criminals will be taking three miles out to sea blinded folded and forced to walk the plank in traditional fashion. If they manage to find out which direction the island is, and survive the swim back, they will be pardoned.[/QUOTE] So only the strongest criminals survive Good plan. [editline]10:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE='-[ Fizzadar ]-;20382267']Also, you could buy Sealand which is technically a separate country despite being inside British waters.[/QUOTE] It's not a seperate country. They claim to be, but we could literally make them disappear.

I'll be a hooker.

You can take over Haiti.

Just take Haiti or something, no one needs it. [editline]04:52PM[/editline] Fuck

[QUOTE=Beartato;20384391]Can I be a hobo on your island please?[/QUOTE] Sure, you can be a tourist sight. [QUOTE=OvB;20384964]Sorry to burst your bubble but, According to the 1982 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea"]United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea[/URL], there is no transitional law and no possibility to consent to the existence of a construction which was previously approved or built by a neighboring state. This means that [B]artificial islands may no longer be constructed and then claimed as sovereign states[/B], [B]or as state territories[/B], for the purposes of extension of an exclusive economic zone or of territorial waters. I mean you could do it. But you would pretty much be a pirate nation. And if your "empire" comes off as a threatening body enjoy being outcast from western civilization. No country would offically recognize you and therefore you would not be a sovereign nation. Counties could walk all over you and totally disregard your rule. If your in the Caribbean it's possible a Caribbean state could just annex/invade you.[/QUOTE] Well fuck. A pirate nation won't be [i]so[/i] bad though. No drinking age limit! And I won't be threatening....at first. [QUOTE=ForTehWolf...2!;20386019]Last summer I actually made a plan of my own , rather than making islands I wanted to buy a corrupt 3rd world country and work my way up, although it will cost a shitload of money, I could easily take advantage of everything, so spend selfish government money on schools, tourist attractions, hospitals, etc. instead of putting it in my pocket, and after establishing a livable country, talk to U.N. officials for support seeing as my country apparently will wage war against no other country, all the while i'm secretly training an army in a distant location. I'll have open borders with other countries and allow everyone who wants to come a free passport and citizenship, no exceptions, just to build up a population, and sure enough, eventually expand into other 3rd world countries around us , these island you think you can make, where will they get resources from? why would someone invest in your island, when there are no residents? Another country could easily take you over seeing as you have to military, your currency will not be recognized by the rest of the world[/QUOTE] At first it will be a business venture as a tourist location in the middle of the ocean, where there are no restrictions or laws but our own given that we'll be in international waters. You seem to of thought this out well, care to be business partners? [QUOTE=Asaratha;20386058]Will there be states?[/QUOTE] Too small to have states. Unless we take over other island nations. Then they will be our states! [QUOTE=lazyguy;20386062]So only the strongest criminals survive Good plan. [/QUOTE] Won't be a very big island, and we'll be watching the shores of where they wash up. If they wash up. [QUOTE=Stupideye;20386138]I'll be a hooker.[/QUOTE] Go for it. There will be registered brothels. But to be on the safe side, each prostitute will have to go through monthly doctor check ups to make sure they are perfectly healthy.

I don't like you're nation because it's a monarchy.

OP, have you ever heard of the Jim Jones incident during the 70's? I think you should look into it... Perhaps the mass suicide of 900 people rings a bell?

[QUOTE=Dr Pepper;20386913]I don't like you're nation because it's a monarchy.[/QUOTE] I know *I* will be lenient. Don't believe me, don't move there the first few years and see how well it goes. If it seems peaceful, come on over! Business will be good! [QUOTE=freighter014;20386956]OP, have you ever heard of the Jim Jones incident during the 70's? I think you should look into it... Perhaps the mass suicide of 900 people rings a bell?[/QUOTE] I'm asking for my own nation to rule, not a cult to worship me. Freedom of religion for all!

My nation is my Bedroom. It is an absolute monarchy. It has a food supply maintained by foreign markets and electricity provided by foreign suppliers. My nation is dependent on foreign products and it does contain a bank of $200.00 of quarters and it has a natural resource of Marijuana that fetches an income of my nation of at least $100.00 a week. [sp]just kidding about the weed[/sp]

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;20387644]My nation is my Bedroom. It is an absolute monarchy. It has a food supply maintained by foreign markets and electricity provided by foreign suppliers. My nation is dependent on foreign products and it does contain a bank of $200.00 of quarters and it has a natural resource of Marijuana that fetches an income of my nation of at least $100.00 a week. [sp]just kidding about the weed[/sp][/QUOTE] International waters means Marijuana could be our main export and cash crop. :2bong:

If you make a business venture in International waters, your going to have the UN breathing down your back. Unless you were Super fucking rich, like 10 digits it would be hard. But possible. The question is, how are you going to make said money before you even start your super tourist trap? I've often thought of making my own island port so people could not bother me in my works, as I plan on getting a Ph.D in Marine Biology. I've also had aspirations to make a giant Aquarium, that will hopefully take the "Worlds Biggest" status. This I actually plan to do, and is not as far-fetched as the island. It all depends on how things go in the future.

[QUOTE=OvB;20389909]If you make a business venture in International waters, your going to have the UN breathing down your back. Unless you were Super fucking rich, like 10 digits it would be hard. But possible. The question is, how are you going to make said money before you even start your super tourist trap? I've often thought of making my own island port so people could not bother me in my works, as I plan on getting a Ph.D in Marine Biology. I've also had aspirations to make a giant Aquarium, that will hopefully take the "Worlds Biggest" status. This I actually plan to do, and is not as far-fetched as the island. It all depends on how things go in the future.[/QUOTE] If the tourist and nation plan fails, and there's still an island there, you can have for your research. Of course, if it fails, I'll most likely be a wanted man, so....mind if I camp along?

Can I be CEO of Burgers? Or CEO of Fat kids? Also I would like to buy the weed your smoking off of you.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20381076]I'm sure everyone here has thought of what it would be like ruling your own nation, or building an empire or creating a micro nation. But what about getting to that point? I've created a plan to build my own nation and from scratch. Thought it would make an interesting discussion piece here in the GD. Now, I think this plan is somewhat [I]plausible[/I], but extremely improbable to actually put through. =-=-=-=-=-= [U]Step I - Physical Development[/U] -Amass enough person wealth and/or contract investors to have capital for project. -Hire engineers to design an artificial island that can be built in international waters; preferable region being the Caribbean. Have roughly 3-5 square miles of land in this area. Land should be able to sustain plant life. -Put landscapers onto artificial island to make more aesthetically pleasing and scenic. [U]Step II - Population and Economic Growth[/U] All nations need one key object for existence - People. -Build resorts for tourism; Resorts will create jobs for foreign unemployed. -Resorts will need plumbing/food/housing for employees. -Housing needs markets for food and so forth. -As with any beginning business, running at a loss is expected for a period; hopefully economic growth will begin before the need to abandon the project. -Community growth should ensue [U]Step III - Administration and Transition from Business Venture to Nationhood[/U] -As the "CEO"/Leader of venture; I will guide the island's growth, and paying the investors their returns -A security force will be hired then nationalized which will serve both as the police force and military -Given that this is in international waters, independence from investors will be declared after enough economic security has been created to where reliance on them is no longer needed. -I proclaim myself Emperor (What other title is better?) and rule justly and leniently across the island. [U]Step IV - Future of Nation[/U] -Strong uniquely created culture will be emphasized and built upon to create national unity among citizens -Government will focus development on tourism and physical expansion of artificial land. -Years later, as population and economy is strong and well built, begin military conquest of neighboring small Caribbean islands (It'll be an empire after all, and what empire is not imperialistic?) =-=-=-=-=-= So that's the eccentric idea I've come up with to create my own nation. Could it work? Possibly, but I highly doubt anyone could get the right winds to blow in the right direction to get it really working. Go ahead and discuss my idea/own ideas/thoughts on making your own nation.[/QUOTE] get a life

I'd take over a pacifist country then slowly take over the rest of the world with propaganda and threats. At least start with a country that can't defend its self.

Name it Georgia so we can confused even more people if we get in a war.

[QUOTE=arock82;20383347]You should invade Cuba first. -then you can use it to farm and generate your own food supply. +cuba is dumb anyway P.S. Can I be in charge of your airforce? because we're gona have some sweet planes and crap. or maybe I could produce weapons/tech for the army?[/QUOTE] The U.N. will be pissed, that means: No foreign TV No foreign Porn No foreign Internets No Visitors Unless the U.N. agrees that cuba is gay

What happens if your police force start an overthrow of you?

[QUOTE=Detective P;20390286]What happens if your police force start an overthrow of you?[/QUOTE] Then you'd make the police force for citizens but for this to work you'd have to make them fear and love you. Ones that cannot think for them selves and agree with you 100% of the time (i.e [I]1984[/I]).

[QUOTE=Neo-Asshole2;20390055]get a life[/QUOTE] Get some humor.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20389956]If the tourist and nation plan fails, and there's still an island there, you can have for your research. Of course, if it fails, I'll most likely be a wanted man, so....mind if I camp along?[/QUOTE] Have you seen Jurassic Park? [editline]07:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Detective P;20390286]What happens if your police force start an overthrow of you?[/QUOTE] Give them hookers. We would have to be filthy rich for this to work, we would probably have enough money to keep everyone who wants to live there happy.