Sex, Girlfriends and Shit VII: "Power Moves For High Quality Women" - General

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50813341]Is it [I]completely[/I] subjective? [/quote] Yea, cause if it wasn't then homosexuality and bestiality and a bunch of other shit like that wouldn't exist. [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50813341] If it is, it's odd that a lot of people have common ideas of what attractiveness is. I don't know if that's society or just ingrained in the head or what, but there has to be some sort of objectiveness to keep those common ideas together. An example being the attractiveness of symmetry in the face.[/QUOTE] It's a combination of both, but still, it's completely subjective. Your mind has a idea of what an attractive woman should look like, and it's all instinctual shit. Shit like wide hips for given birth to babies and big tits for healthy breast milk production, but again, all thats subjective. A lot of guys don't adhere to that at all, myself included. I know a dood who only likes girls who look really homely and have met another guy who only dates girls who are cross eyed. Obviously some guys like small tits and some guys like slender waists, it's all completely subjective. Not all men even find women attractive; thats why we have Gay people, and not even they all universally agree and what is attractive to them. Attractiveness is completely and entirely subjective.

Like past a certain point your body starts to get damaged from being overweight, both aesthetically and internally. It's not like how people romantacize it with fat people just being "fluffy" with otherwise-good skin, they get all fucked up.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50813417]Yea, cause if it wasn't then homosexuality and bestiality and a bunch of other shit like that wouldn't exist. It's a combination of both, but still, it's completely subjective. Your mind has a idea of what an attractive woman should look like, and it's all instinctual shit. Shit like wide hips for given birth to babies and big tits for healthy breast milk production, but again, all thats subjective. A lot of guys don't adhere to that at all, myself included. I know a dood who only likes girls who look really homely and have met another guy who only dates girls who are cross eyed. Obviously some guys like small tits and some guys like slender waists, it's all completely subjective. Not all men even find women attractive; thats why we have Gay people, and not even they all universally agree and what is attractive to them. Attractiveness is completely and entirely subjective.[/QUOTE] Something is not "completely subjective" when there are data on tendencies within different demographics.

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;50813504]Something is not "completely subjective" when there are data on tendencies within different demographics.[/QUOTE] So you're saying different groups have different tendencies in what they find attractive? So different people prefer different things? So you're saying it's completely subjective.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50813515]So you're saying different groups have different tendencies in what they find attractive? So different people prefer different things? So you're saying it's completely subjective.[/QUOTE] It's still subjective, but saying it's "completely subjective" is the equivalent of saying your sex, genes, and culture have no bearing on your preferences. "Subjective" refers to choices on an individual level.

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;50813521]It's still subjective, but saying it's "completely subjective" is the equivalent of saying your sex, genes, and culture have no bearing on your preferences. "Subjective" refers to choices on an individual level.[/QUOTE] No? If that were the case then nothing would be subjective because every single choice you make is affected to a degree by those things.

[QUOTE=phygon;50813528]No? If that were the case then nothing would be subjective because every single choice you make is affected to a degree by those things.[/QUOTE] Congratulations, you figured it out

Big thanks to Guy Manly, bringing the typical inane semantic bullshit to the thread as per the norm.

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;50813538]Congratulations, you figured it out[/QUOTE] Congratulations, according to your bizarre definition nothing is subjective. However, the word exists and describes a thing that happens, which means that your definition is wrong.

[QUOTE=phygon;50813564]Congratulations, according to your bizarre definition nothing is subjective. However, the word exists and describes a thing that happens, which means that your definition is wrong.[/QUOTE] Putting aside your implication that because a word exists, its content must be real... "subjective" is a concept. It's impossible for something to be completely subjective, it's just one end of a spectrum. [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50813575]Guy Mannly, just want to say your opinion and posts are mad respected in this thread[/QUOTE] Thank you, I'm glad to hear I'm not pissing everyone here off right now.

Regardless if there's a "normal" perception of what is attractive, it doesn't make an attraction towards someone outside of that "normal" spectrum any less valid than regular attraction. Like if someone thinks a certain body type that isn't thin or fit is attractive then just... let them be... There's literally no part of that that affects anyone outside of that relationship and saying "well yeah he finds those whales attractive it's pretty wild" or anything to that degree is pointlessly rude imo.

Fat girls dont care who lookin all they wanna know is damn who cookin? Big girl,big job, big salary. big girls don't care about calories

[QUOTE=Pascall;50813698]Regardless if there's a "normal" perception of what is attractive, it doesn't make an attraction towards someone outside of that "normal" spectrum any less valid than regular attraction. Like if someone thinks a certain body type that isn't thin or fit is attractive then just... let them be... There's literally no part of that that affects anyone outside of that relationship and saying "well yeah he finds those whales attractive it's pretty wild" or anything to that degree is pointlessly rude imo.[/QUOTE] Literally nobody here is saying that though.

No, but the entire page of debate as to whether or not obese people can be attractive was unnecessary because it doesn't matter.

You know, when I read about drama in this thread, it's usually between a person and their lover, not between Facepunch on fat people, but I digress. On topic, it's nothing too big right now, but my girlfriend's safety bothers me. I kind of get paranoid a bit when she doesn't talk to me for days (reasonably so, we talk like almost every day or every other day), but it's because of like an incident that happened to her about a month ago where she ended up in a hospital. But like I said, that's a month ago and her wounds should have healed by now. Still, I can't help but feel worried for her every waking moment that something bad might happen to her again. Am I just paranoid or is it reasonable to still be worried at this time?

[QUOTE=PsycheClops;50815023]You know, when I read about drama in this thread, it's usually between a person and their lover, not between Facepunch on fat people, but I digress. On topic, it's nothing too big right now, but my girlfriend's safety bothers me. I kind of get paranoid a bit when she doesn't talk to me for days (reasonably so, we talk like almost every day or every other day), but it's because of like an incident that happened to her about a month ago where she ended up in a hospital. But like I said, that's a month ago and her wounds should have healed by now. Still, I can't help but feel worried for her every waking moment that something bad might happen to her again. Am I just paranoid or is it reasonable to still be worried at this time?[/QUOTE] Well that depends entirely on how she ended up in the hospital. For the average person, a hospital visit is pretty rare (I've never been admitted to one myself) so I almost never worry about [i]anyone[/i] I know ending up in a hospital. But I'm guessing these are not average circumstances so I have no idea what to tell you.

So my brother moved into a new place and got a roommate who's 18 and I was over there hanging out with him right after he'd moved in and saw her a couple times. Seemed nice. Decided maybe I'd try to get her number and go out for coffee or something, I can respect a gal that young moving out and going to college and stuff, seems like a chill person. But I'm a nervous 19 yo that has no real experience with dating (I've only had one real relationship, lasted 2.5 years and we just went from friends into a relationship, no real dating) so I was too nervous to ask her then and there. Later on my brother and his friend decide they want to go to the strip club so I offered to drive them since I hadn't had anything to drink, so I took my brother's car and dropped them off and brought it back to his place so I could get my motorcycle. As I was getting my gear on in his car I saw the light inside his flick on for a moment and then off and I knew it was his roommate so in a sudden surge of confidence I went over to the door and knocked, she answered, I suggested coffee or something, she said her schedule was busy so we'd have to figure something out, I got her number so we could plan something, sent her a message so she had my number. This was at... Just before midnight, and I realized the next day it looked like I had been stalking her. Whatever the case I sent her a simple "Hey there" in the morning to kinda start some sort of conversation, no response, sent one in the evening asking if she still wanted to do something, no response. Finally in a nervous awkward moment over this cute girl sent her a last ditch one saying that maybe I came off wrong since it looks like I was stalking her but I was actually there for a good reason and that hopefully we could get together and chat since I'd like to get to know her. That was like, 30 minutes ago. How bad did I mess up? I just want to make some new friends!

as a general rule i'd say you absolutely shouldn't date your brother's roommate

I dated a chubby 6 foot tall girl when I was in the "UHHHH THICKER" stage of my life. The insecurities on her part were a nightmare to deal with that left me scared of ever doing it again. now i date girls that are 5 feet tall and i can throw

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50818636]3 non-responsive texts is 1 too many[/QUOTE] 2 too many honestly. If she was actually interested she would have responded. Sending a "hey sorry if i came off as a creep..." pretty much seals the deal. If yoy have to send that message, youre already done for.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50818774]2 too many honestly. If she was actually interested she would have responded. Sending a "hey sorry if i came off as a creep..." pretty much seals the deal. If yoy have to send that message, youre already done for.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50818636]3 non-responsive texts is 1 too many[/QUOTE] Yeah, I figured as much. Felt like too much, should've just left it. I was ready to leave it after the first one but I got convinced that maybe she'd been at work or something, I don't know her schedule at all. Friend egged me on a bit though so I did it. Oh well, live and learn I guess.

[QUOTE=Guzbone;50818856]Yeah, I figured as much. Felt like too much, should've just left it. I was ready to leave it after the first one but I got convinced that maybe she'd been at work or something, I don't know her schedule at all. Friend egged me on a bit though so I did it. Oh well, live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE] If she was interested she would have remembered to text you back if she got the text at work or saw it and was too busy to reply. If they don't reply after the first text, they're not interested. It's not a good idea to date your brothers roommate anyways. If it works out, then your brother is living with your girlfriend, and if it doesn't work out then your brother is living with your ex. It's really not a good idea to date anyone you know's roommate in general really.

Hey guys, I don't know how this post's gonna get received here, just something extremely weird and somehow embarrassing to admit, but I wanted to share with you anyway, and since some of you are studying psychology, maybe I'll get a little insight on my peculiar "fetish", if one may call it. Or maybe some of you experience the same: So I found that I get pretty much turned on over my gf's past sexual stories. The nastier the better. Of course that knowing about the people she did it with disturbs me but for some reason, knowing in detail about the acts themselves turn me on. This never happened with any other girl before. I would usually be all yucky about my exes past exploitations, and believe me, I've been with some nasty people before. But for some reason, which I assume to be the fact that she makes me feel completely safe with my kinks and fetishes and that sex with her has been something out of this world, this still intrigues me. So basically this all started when we were having a discussion about our bodies and she was being very adamant about how she felt that her vagina was ugly. I was being very clear about how I loved it (and I really do, it's perfect), and for some stupid reason I let out that "I've had sex with way worse", and obviously this made things even worse, and it was already to late to unsay it. So, to get even, and a bit mean, she described me a story about a bad penis in her past she struggled a lot with in order to make things work for her in bed (and I'm gonna spare you guys the details). I got all "EWWW NO, I don't wanna know about that!" and got pissed and it developed into a small argument which ended in a very diplomatic turn of apologies. But at the same I got time very, and I mean VERY turned on. I just couldn't ignore it. And every time I went back on the chat history to read her experience (and it was very explicit) I would, and still do, get this rush of excitement and become extremely turned on. It took me a week to accept this and to accept the fact that I was ready to talk to her about it and, I did. She has always encouraged me to be open about sex stuff, we both encourage each other. And I talked about it. I was scared at first, but she received the news very well. She even told me she felt the same about her ex's ex. She used to get thrilled about her ex-boyfriend having sex with his ex. So, we pretty much discussed this. She was very interested to hear it and says that whatever I wanted to know she would tell me, no problem. She asked if this was about me wanting to invite more people into sex, but I said no. None of us are, at all, into that. She also stated that she was more than happy to tell me everything but she didn't want to know anything about my past. And we agreed on that. So I kinda felt free to exploit this, and it's become quite addicting, let me tell you. I think it's because I'm a very visual person when it comes to sex. I like to see stuff happen, I like to touch, smell, and admire. And since I've only been able to do this freely and without prejudice with this girl, my fantasies have probably turned towards imagining her in thrilling sexual encounters in detail, and the reality attached to those tales it's what's probably spicing it up for me. This is my only Hypothesis for this phenomenon since It disturbs me to know who it was with. I only want to know what happened, how she felt, what she did, what the person did, etc etc... cause I'm also certainly not attracted to cuckholding. So far, we've spent nights doing this over the phone or whatsapp, we tried exploring this a bit and she started telling me stuff and letting me ask questions and it has been a huge turn on. (it's important to say that we're in a LDR so a lot of kinky stuff happens via phone). And yeah, it's out there. Felt good to share, even if some of you will find this weird. I was also wondering if this is a common thing. Or if any of you ever felt or does feel the same. How did it work out for those of you who also get turned on by this. If you do.

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Being turned on by your partner describing themselves in sexual encounters is hardly fetishistic.

[QUOTE=UzumakaiPatch;50821478]Being turned on by your partner describing themselves in sexual encounters is hardly fetishistic.[/QUOTE] How come?

Me and my girlfriend broke up about a week ago. It wasn't a bad breakup, she is going to move back to the US sometime near Christmas or early New Year as she doesn't like being in London anymore. We clicked in a few ways but had certain differences in others which stressed us both out. She spoke to me and we had a understanding talk about it. We rent together so we are going to continue to be house mates and so far it's be going well. Stress on both of us feels lifted and it's pretty good. I believe we will still be in contact when she moves which would be nice. Well I guess it's back to being a player! [sp]of video games[/sp]

[QUOTE=Dominic0904;50821718]Me and my girlfriend broke up about a week ago. It wasn't a bad breakup, she is going to move back to the US sometime near Christmas or early New Year as she doesn't like being in London anymore. We clicked in a few ways but had certain differences in others which stressed us both out. She spoke to me and we had a understanding talk about it. We rent together so we are going to continue to be house mates and so far it's be going well. Stress on both of us feels lifted and it's pretty good. I believe we will still be in contact when she moves which would be nice. Well I guess it's back to being a player! [sp]of video games[/sp][/QUOTE] Not trying to start shit but just wait until one of you gets another partner / "friend" / fwb. It'll be awkward sooner than you can say it

shit I got a match on tinder, started speaking to the girl and she said she swiped right because I have long hair and play bass (all but one of my photos are me on stage, the other is me with Frank Bello). after I mentioned that people have said I should cut it, she immediately said I shouldn't. my hair is a divisive topic apparently

So I had sex, or the closest thing to it, for the first time. I didn't nut in her(no condom) or at all since my drive wasn't up much and I wanted to trim down the grass around the palm tree so they wouldn't get pulled along when she tries to give a handjob. (ouch) Pretty much just foreplay, from what I know and understand women have a harder time coming so I just focused on her needs. Ate vagina for the first time, dove my tongue right in there and it tasted exactly as I expected it to be but I don't know how to describe its taste. She more preferred when I massaged, nibbled and squeezed her tits and nipples. Got her to come eventually so victory! I hope this doesn't come off as one of those typical "omfg I just had sex!!" posts. Any advice on how to spice things up for next time?