Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.

[Miya]

[QUOTE=Manibogi;46017569]That is a really contrived and far-out-there explanation for all of this.[/QUOTE]

it fits the turn of events though

i can't think of a better explanation of why a community-essential /a/ thread suddenly is vanishing.

[Manibogi]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46017580]Why do you think it's happening? Im not saying that's it, I'm just asking[/QUOTE]

Well I'm surfing through /a/ right now and according to some posts those threads had nudes, or at least very sexualized pics, in them, so I'm guessing that's why. A thread getting nuked for porn is not unheard of.

[Swilly]

Yeah honestly, I have to ask what other explanation is there for something like that.

[phlexiglass]

[QUOTE=Mingebox;46017572]Wow, pretty soon you won't even be able to get dubs.[/QUOTE]

or they'll just make it so you can ONLY get dubs because non dubs are reminiscent of XY chromosomes rather than XX

[Miya]

[QUOTE=Manibogi;46017588]Well I'm surfing through /a/ right now and according to some posts those threads had nudes, or at least very sexualized pics, in them, so I'm guessing that's why. A thread getting nuked for porn is not unheard of.[/QUOTE]

it's /a/

theres porn 24/7

edit:

there is seriously 2 loli threads on /a/ right now. one with over 300+ posts.

[Manibogi]

[QUOTE=Mingebox;46017572]Wow, pretty soon you won't even be able to get dubs.[/QUOTE]

Aren't dubs bannable anyway?

[Swilly]

Wasn't /a/ created just for that reason, to post hentai and shite.

[Manibogi]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017603]it's /a/

theres porn 24/7[/QUOTE]

I've never been to /a/ before but as far as I can tell it's in Yotsuba B, so if it gets nuked, though shit.

[editline]18th September 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=Swilly;46017611]Wasn't /a/ created just for that reason, to post hentai and shite.[/QUOTE]

That's /h/

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017603]it's /a/

theres porn 24/7

edit:

there is seriously 2 loli threads on /a/ right now.[/QUOTE]

Only 2?

/a/ is still a blue board and SFW

Anyways, that sounds completely irrelevant to the Breitbart article or 4chan bannings.

[Swilly]

I know /h/ was but /a/ got into it anyway and they were fine with it until like, just today.

[Miya]

[QUOTE=Manibogi;46017616]I've never been to /a/ before but as far as I can tell it's in Yotsuba B, so if it gets nuked, though shit.

[editline]18th September 2014[/editline]

That's /h/[/QUOTE]

if you ever go to a waifu/husbando thread in /a/,/v/,/co/ or other various board sections, you will see the occasional lewd pic.

and if there is one, the singular post gets deleted usually, not a entire thread.

[Swilly]

The thing is, they've just started enforcing the rules on these different boards after how many years of not even fuckin' with em?

[goon165]

[QUOTE=Manibogi;46017537]I fail to see how they were being illusive or dishonest. No one responded to his letter idea, like he said they did.[/QUOTE]

the letter being discussed wasn't his idea to begin with, it was Andrew Groen who then went on to say:

[quote]I'd also suggest that - if others think the letter is a good idea - we should do this entirely under the radar, organizing it through word-of-mouth and email rather than Twitter. I made the mistake earlier of publicly voicing support and in doing so drawing more attention to the issue. I'd rather not make that mistake again.
— Andrew Groen, WIRED contributor[/quote]

this aside though (no one can take his ideas seriously if they weren't his ideas!) Three people colluded about the letter and Andrew Groen even went so far as to say it should be passed around quietly like it's a note in goddamn highschool.

How could they even begin to suggest this if there isn't a network of friends who know friends who know friends?

[Manibogi]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017631]if you ever go to a waifu/husbando thread in /a/,/v/,/co/ or other various board sections, you will see the occasional lewd pic.

and if there is one, the singular post gets deleted usually, not a entire thread.[/QUOTE]

I've seen cases in /mlp/ and /vp/ where there were so many they decided to nuke the whole thread. I've also seen long threads with only 2-3 pics get nuked. And there's other cases I've seen where 80% of all posts get deleted but not the entire thread.
I guess it depends on the janitor, really.

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=goon165;46017655]the letter being discussed wasn't his idea to begin with, it was Andrew Groen who then went on to say:

this aside though (no one can take his ideas seriously if they weren't his ideas!) Three people colluded about the letter and Andrew Groen even went so far as to say it should be passed around quietly like it's a note in goddamn highschool.

How could they even begin to suggest this if there isn't a network of friends who know friends who know friends?[/QUOTE]

Please show me the letter of support they wrote. And journalism is all about networking. From their point of view [i]at the time[/i], all they saw was an ex getting revenge causing a developer to get harassed. They wanted to show support to a developer being bullied. I don't really see what's wrong from that context.

[Zet]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017549]it fits the SJW mantra of not sexualizing women.

and if there's seriously SJW 4chan mods then this thing supports that theory.[/QUOTE]
They should stop appropriating my culture by taking my waifu threads away.

[Miya]

entire email dump

[url]http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/09/19/gamejournopros-zoe-quinn-email-dump/[/url]

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017713]entire email dump

[url]http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/09/19/gamejournopros-zoe-quinn-email-dump/[/url][/QUOTE]

There's a lot of personal information like several phone numbers there

[Miya]

Milo's blog essentially been DDOS'd

alternate

[url]https://archive.today/JFoxJ[/url]

[goon165]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46017684][B]Please show me the letter of support they wrote.[/B][/QUOTE]

I can't, and unless Milo has it in his bag of tricks we'll likely never see it because the person who brought the idea up specifically stated it should be made and sent through means where the public wouldn't see it.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46017684]
And journalism is all about networking. From their point of view [i]at the time[/i], all they saw was an ex getting revenge causing a developer to get harassed. They wanted to show support to a developer being bullied. I don't really see what's wrong from that context.[/QUOTE]

Aside from stretching the benefit of the doubt here, if they wanted to show support they should have done so publicly however we saw how that went for their own image. so they all had a little get-together in a backroom to do something thinking we wouldn't find out.

and then there was this yesterday
[img]http://www.breitbart.com/mediaserver/26565B83C18A46CFA70C4D0C47322EB6.jpg?h=361&w=640[/img]

If that last sentence doesn't set off alarm bells I'm not sure what would.

[fruxodaily]

I'm up and early and recording, anything I missed

[phlexiglass]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017745]Milo's blog essentially been DDOS'd

alternate

[url]https://archive.today/JFoxJ[/url][/QUOTE]

"Even if there is any merit to those accusations, the sickening facts of these attacks easily overwhelms it"

Not even 2 paragraphs in and hes discrediting the entire movement on the actions of few.

[editline]asdfa[/editline]

Though I'm glad to see Greg standing his ground against Ben telling him what he should think rather than providing an actual argument.

[Miya]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46017777]I'm up and early and recording, anything I missed[/QUOTE]

milo did second email news post

then posted the entire email logs in the link i posted right above these posts

[fruxodaily]

Harrison Walton you're a dick

[editline]19th September 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46017784]milo did second email news post

then posted the entire email logs in the link i posted right above these posts[/QUOTE]

Thank you, I'm looking through the docs file and I seemed to have deleted something by swilly

[Swilly]

That's fucking disgusting, someone actually though calling Eron deranged was okay.

[quote=Chris Dahlen]FWIW – I think this is disgusting, and not worth any space from any outlet. The guy who wrote that post sounds deranged. We’ve all had our hearts broken in our twenties but most of us just complain to our friends. I can’t imagine sending an internet mob against anyone I’ve ever dated no matter how bent I was about it afterwards.[/quote]

[quote=Dancstarky]You can see him as a person with complex emotions and all that… but he’s also a goddamned adult, not a child. He threw a temper tantrum. That’s OKay when you’re 3, not 23. No sympathy. He can grow up.[/quote]

[quote=Susan Arendt]“…it’s hard not to sympathize [with Eron]”

Actually, it’s not hard at all. Pretty damn easy, in fact. Fuck that guy.[/quote]

[quote=Ben Kuchara]I had the same reaction. That Vice article is bullshit.[/quote]

[quote=Danielle]I don’t care if this jilted moron walks around with sad puppy dog eyes for the rest of his life, the fact of the matter is that Zoe – and those closest to her – were put in very real danger by the things he posted online. As in, danger of physical violence. If he was with Zoe for any length of time, he would have known what a mob of angry insane misogynists were capable of, but his pissy little feelings were more important.

I have no sympathy for a person who puts someone in danger like that, out of pure spite.[/quote]

[quote=Scott Nicols]That’s where things get sticky. This is some straight-up relationship drama, just spilled out across a larger canvas. Who are any of us to say what’s true and what’s not in the alleged facts that have been laid out? And say some of the ex’s allegations ARE true: Is it right to send a message that indirectly validates the shitty behavior he described? Would Zoe even feel comfort at such a gesture, considering it amounts to a reminder of the public embarrassment she’s had to stare down with this whole affair being dragged into a public setting?[/quote]

Mr.Nichols is the only motherfucker who even played with the harassment allegations might be true.

[phlexiglass]

Yeah, I'm extremely appalled that they're all dismissing him as some angry ex when he was clearly emotionally abused repeatedly. How can someone call themselves an advocate for social justice when they actively condone abuse?

[Swilly]

Because they're shallow pricks that don't actually want equality, just a high horse to sit on.

[Jaguar]

You're all committing the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy]historian's fallacy[/url]. [b]At the time[/b] they saw an ex getting revenge and people harassing Zoe Quinn, which is why they closed discussions.

[Géza!]

[QUOTE=xxncxx;46017833]Yeah, I'm extremely appalled that they're all dismissing him as some angry ex when he was clearly emotionally abused repeatedly. How can someone call themselves an advocate for social justice when they actively condone abuse?[/QUOTE]

Because in practice they seem content with Social Petty Revenge instead of Social Justice

[phlexiglass]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46017849]You're all committing the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy]historian's fallacy[/url]. [b]At the time[/b] they saw an ex getting revenge and people harassing Zoe Quinn, which is why they closed discussions.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make dismissing abuse claims OK in any way.