Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Ithon;46233927]this works right. [url]http://youtu.be/qqFz4HsDaq0[/url] can people hear me? I'll invited people to stream via facpunch pm if that works[/QUOTE] Would probably join but problem is that I'm at college right now so ya, can't

Patton Oswalt decided to stir up shit with the GG crowd on twitter, and yes it is ugly.

[QUOTE=gudman;46233930]To get hearts and minds even in perspective, we have to make sure we're heard. If not for the ad campaign, we'd never reach the public at all.[/QUOTE] But we're [I]not[/I] reaching the public with the ad campaign. That's not getting any message out whatsoever. That's literally doing nothing to promote the movement. Its just cutting funding to certain sites and that is it. That doesn't spread any message at all.

[QUOTE=gudman;46233930]To get hearts and minds even in perspective, we have to make sure we're heard. If not for the ad campaign, we'd never reach the public at all. Plus it's hardly an issue, honestly. We're misogynistic MRA right-wing fat nazi neckbearded bastards living in our moms' basements. Pulling ads hardly adds to that. [editline]14th October 2014[/editline] Yeah it works perfectly[/QUOTE] people just feel like we're supporting censorship, they don't understand the consumer power we're using, i would love to educate them but our words fall on deaf ears anyways. What we need to do is get the articles we're getting, and get more of them, get more small websites that can take a rational look at this, and signal boost it.

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;46234089]Patton Oswalt decided to stir up shit with the GG crowd on twitter, and yes it is ugly.[/QUOTE] Ooooh do tell.

[QUOTE=Da Vinci3;46234191]Ooooh do tell.[/QUOTE] posting #gamergate in sarcasm while being misinformed. typical behavior.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/H1pPUA8.png[/img] :downs: pro tip: 8chan uses IDs to identify who is posting what. you do the math.

This is why I'm not very hopeful right now and why I'm losing faith in the movement. Its not because Brianna Wu got on the news and said mean things about us. Its because she did this and now we just want to bitch to ourselves about it and not do a goddamn thing. Its a fucking pity party! All we want to do is feel sad about ourselves because our side isn't getting heard, then jerk off to pictures of them being mean to us until we feel better about ourselves. Or we go on twitter, confront them for a bit until they block us and go "Hah!"

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46234230]This is why I'm not very hopeful right now and why I'm losing faith in the movement. [/QUOTE] why the fuck aren't you emailing advertisers right now? you're worried about the movement but you ain't doin' shit. then do more. help the movement.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46234110]But we're [I]not[/I] reaching the public with the ad campaign. That's not getting any message out whatsoever. That's literally doing nothing to promote the movement. Its just cutting funding to certain sites and that is it. That doesn't spread any message at all.[/QUOTE] We don't. People who are getting their ad revenue cut do. Yeah they publish extremely negative pieces. But that's enough. They're getting the word out that we exist and are capable of fighting. [editline]14th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46234148]people just feel like we're supporting censorship, they don't understand the consumer power we're using, i would love to educate them but our words fall on deaf ears anyways. What we need to do is get the articles we're getting, and get more of them, get more small websites that can take a rational look at this, and signal boost it.[/QUOTE] We do need other means, I'm not disagreeing. But pulling ads is also a way. Yeah it's not that effective, but compared to doing nothing at all?

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46234248]why the fuck aren't you emailing advertisers right now?[/QUOTE][B]BECAUSE ITS NOT DOING ANYTHING[/B] That's my whole goddamned point. Fuck the advertisers. Thats not spreading a message! [QUOTE=gudman;46234251]We don't. People who are getting their ad revenue cut do. Yeah they publish extremely negative pieces. But that's enough. They're getting the word out that we exist and are capable of fighting.[/QUOTE]And they don't fucking care! That's my point! They can continue to push the exact same narrative they have. They can continue to feign ignorance of what their writers say. They can continue to do whatever they want and still get their side heard. How is our side getting heard by the public? [QUOTE]We do need other means, I'm not disagreeing. But pulling ads is also a way. Yeah it's not that effective, but compared to doing nothing at all?[/QUOTE]It may as well be doing nothing at all. They don't care. They will keep finding new advertisers. And they feel that even without advertisers, they can carry this fight on and keep pushing the same story until they get their advertisers back. You wanna know what I'm doing? I'm gonna make and start putting flyers up around my fucking campus. Put them on the public notice boards, lamp posts, wherever I'm allowed to. I'm going to see if I can get any other students on campus actually organized in any meaningful way, have some kind of public forum on it, anything. I'm going to try to bring it up to the people themselves. Maybe many won't care, maybe its not a large body. But its actually getting the message out there.

[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;46233252][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PYAILma.png?1[/IMG] So by being loud and obnoxious you show how intelligent and informed you are. The only thing right about it is that she was dominating, but for all the wrong reasons. I never really bothered reading the reactions in Twitter, but this is oddly infuriatingly amusing.[/QUOTE] actual reasons I am afraid of @spacekatgal: [img]http://i.imgur.com/6C5ZaxV.png[/img] aaaaaAAAAAAAA

I really can't tell if Patton Oswald is trolling or not, but Will Wheaton certainly isn't. I just don't get it, these people really are dumber than i thought, pretty much everyone here can call themselves smarter than these people, these people just come into these things without facts or fuck all. It really is a classic case of the pigeon and the chessboard.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46234343][B]BECAUSE ITS NOT DOING ANYTHING[/B][/QUOTE] oh okay more advertisers didnt pull from gamasutra yesterday ok and intel the biggest one to pull from gamasutra hasn't pulled their advertisements ok kotaku didnt announce that they will no longer be receiving early copies of video games ok oklol we're doing nothing everyone pack up and go home edit: oh sorry nvm i was wrong these websites are actually literally crumbling.

so most moderate posters in the giantbomb thread has come to the conclusion that we should be blaming the individuals, not pinning them to either side. except the anti-ggers are still going rampant, calling pro-ggers doxxers and jerks and comparing them to the tea party.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46234398]oh okay more advertisers didnt pull from gamasutra yesterday ok and intel the biggest one to pull from gamasutra hasn't pulled their advertisements ok kotaku didnt announce that they will no longer be receiving early copies of video games ok oklol we're doing nothing everyone pack up and go home edit: oh sorry nvm i was wrong these websites are actually literally crumbling.[/QUOTE] we'll see what the longer term result is. it's too early to tell.

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;46234409]so most moderate posters in the giantbomb thread has come to the conclusion that we should be blaming the individuals, not pinning them to either side. except the anti-ggers are still going rampant, calling pro-ggers doxxers and jerks and comparing them to the tea party.[/QUOTE] Journalists don't want that though, which is why they actively refuse to report about individuals causing problems and make it seem like it's larger then that. Plain and simple. I'm pretty sure every one of those sites has broken journalistic integrity a million times over.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46234398]oh okay more advertisers didnt pull from gamasutra yesterday ok and intel the biggest one to pull from gamasutra hasn't pulled their advertisements ok kotaku didnt announce that they will no longer be receiving early copies of video games ok oklol we're doing nothing everyone pack up and go home edit: oh sorry nvm i was wrong these websites are actually literally crumbling.[/QUOTE] I guess we'll see in six months when these sites have outlived the movement. You tell me when you start seeing people going "GamerGate! Yeah, I heard about it when those advertisements got pulled from a couple gaming news sites and they all agreed that it was because of misogynist harassers. Yeah, they've got a valid point about... uhh..."

[QUOTE=Wii60;46234082]Would probably join but problem is that I'm at college right now so ya, can't[/QUOTE] I'll stay up till whenever. To host a verbal dialog. To all the people who have doubt, this war of information is based upon willpower. Believe in yourself, if you don't, believe in me who believes in you. [quote]You wanna know what I'm doing? I'm gonna make and start putting flyers up around my fucking campus. Put them on the public notice boards, lamp posts, wherever I'm allowed to. I'm going to see if I can get any other students on campus actually organized in any meaningful way, have some kind of public forum on it, anything. I'm going to try to bring it up to the people themselves. Maybe many won't care, maybe its not a large body. But its actually getting the message out there.[/quote] That's a good idea, take assertiveness.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46234453]I guess we'll see in six months when these sites have outlived the movement. You tell me when you start seeing people going "GamerGate! Yeah, I heard about it when those advertisements got pulled from a couple gaming news sites and they all agreed that it was because of misogynist harassers. Yeah, they've got a valid point about... uhh..."[/QUOTE] Really the best course of action is to laugh and prepare the future generation for actual work and critical thinking and less useless degrees that help shit up multiple industries not just related to gaming.

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[QUOTE=TheJoey;46234024][img]http://i.imgur.com/um20034.png[/img] tweet was deleted. which is unfortunate. waiting to see if cameralady had archived it.[/QUOTE] To be honest, as a person with Autism this offends me, I hope Brianna doesn't get off lightly with what she said.

Just a reminder, the Facepunch GG Google Hangout/stream/chat is still a thing. I've talked to Reimu about it since he did a great job on his own stream a few days ago. We're aiming for a saturday stream, somewhere around this time (so both europeans and americans would be able to participate). We'd be having a voice chat for roughly 1 or 2 hours, with around 5 - 7 people. If you'd like to be a part of this or if you have any kind of feedback feel free to shot it at me.

[QUOTE=Xonax;46234505]To be honest, as a person with Autism this offends me, I hope Brianna doesn't get off lightly with what she said.[/QUOTE] she claims she was hacked.

the imgur posted was the one 8chan one with the same id tag [t]http://i.imgur.com/u27Gu30.png[/t] [editline]14th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TheJoey;46234612]she claims she was hacked.[/QUOTE] isn't that what they all say? [img]http://i.imgur.com/6FNVKnU.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Turnips5;46234345]actual reasons I am afraid of @spacekatgal: [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/6C5ZaxV.png[/img_thumb] aaaaaAAAAAAAA[/QUOTE] Another reason: Somehow the three protagonists are wearing a catsuit, a one-piece swimsuit, and a cocktail dress respectively and yet do not receive any attention from the Anti-Sex League.

[QUOTE=uber.;46234584]Just a reminder, the Facepunch GG Google Hangout/stream/chat is still a thing. I've talked to Reimu about it since he did a great job on his own stream a few days ago. We're aiming for a saturday stream, somewhere around this time (so both europeans and americans would be able to participate). We'd be having a voice chat for roughly 1 or 2 hours, with around 5 - 7 people. If you'd like to be a part of this or if you have any kind of feedback feel free to shot it at me.[/QUOTE] Heh, I was going to send a PM to you to stream exactly that :D

does anyone have a link to KOP's stream? I was sleeping (fuck timezones) [editline]15th October 2014[/editline] + If anyone did post it, YouTube isn't working for me atm so all the embeds have big sad faces in them

patrick klepek believes 8chan was created solely for gamergate.

New article on Kotaku about Sarkesian receiving a bomb threat at a speaking event.