Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.

[RayvenQ]

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46100141]I vaguely want people to try attacking Facepunch. It'd be hilarious in its futility.[/QUOTE]

It'd be like "You're trying to insult Facepunch as a whole? How cute, we've called each other worse than you ever will."

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=Reimu;46102388]Part of the reason I pushed out Part 2 of the Zoepost video was to make sure that there was sufficient proof of abuse amidst the current legal happenings.

Godforbid a shitstorm arises, then the videos are perfect resources to help defend Eron.[/QUOTE]

I hope that can't be used against Eron. Lawyers recommend to avoid publishing anything about a current case. I could be wrong.

[Reimu]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46102421]I hope that can't be used against Eron. Lawyers recommend to avoid publishing anything about a current case. I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]

One of my friends warned me about that too IRL, but the Zoepost is publicly available and has been for a month.

[wickedplayer494]

[QUOTE=Reimu;46102433]One of my friends warned me about that too IRL, but the Zoepost is publicly available and has been for a month.[/QUOTE]

And even if it does go down, the entirety of it is already in the Wayback Machine (I loaded it in to ArchiveBot just a short bit before the thing started to blow up).

[fruxodaily]

I removed my GG video because I felt it was shit, shabby and not up to my standards

[truckilles]

Only thing "new" might be that lawsuit, and the king of pol doxxing situation (which isn't clearly the fault of a 4chan mod as far as I can tell).

[JesseR92]

I think the Anti GG will keep Doxxing and generally being foul and end up having it blow up in their face in spectacular ways.How long until something major happens due to that behavior?

[kaloszer]

I guess that backfired
[url]https://twitter.com/Kingofpol/status/516439436331327488[/url]

[Miya]

this is great

[t]http://i.imgur.com/JdK38Z0.png[/t]

[Rusty100]

neither of them are real though can people stop talking about straw ladies like it means anything

[Nomad]

Who started occulass again? That artist?

[Jamsponge]

This has hugely backfired on Dobson, holy shit

[wickedplayer494]

How is the Maltego project file looking? Haven't seen it get mentioned within a while.

[goon165]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46103079]this is great

[t]http://i.imgur.com/JdK38Z0.png[/t][/QUOTE]

I like this.

Mostly because people keep missing the point about Vivian, the point being [B]"I don't care, I just want to play videogames."[/B]

[Vagak]

[img]https://38.media.tumblr.com/3a662da5bac6535b5e7e876555e855bb/tumblr_ncm9cwYk9Z1r7ggnqo1_500.png[/img]

[Kuiper]

[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46103185][img]https://38.media.tumblr.com/3a662da5bac6535b5e7e876555e855bb/tumblr_ncm9cwYk9Z1r7ggnqo1_500.png[/img][/QUOTE]

Just roll with the free publicity lmao

It's probably encouraged more people to eat there anyway.

[Banned?]

[QUOTE=kaloszer;46103011]I guess that backfired
[url]https://twitter.com/Kingofpol/status/516439436331327488[/url][/QUOTE]

Anyone else bugged by KingofPol's streams? I feel like they go off on way too many tangents that have nothing to do with Gamer Gate and get a little too close to the...well, /pol/ side of things.

[Miya]

i didn't know whether or not to post this here or the zoe threads in the video section

this guy has been calling out zoe since july 16th.
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/q6IY3xf.jpg[/URL]

the twitter has been deleted when people found out about it:
[URL]https://twitter.com/butchercassidy2/with_replies[/URL]

if you google "site:twitter.com butchercassidy2" though you can see caches of the tweets before the acc was deleted.

[url]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7GowBxWJqwQJ:https://twitter.com/BillZoeker/status/489621418343014400+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url]

[url]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Eob8tj2CcTQJ:https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/489622053272559616+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url]

[coup]

[QUOTE=Binladen34;46103208]Just roll with the free publicity lmao

It's probably encouraged more people to eat there anyway.[/QUOTE]

Immediately after this whole thing started a while back I gained an insane craving for Five Guys.

I then proceeded to drown in fries and meaty bliss.

[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]

Seriously, their food is great. Little pricey for what it is (except the fockin fries, lawd almighty)

[FangLargo]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;46103527]Immediately after this whole thing started a while back I gained an insane craving for Five Guys.

I then proceeded to drown in fries and meaty bliss.

[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]

Seriously, their food is great. Little pricey for what it is (except the fockin fries, lawd almighty)[/QUOTE]

Any plans I had in case I found myself in the US has been cancelled.

[No_0ne]

i didn't even know there was a five guys in my city until this debacle

seriously i had no idea they existed on my side of the states

[phlexiglass]

[QUOTE=Banned?;46103222]Anyone else bugged by KingofPol's streams? I feel like they go off on way too many tangents that have nothing to do with Gamer Gate and get a little too close to the...well, /pol/ side of things.[/QUOTE]
I agree, a lot of people in this are kinda sketchy in my book...

[coup]

[QUOTE=No_0ne;46103557]i didn't even know there was a five guys in my city until this debacle

seriously i had no idea they existed on my side of the states[/QUOTE]

They kind of exploded in 2008 when Obama said they were his favorite burger chain. I have like 8 in my city alone.

[adnzzzzZ]

[QUOTE=Banned?;46103222]Anyone else bugged by KingofPol's streams? I feel like they go off on way too many tangents that have nothing to do with Gamer Gate and get a little too close to the...well, /pol/ side of things.[/QUOTE]

Just don't watch them. Literally every person on all streams I've watched, except Adam Baldwin and Totalbiscuit are completely kinda insane. Adam Baldwin is self aware enough to not go on too many tangents despite what he personally believes and Totalbiscuit has his priorities in order (gaming journalism). All other people are waaaaaaaay too far gone for the DiGRA stuff and finding connections everywhere that it's kinda embarrassing. Just don't give them views and that's it.

[coup]

[QUOTE=Banned?;46103222]Anyone else bugged by KingofPol's streams? I feel like they go off on way too many tangents that have nothing to do with Gamer Gate and get a little too close to the...well, /pol/ side of things.[/QUOTE]

It's called the 'KingofPol' stream for christ's sake, he's not talking primarily about GamerGate. It makes sense that he's talking more about what's relevant to /pol/ at the moment.

[Flak]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;46103527]Immediately after this whole thing started a while back I gained an insane craving for Five Guys.

I then proceeded to drown in fries and meaty bliss.

[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]

Seriously, their food is great. Little pricey for what it is (except the fockin fries, lawd almighty)[/QUOTE]
I was with a friend talking about GamerGate when we saw a restaurant called BFF: Burgers and Fries Forever.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46103237]i didn't know whether or not to post this here or the zoe threads in the video section

this guy has been calling out zoe since july 16th.
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/q6IY3xf.jpg[/URL]

the twitter has been deleted when people found out about it:
[URL]https://twitter.com/butchercassidy2/with_replies[/URL]

if you google "site:twitter.com butchercassidy2" though you can see caches of the tweets before the acc was deleted.

[URL]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7GowBxWJqwQJ:https://twitter.com/BillZoeker/status/489621418343014400+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/URL]

[URL]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Eob8tj2CcTQJ:https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/489622053272559616+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/URL][/QUOTE]
Holy shit. She is such a scumbag. She is openly lying to her friends in that post about stuff the internet was or had already revealed. Good god why didn't she just fucking apologize?

[Te Great Skeeve]

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;46104259]I was with a friend talking about GamerGate when we saw a restaurant called BFF: Burgers and Fries Forever.

Holy shit. She is such a scumbag. She is openly lying to her friends in that post about stuff the internet was or had already revealed. Good god why didn't she just fucking apologize?[/QUOTE]

If people just apologized and fixed their mistakes we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

[blerb]

I think the best thing Zoe can do at this point is just acknowledge how much damage she's done and truly apologize. I know it can be hard to own your mistakes sometimes, but she is only digging her grave deeper and deeper the longer she fights Eron and GG, especially with more and more evidence surfacing about her true colours. She will be hard pressed to find a job in this industry if she doesn't (if she can at all anymore).

Honestly, Reimu is doing her a favour with his videos. Not many people get analyzed on a personal level with such precision, especially not for free. It's basically free therapy at this point. I wish I had that luxury. Having it public for the world to see (and a portion of the world will surely use it to harass her) may be uncomfortable, but if she's capable of even a small amount of empathy, she will own up to her actions and come to understand just how necessary it was.

Wishful thinking, of course.

[TurboSax]

[QUOTE=blerb;46104588]I think the best thing Zoe can do at this point is just acknowledge how much damage she's done and truly apologize. I know it can be hard to own your mistakes sometimes, but she is only digging her grave deeper and deeper the longer she fights Eron and GG, especially with more and more evidence surfacing about her true colours. She will be hard pressed to find a job in this industry if she doesn't (if she can at all anymore).

Honestly, Reimu is doing her a favour with his videos. Not many people get analyzed on a personal level with such precision, especially not for free. It's basically free therapy at this point. I wish I had that luxury. Having it public for the world to see (and a portion of the world will surely use it to harass her) may be uncomfortable, but if she's capable of even a small amount of empathy, she will own up to her actions and come to understand just how necessary it was.

Wishful thinking, of course.[/QUOTE]

All of this really would be her best option. Owning up to her mistakes and vowing to start anew could be what saves her, and it'd certainly bolster the opinions of people on her side even higher.

However, she won't ever do it. Too much pride, too little sense, and just plain too much certainty that her friends and connections will always save her.

Eventually, her mistakes and attempts to hide them are going to bite her in the ass hard, either directly through an exposure of info that'd cripple her argument and destroy the trust of her followers, or indirectly through good old karma slapping her upside the head somehow.

It's only a matter of time at this rate until it all implodes in on her, so get your popcorn ready. Besides, it's not like GG is going to die anytime soon, since someone on the anti-GG side always stupidly throws a can of gas into the flames every time it gets quiet.

[Vagak]

Let's face it. If Zoe loses in court and it is brought out for the world to see, the anti-GG journalists are going to end up throwing another article out to distract from the real issue again.

There's always going to be an opposing side as far as I'm concerned, because people are going to continue to be ignorant.

Since the Gamergate article on wiki seems to mention Zoe so much though, it might make an interesting addition to it, especially on her own wiki page however. That's assuming the stubborn anti-GG vandalism will let it through.