Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46007565]Pretty sure we clipped through the ground.[/QUOTE] No, someone simply made the whole map an infinite 'portal' workaround. But fear not, for 1 unit of water on the end of the chasm is enough to safe-guard our descent.

Been reading through the last five pages of this thread in the middle of the night and it's really fucking trippy and it doesn't help that I listen to trippy dark music and can barely sleep at night. Like 4chan of all places being compromised and unless it's a mod gone rouge moot have just abandoned everything he used to stand for. I really didin't care too much about Gamergate at first, pretty much laughed at all the journalists and developers making fools out of themselves. Both both Tim Schafer and moot, two guys I used to respect going full SJW really fucking depresses me. Sorry if that post insist the most coherent thing in the world but as I said, I've had problems sleeping at night lately which makes it hard for me to concentrate at things. It doesn't help that I've never been that good at spelling or grammar in neither English nor my native language either.

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5027205/IT%2BKEEPS%2BHAPPENING%2BBRO%2B_cbc28686a3cce982c523c7e8d7f9cd0d.jpg[/img] Surprisingly related.

Well how about that, I've been banned from posting from 4chan for a few days along with a load of other people for talking about the most recent leak earlier today.

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[QUOTE=Eonart;46008355] [IMG]http://puu.sh/bDt7T/eb7d3e7130.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] [i][b]What the fuck?[/b][/i] These people gave you fucking money. You CANNOT take them away from the list. Are you fucking insane? Do you think people are even going to buy your product if you're forcing them to take back their money?

[QUOTE=Eonart;46008355][IMG]http://puu.sh/bDt7T/eb7d3e7130.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I find that hard to believe. Is there anyone reporting that as well? Also a lot of those bans are bullshit. I've read over the rules a few times now, and some legitimate people not spamming/evading are getting banned. I even saw a person on /b/ get banned for "4chan intra-raid". [editline]18th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Reimu;46008377][i][b]What the fuck?[/b][/i] These people gave you fucking money. You CANNOT take them away from the list. Are you fucking insane? Do you think people are even going to buy your product if you're forcing them to take back their money?[/QUOTE] They're either getting forum banned or getting their money back. Like a lot of people who demanded a refund over that dina drama shit.

[QUOTE=warneccruid;46008302][img]http://i.imgur.com/BLPrN58.png[/img][/QUOTE] Dark times..

[QUOTE=warneccruid;46008302][img]http://i.imgur.com/BLPrN58.png[/img][/QUOTE] banning for saying nigger on pol OF ALL PLACES? Hahahaha what are they even doing

If they're getting their name censored, they could probably sue. Because they're getting their backer privileges taken away when they were promised compensation for funding. If they're being given their money back, then that's just fucking ridiculous. I was looking forward to Mighty No. 9 too. Fuck it.

[QUOTE=Reimu;46008426]If they're getting their name censored, they could probably sue. Because they're getting their backer privileges taken away when they were promised compensation for funding. If they're being given their money back, then that's just fucking ridiculous. I was looking forward to Mighty No. 9 too. Fuck it.[/QUOTE] i bet i can guess everyone's favourite community relations whos behind all that

This is getting fucking ridiculous. I honestly don't know how people can go "oh this is fine stop overreacting."

God this blew up while I was at work.Wonder how long till I get shadowbanned on reddit for openly discussing Gamergate outside the few out of way subs. Reimu keep on fighting the good fight.

[QUOTE=Eonart;46008074]next thing you know the entirety of fez itself was a decodable message on its own which contained nuclear missle launch codes[/QUOTE] Oh, in that case it's letter artifact LT RT RT LT RT LT LT LT, number artifact RT RT RT LT RT RT LT T. Nobody knows how you're supposed to work that out, but that's the solution.

I was told again this has nothing to do with Journalistic ethics,I stand validated in my claims.

It seems to me that a running theme in all of this is that mods think they can control and influence whether people visit their site. Which isn't exactly true. If the culture of a website is threatened, disrupted, or compromised, users will leave. Hence the exodus from 4chan to 8chan. GamerGate has been one huge exercise in moderators and administrators thinking that they have more collective power and control over users than they really think. Collectively, users can choose not to visit a website. Collectively, users can force advertisers to remove their advertisements from websites. Collectively, users can tank the index ranking of any given website. And when that happens, it hurts.

I wonder how long till mods rebel in force. I was thinking today while at work this could mean the end of a lot of gaming journals,after reading what happened over the day,let it burn.

[QUOTE=Eonart;46008527]Yeah the whole "This isn't ethics, it's misogyny" group is really fucking despicable. They censor the actual ethics discussions and publicly expose anything that goes in their favor. It's like debating by forcing the other person not to bring up any points that supports their own side.[/QUOTE] It's increasingly difficult to accept that when the movement is still headlined, after weeks of 'discussion' by quips directed at Zoe Quinn's sexuality (who supposedly isn't relevant anymore?). See, recently: [QUOTE=Wii60;46006896]i know literally who is not relevant anymore but i couldn't resist posting this [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UUcjNC6.png[/IMG] also marcus beer disagrees with both sides over the list: [url]https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/512368354112573440[/url][/QUOTE] Also this has been discussed at length before but the fact that the message is often 'don't be misogynists, it makes us look bad' and not 'don't be misogynists, it's horrible' is a little distasteful. Unless you're being willfully blind it's apparent that there's a huge overlap between the GamerGate people who want to fight corruption and GamerGate people who want to fight social games critique. See people like Internet Aristocrat, and the people endorsing that video posted earlier that videogames are somehow free and clear of all sexism, ever, and talking about it makes you a hipster SJW.

[QUOTE=Reimu;46008593]It seems to me that a running theme in all of this is that mods think they can control and influence whether people visit their site. Which isn't exactly true. If the culture of a website is threatened, disrupted, or compromised, users will leave. Hence the exodus from 4chan to 8chan. GamerGate has been one huge exercise in moderators and administrators thinking that they have more collective power and control over users than they really think. Collectively, users can choose not to visit a website. Collectively, users can force advertisers to remove their advertisements from websites. Collectively, users can tank the index ranking of any given website. And when that happens, it hurts.[/QUOTE] The real question is: did [i]that[/i] many users leave 4chan to 8chan to actually affect it? And what's to stop them from going back once this dies down?

I see it more as a symbiotic relationship, but it's still a problem that needs to be dealt with. And, if push comes to shove, I'd rather alienate the anti-SJ folks if it means ending harassment in/from GG. Either way, I'm sure as hell going to distance myself from any of those anti-SJ folks the moment GG succeeds. But we get to use each other for now, as long as we are able to check the conservative and hardline rightist folks. I have no problem if conservatives are in the movement as long as they aren't assholes.

I doubt that the majority of Gamergate is even remotely OK with Misogyny .

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46008649]The real question is: did [i]that[/i] many users leave 4chan to 8chan to actually affect it? And what's to stop them from going back once this dies down?[/QUOTE] True. I don't think people will leave yet. But, if this continues, I think a lot of people will start to move away from 4chan. Especially if the degree of bans ramp up. Most people like 4chan because of the focus on free speech. Banning topics that piss people off is definitely a huge blight on that point.

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Uggh. I don't think investors is enough. We need more substantial proof, like the Gawker connection.

The mods should've kept the 1 thread. Getting rid of that essentially smashed a jar of bees on the ground.

[QUOTE=Denicide;46008620]It's increasingly difficult to accept that when the movement is still headlined, after weeks of 'discussion' by quips directed at Zoe Quinn's sexuality (who supposedly isn't relevant anymore?). See, recently: Also this has been discussed at length before but the fact that the message is often 'don't be misogynists, it makes us look bad' and not 'don't be misogynists, it's horrible' is a little distasteful. Unless you're being willfully blind it's apparent that there's a huge overlap between the GamerGate people who want to fight corruption and GamerGate people who want to fight social games critique. See people like Internet Aristocrat, and the people endorsing that video posted earlier that videogames are somehow free and clear of all sexism, ever, and talking about it makes you a hipster SJW.[/QUOTE] IN the case of that tweet, it's SmegmaKing, a notorious troll that takes easy snipes at idiots. The only people that would take him seriously are those that wouldn't bother to do research.

[QUOTE=warneccruid;46008688][img]http://i.imgur.com/1ku5NIM.png[/img][/QUOTE] Not even my inner scottsmen can say 'Naaah' loud enough.

[QUOTE=Hidole555;46008706]The mods should've kept the 1 thread. Getting rid of that essentially smashed a jar of bees on the ground.[/QUOTE]Its more like seeing a nest of hornets notorious for stinging anyone who approaches, and thinking "I should just go start kicking the shit out of that thing. Nothing bad could happen."

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46008735]Its more like seeing a nest of hornets notorious for stinging anyone who approaches, and thinking "I should just go start kicking the shit out of that thing. Nothing bad could happen."[/QUOTE] Or seeing the most evil looking crocodile and yelling, "I'm going to stick my finger, [B]UP ITS ASS.[/B]"

Thread too spooky, too many skeletons in the closets.