Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46108935]So 8chan is off to a great start. Apparently the 8chan /v/ mod is worse than the mods on 4chan's /v/, /furry/ is the most popular board by a long shot akin to FurAffinity, and /younglove/ exists.[/QUOTE] Why do you think /furry/ is the most popular board? As in how did you reach the conclusion. Not why you think that's the case.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46108935]So 8chan is off to a great start. Apparently the 8chan /v/ mod is worse than the mods on 4chan's /v/, /furry/ is the most popular board by a long shot akin to FurAffinity, and /younglove/ exists.[/QUOTE] these are baseless lies and fabrications? [url]https://8chan.co/boards.html[/url] the mods I've seen have had a good sense of humor handing out joke bans that don't even last a minute.

[QUOTE=goon165;46108996]these are baseless lies and fabrications? [url]https://8chan.co/boards.html[/url] the mods I've seen have had a good sense of humor handing out joke bans that don't even last a minute.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://8chan.co/younglove/"]Younglove does actually exist though.[/URL]

[QUOTE=CcZero;46109015][URL="https://8chan.co/younglove/"]Younglove does actually exist though.[/URL][/QUOTE] Why did I click that...

[QUOTE=goon165;46108996]these are baseless lies and fabrications? [url]https://8chan.co/boards.html[/url] the mods I've seen have had a good sense of humor handing out joke bans that don't even last a minute.[/QUOTE] Guess I heard wrong about that. I still firmly believe that 8chan will follow the same actions 4chan has eventually. Or 7chan.

[QUOTE=CcZero;46109015][URL="https://8chan.co/younglove/"]Younglove does actually exist though.[/URL][/QUOTE] Yeah, but 8chan's mission statement is 'free speech' and as we can see that means anything. one second glance in there shows the rules [B]no CP[/B] though. I hope they understand how amazingly thin the ice they're standing on is, and so long as they don't do anything legally wrong everything should be fine. [B][I]Should be fine.[/I][/B] [B][I]Should.[/I][/B]

[QUOTE=goon165;46109095]Yeah, but 8chan's mission statement is 'free speech' and as we can see that means anything. one second glance in there shows the rules [B]no CP.[/B] I hope they understand how amazingly thin the ice is they're standing on is, and so long as they don't do anything legally wrong everything should be fine. [B][I]Should be fine.[/I][/B] [B][I]Should.[/I][/B][/QUOTE] I get the feeling it's going to get shutdown sometime down the line no matter what happens.

What's with the oddly named Italian and French MLP boards?

[QUOTE=goon165;46109095]Yeah, but 8chan's mission statement is 'free speech' and as we can see that means anything. one second glance in there shows the rules [B]no CP[/B] though. I hope they understand how amazingly thin the ice they're standing on is, and so long as they don't do anything legally wrong everything should be fine. [B][I]Should be fine.[/I][/B] [B][I]Should.[/I][/B][/QUOTE] I bet we'll wake up to all GG followers being branded as pedophiles tomorrow. [QUOTE=Aredbomb;46109115]What's with the oddly named Italian and French MLP boards?[/QUOTE] Check your privilege you english speaking scum. :v:

[QUOTE=Ziron;46109108]I get the feeling it's going to get shutdown sometime down the line no matter what happens.[/QUOTE] and if that happens we can say we gave them a chance, but if they keep their shit together it'll be about as gray area as the /loli/ board which isn't going to kill anyone. [editline]29th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CcZero;46109135]I bet we'll wake up to all GG followers being branded as pedophiles.[/QUOTE] Well they were already calling us terrorists without any logical reasoning so what else is new? [B]Newsflash: #GG supporters are actually all gay cross-dressing furry Argentinian pedophiles, more at 11.[/B]

[QUOTE=Reimu;46107902]I've heard through the Grapevine that most of these male writers make up bullshit like that just to boost their progressive cred in the hopes of getting fucked. That's not hyperbole, either. They quite literally do this just to impress people they want to hook up with. They're literally the kind of SJ allies our community despises: saying the right mixture of words to appear social justicey. Yet, instead, these people end up in positions of power and dictate the progressive narratives in gaming journalism. It's disgusting.[/QUOTE] I don't think this was ever really up for debate.

Other than the bizarre gender politics tangent that article was actually pretty great. Or maybe I just didn't notice it's shortcomings because I stopped playing Dota 2 years ago. [editline]29th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Reimu;46107902]I've heard through the Grapevine that most of these male writers make up bullshit like that just to boost their progressive cred in the hopes of getting fucked. That's not hyperbole, either. They quite literally do this just to impress people they want to hook up with.[/QUOTE] While I certainly believe I a few people are engaging in this (latching on to movements for personal gain is a well established vice), I'd argue against using words like "most" when we don't really have much evidence of it. I'd much rather go with the idea that social justice is such a hot topic that authors feel the need to inject it into everything rather than outright malicious misdirection to get chicks. I dunno though. Maybe I'm just optimistic. I don't really follow video game politics.

No, from the people I talked to in the industry, it literally is most of these writers. You can count on one hand how many men actually care past getting fucked. Like I said in my first twitlong, a lot of these writers are just exploiting SJ for personal & career gains.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;46106741]You're just playing tone police now, no one cares.[/QUOTE] He has a habit of doing so. [editline]30th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;46109347]. I don't really follow video game politics.[/QUOTE] They shouldn't exist.

[QUOTE=Reimu;46109520]No, from the people I talked to in the industry, it literally is most of these writers. You can count on one hand how many men actually care past getting fucked. Like I said in my first twitlong, a lot of these writers are just exploiting SJ for personal & career gains.[/QUOTE] I'm not surprised at all. A vast majority of the "feminist" crituiques I've seen on games has been vapid, high-school level bullshit like "LOL BIKINI ARMOR IS DUM :(" and "Y WOMAN NOT MORE AKTIVE IN STORY". Any moron could do that shit to look "enlightened". That, and the actions of these so-called "progressives" goes completely against what they preach with their patronizing attitudes towards the people they claim to defend and sexist/racist stuff they say on Twitter.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46108300]wasnt there a study showing the easiest way to get laid is to impress feminists or am i thinking wrong[/QUOTE] The courses with the highest sexual participation are paid liars; sociology, marketing, law and finance.

[QUOTE=Ziron;46109671]I'm not surprised at all. A vast majority of the "feminist" crituiques I've seen on games has been vapid, high-school level bullshit like "LOL BIKINI ARMOR IS DUM :(" and "Y WOMAN NOT MORE AKTIVE IN STORY". Any moron could do that shit to look "enlightened". That, and the actions of these so-called "progressives" goes completely against what they preach with their patronizing attitudes towards the people they claim to defend and sexist/racist stuff they say on Twitter.[/QUOTE] Sure but I think a leap is being made between incompetent or outright fraudulent progressives who don't understand the topics they want to say and the idea that most of them are actually in it for the sex.

[QUOTE=Mr.95;46097255][t]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/270/c/c/syac_thereisntone_by_tompreston-d80soxy.jpg[/t] holy shit he's dense, how in the ever loving fuck do you miss the point of something twice in a row[/QUOTE] This one actually happens to be funny though, because the joke is somewhat self-contained... Also the carebear thing, that change has by itself massively improved the comic.

[QUOTE=Reimu;46107902]I've heard through the Grapevine that most of [B]these male writers make up bullshit like that just to boost their progressive cred in the hopes of getting fucked[/B]. That's not hyperbole, either. They quite literally do this just to impress people they want to hook up with. They're literally the kind of SJ allies our community despises: saying the right mixture of words to appear social justicey. Yet, instead, these people end up in positions of power and dictate the progressive narratives in gaming journalism. It's disgusting.[/QUOTE] Isn't that what they define as a "white knight"?

[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46109907]Isn't that what they define as a "white knight"?[/QUOTE] Yes. Also, any feminist who has spent one year in feminist communities should know immediately that white knights aren't just a strawman, but an actual problem. These writing journalists aren't white knights in their worst form, but they're bad. White knights are a problem. White knights aren't always just harmless Nice Guys looking to have sex. At their best, they just simply regurgitate feminist arguments for brownie points. At worst, they pretend to be feminists in order to coerce or manipulate women into trusting them, only to end up sexually harassing or assaulting them. That's a huge jump, and I don't think these journalists are legitimately anywhere near [b]that level[/b] of fucked up. But I remember when Anita Sarkeesian and male allies came out defending the idea of "white knights," and I don't think either of them understand that white knights are not good things. They weaponize feminism for their own personal ends, instead of sitting down and shutting up when the call is given to do so. Sometimes this just means career gains, but other times it means hiding behind feminism in order to - ironically enough - abuse women. As you can tell, that means the pattern of white knight behavior in its simplest form must be stopped in order to prevent it from snowballing into its worst form.

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;46103144]How is the Maltego project file looking? Haven't seen it get mentioned within a while.[/QUOTE] I'm - taking a bit of a break because I have IRL stuff to sort out. - not convinced of its usefulness, since not many people are looking at it. (I can see connections to the BTSync share.) - hitting limitations in Maltego (definitely not worth even close to the 2000$ price point). - hitting limitations in usefulness (because this thing just can't arrange stuff in a non-shitty manner due to bugs/bad algorithms/whatever). - hitting limitations in my work speed, and Maltego doesn't have good online collab features outside of organizations where everyone trusts everyone else. That's fairly demotivating. I also won't try improving it because - I dislike Python and won't program any Maltego addons to fix it, no matter what. [sp]I also won't try making anything better because - it would be a huge project. - I have IRL stuff to do that's just plain more important to me. - I'm missing expertise at about 10% of the features necessary for this. (could learn it in about two work-weeks I guess but meh, that's huge considering I usually just do stuff 2 days a month) - I'm not keen on making it compatible. - I'm actually really terrible at UI stuff. That said, I'm fairly sure I could pull it off less badly at least. I happen to not have nearly enough motivation though. I dislike programming a lot. Most of the time.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;46109839]Sure but I think a leap is being made between incompetent or outright fraudulent progressives who don't understand the topics they want to say and the idea that most of them are actually in it for the sex.[/QUOTE] Ehh, there is a lot of career opportunism and ladder climbing in the industry, on all sides. The fact that most journalists and developers that identified as "feminists" have enabled and defended [b]multiple[/b] abusers (Porpentine, Maya, Zoe, among others) should be a clear giveaway that these journos and devs are not really living their lives by feminist ideals.

[QUOTE=Reimu;46110021]Ehh, there is a lot of career opportunism and ladder climbing in the industry, on all sides. The fact that most journalists and developers that identified as "feminists" have enabled and defended [b]multiple[/b] abusers (Porpentine, Maya, Zoe, among others) should be a clear giveaway that these journos and devs are not really living their lives by feminist ideals.[/QUOTE] Porpentine was an abuser? Shit I hated her work but I didn't realize she was a shit human bean too.

[QUOTE=Ziron;46109671]I'm not surprised at all. A vast majority of the "feminist" crituiques I've seen on games has been vapid, high-school level bullshit like "LOL BIKINI ARMOR IS DUM :(" and "Y WOMAN NOT MORE AKTIVE IN STORY".[/QUOTE] To be fair, bikini armor is really dumb as shit.

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;46110053]Porpentine was an abuser? Shit I hated her work but I didn't realize she was a shit human bean too.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that came out last year around this time, too. Porpentine literally has a trail of survivors that push past a dozen; she's known for yelling at others and being verbally abusive to gain control. Anna Anthropy, lover her or hate her, was actually one of the key people in calling Porpentine out.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;46110502]To be fair, bikini armor is really dumb as shit.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah, but that's because it's incredibly impractical and defeats the purpose of having armor in the first place, not because it's misogynistic or anything like that.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;46110502]To be fair, bikini armor is really dumb as shit.[/QUOTE] I'm saying that because it's extremely basic "criticism" a goddamn high schooler could easily make. These morons seem to treat it like it's some sort of stunning truth and get all worked up over it, even though in reality it's such low-hanging fruit that it's touching the ground.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;46110502]To be fair, bikini armor is really dumb as shit.[/QUOTE] I like them though [img]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/img] They can fuck off from most games though,they rarely fit the aesthetic and story of a game

Bikini armor bothers me a lot more than it probably should in games its just so ineffective and impractical looking they hurt my eyes :v:

[QUOTE=goon165;46109146]and if that happens we can say we gave them a chance, but if they keep their shit together it'll be about as gray area as the /loli/ board which isn't going to kill anyone. [editline]29th September 2014[/editline] Well they were already calling us terrorists without any logical reasoning so what else is new? [B]Newsflash: #GG supporters are actually all gay cross-dressing furry Argentinian pedophiles, more at 11.[/B][/QUOTE]You forgot misogynistic shitlords. :v: