Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

So Matt Lees recently retweeted a tweet containing this: [url]http://gamergate.rogue-star-industries.com/[/url] Any idea as to where this came from? This is allegedly proof of GG being an 'organised hate movement'.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46159129]So Matt Lees recently retweeted a tweet containing this: [url]http://gamergate.rogue-star-industries.com/[/url] Any idea as to where this came from? This is allegedly proof of GG being an 'organised hate movement'.[/QUOTE] These guys are getting a little full of themselves [quote]Congratulations, #GamerGate. [b]We have victory on numerous fronts[/b], specifically all GG veterans participating in the daily boycotts and Operation Disrespectful Nod. [b]Consider yourselves hardened veterans.[/b] Intel, Scottrade, Unilever have abandoned enemy territory, and will no longer be [b]supplying the enemy throughout the Winter.[/b] Intel has shown us the way to absolute victory. A quote from their email, pulling out of Gamasutra, “Our ads were not a reflection of supporting certain article stances or shifts in editorial positioning.” Whether or not any particular advertiser supports us, [b]we can deduce that major advertisers have ZERO intention of being associated with the scandalous nature of enemy forces.[/b][/quote]

I was trying not to laugh at that page but as soon as Satsuki showed up I couldn't help it.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46159129]So Matt Lees recently retweeted a tweet containing this: [url]http://gamergate.rogue-star-industries.com/[/url] Any idea as to where this came from? This is allegedly proof of GG being an 'organised hate movement'.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]THIS IS A “LIVING DOCUMENT”; [B] Moar stuff[/B] will be added later. [B]Tweet all requests for corrections, edits, new operations, new battle data,“ammunition” to @RogueStarGamez[/B][/QUOTE] Just looking at the 1st page is enough see that this is not made by the same people who started this whole shitstorm. Claiming to have 1 central figurehead, having a "logo" that isn't vivan, and vivan has fallen out of use anyway. Google has no idea who Rogue star Gamez is, only a facebook game company called Roguestar Games. Also this should raise a few red flags; [IMG]http://a.pomf.se/arksux.png[/IMG] There is NO fucking way, a mistake like that would slip by if it was done by anyone at 8/4chan, especially if this documment has been ,"peer reviewed" for lack of better term, as it claims to be. This is a blatant flase flag.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46159129]So Matt Lees recently retweeted a tweet containing this: [url]http://gamergate.rogue-star-industries.com/[/url] Any idea as to where this came from? This is allegedly proof of GG being an 'organised hate movement'.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if that was made to be used against us, it seems too propagandist and dramatic to be made by someone pro-gamergate I mean "We have numerous victory on various fronts," "Unilever has abandoned enemy territory and will no longer be supplying the enemy throughout the winter" (like what?)

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46159193]These guys are getting a little full of themselves[/QUOTE] It's a joke. If you think GG is some sort of organized movement you haven't been reading enough.

[QUOTE=Banned?;46159211]I was trying not to laugh at that page but as soon as Satsuki showed up I couldn't help it.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna be honest, the /v/ thing was a mistake. At the same time, everything in this is par the course of the core message the 8chan GG threads have been saying. Hit the advertisers.

[QUOTE=Swilly;46159248]I'm gonna be honest, the /v/ thing was a mistake. At the same time, everything in this is par the course of the core message the 8chan GG threads have been saying. Hit the advertisers.[/QUOTE] Exactly, the content isn't wrong. [del]It [i]could[/i] be real.[/del] Who is @RogueStarGamez?

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46159269]Exactly, the content isn't wrong. [del]It [i]could[/i] be real.[/del] Who is @RogueStarGamez?[/QUOTE] I dunno. Also, after reading through this, its actually well thought out and focuses on doing everything except giving ammo to AGG via harassment and the like. Its goofy, but to expect nothing less from channers is kinda, naive. At least it can't take itself too seriously.

Looking at his [url=https://twitter.com/RogueStarGamez]Twitter[/url], I'm inclined to say it's real. They're just being a bit dramatic, which people from /v/ tend to be.

[QUOTE=Swilly;46159290]I dunno. Also, after reading through this, its actually well thought out and focuses on doing everything except giving ammo to AGG via harassment and the like. Its goofy, but to expect nothing less from channers is kinda, naive. At least it can't take itself too seriously.[/QUOTE] All i've found was a facebook called rogue star games, the logo is similar but the content is [URL="https://www.facebook.com/RogueStarGames"]very diferent.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zyler;46159243]It's a joke. If you think GG is some sort of organized movement you haven't been reading enough.[/QUOTE] There has to be some organization for it to have accomplished what it has. People don't just mass email advertisers for no reason. Though I doubt RogueStarGamez had anything to do with it and just wants to be "in".

This seems to be quite real from what I could gather. [url]https://8chan.co/gg/res/54244.html[/url]

So a load of prats have decided to make this into some big deal, and by doing it have now given AGG a shitton more ammunition with which to twist words and misinform more people. Fantastic. I'm getting sick of all the arseholes.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46159364]So a load of prats have decided to make this into some big deal, and by doing it have now given AGG a shitton more ammunition with which to twist words and misinform more people. Fantastic. I'm getting sick of all the arseholes.[/QUOTE] It takes itself way too seriously, but it doesn't give any sort of ammo to AGG, nor does it show any correlation with any sort of hate campaign as AGG seems to portray it.

[QUOTE=_Axel;46159444]It takes itself way too seriously, but it doesn't give any sort of ammo to AGG, nor does it show any correlation with any sort of hate campaign as AGG seems to portray it.[/QUOTE] It shows the exact opposite actually.

That document is real. It was started on /v/ threads like the 1st or 2nd week. I still remember it being like 5 pages long. It's basically just people being retarded though. No wonder pretty much no one knew about it, since most people don't share it really.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46159319]There has to be some organization for it to have accomplished what it has. People don't just mass email advertisers for no reason. Though I doubt RogueStarGamez had anything to do with it and just wants to be "in".[/QUOTE] It's not an organization, it's just one person posting on a forum or message board that they've sent an angry letter to a company and other people going "oh that's a good idea" and doing the same thing. An organization implies that they are a group of people who all believe or are payed to believe the same thing. Just because the GG movement coincides with the beliefs of a large number of people does not mean those people are being coerced or otherwise told what to do. Everyone is acting of their own impetus. It's not being [b][i]organized[/i][/b] in any way.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46159319]There has to be some organization for it to have accomplished what it has. People don't just mass email advertisers for no reason. Though I doubt RogueStarGamez had anything to do with it and just wants to be "in".[/QUOTE] The reason why Gamergate has gotten as far as it has was because there [I]was[/I] no absolute direction, there was no leadership. It's a bunch of people sharing ideas and doing what they felt like. Maybe someone says "hey maybe we should email advertisers," but there's nothing forcing anyone to do that. It's the reason why all these new pieces of information are being dug up, it's because it's a whole bunch of people exploring leads on their own terms with different approaches. I don't think this would've worked with any actual leadership structure.

Just because there's no formal organization or leadership, doesn't mean GamerGate is unorganized. Plans constantly get posted on 8chan, and while you're right that participation isn't required, it's still getting large groups of people to do (or not do) something, i.e. organization. If plans weren't posted on 8chan, such as telling people to contact advertisers to pull from sites, it'd be a mess and as effective as Occupy Wall Street. 8chan is the central hub pushing GamerGate, as was 4chan prior to banning it. Anyways, this is a semantics argument so I'm not going to continue on this.

Reading some antigg stuff that gets posted now they don't even hate the assholes in the gaming comunnity they hate anyone who has ever played a video game ever ,the SJWs trying to lead them arnt even attempting to reel any of this in.

alert: [t]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzNZQ2iCcAA0hPd.jpg:large[/t] also, roguestargamez shouldn't be making this a glorified "operation". it's ammo for the opposition. denounce that page and anything involving "operation vox populi". devi ever is currently infighting with @nero (milo) on twitter while using the #gamergate tag. devi ever is hurting the cause for infighting within the tag and trying to use the tag to out milo as a hypocrite, despite saying herself in her own stream that she disagrees with milo but is okay with setting aside differences. denounce devi ever and don't give her any more attention.

Hopefully the thunderclap will help normalize things. It's at 1,361 with a reach of over 371k people and it has 4 days left.

Wait, is this the same Devi Ever who also makes custom guitar pedal effects?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4[/media]

That's fucking Ace. An easy to digest, 60 second video that clearly states our goals is exactly what we need. If people are confused, link them that.

This has most likely been brought up, but with the recent drama involving Warhorsestudios(kingdom Come: Deliverance devs) being blacklisted on a majority of gaming sites, the very sites in facepunch's news node. Anyone else just cant pull themselves to browse that section anymore? It was the first thing I did when I got on my computer in the morning. good news Is that several prominent youtubers have their back, [url]https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/518715071841976320[/url][B][/B]

[QUOTE=Ithon;46161548][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4[/media][/QUOTE] This is the most ace video I've yet seen that can summarize all the GamerGate stuff. [QUOTE=Elsiane;46161725]This has most likely been brought up, but with the recent drama involving Warhorsestudios(kingdom Come: Deliverance devs) being blacklisted on a majority of gaming sites, the very sites in facepunch's news node. Anyone else just cant pull themselves to browse that section anymore? It was the first thing I did when I got on my computer in the morning. good news Is that several prominent youtubers have their back, [url]https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/518715071841976320[/url][B][/B][/QUOTE] Why is no one covering this game?

[QUOTE=Thlis;46158138]I don't know what a citation is, is this a citation? [img]http://i.imgur.com/hrbACzb.png[/img][/QUOTE] *grabs throat* back the fuck off???!!!

So, some people were concerned that I was purposefully trying to harass/attack Zoe Quinn, and many people were raising this concern without first talking to me. In response, I decided to post the full conversation I had with Zoe Quinn to prove I'm more than willing to talk to her and approach her in good faith: [url]https://twitter.com/SdoctmdPlays/status/518980936894259200[/url] It's pinned on my page. Full thing below: [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/W6h7xIG.png[/thumb]