Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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note the hulu email isnt 100% verified yet, it just got out like 30-40 min ago
[QUOTE=Zyler;46209580]Problem is these gaming journalists have enormous power over the coverage that game developers receive and the success of those games. They've been colluding with certain 'developers' (if you can even call the people who make games in Twine or Unity in 6 hours developers) who are their friends and collegues while ignoring or not even mentioning actual game developers because they either don't like their political beliefs, because those developers don't give the games journalists special privileges like free ipods and hookers (I have to find the article that talks about this).
Here's a good blod post about it from a game dev: [URL]http://www.littletinyfrogs.com/article/457741/GamerGatethe_free_ride_is_over[/URL]
The reason people complain is stuff like this
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gets massive praise and attention while stuff like this:
gets completely ignored and blacklisted from sites like gamasutra despite being a incredibly promising title because they don't like the developers.
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What the fuck is that? Did I step through some sort of portal that took me back to the 90's and stumbled upon the result of some 12 year old downloading a bunch of renders and using them with some free to download game engine?
If I read a article on some famous "gaming media" website my first thought would be is that the entire website is satirical.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46273466]Angry joe is getting too much shit.
Listen, I fucking hate him for his content, I dislike it, I go to TB for better AJ content.
But thats personal, ultimately angry joe got involved against his will and fucking assholes using his dead friend as a crutch.
Can we please give him the benefit of the doubt being mad over that? That would make almost any sane person mad, you dont talk shit about dead friends to someone to win them over, you also dont speak for them.[/QUOTE]
Seems like he finally noticed something was off after learning about those charities etc just now.
He mentioned going back and reading those articles that really got this backlash going, so I guess he'll be back with an informed opinion in a few hours.
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[QUOTE=TheJoey;46273637]SJWs dont donate to causes. they just ask for donations for themselves, and other SJWs that will help them out.[/QUOTE]
This whole ordeal has been made much more entertaining with wordfilters that turn sjw things into Skeleton things. does make things more confusing some times though.
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[QUOTE=Wii60;46274450]todays joke is a gawker email sent to staff about using twitter
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Gawker is exactly the type of place I would expect language like "hills to die on" and concepts of journalistic bravery alongside Tweets encouraging bullying.
Yet again circling the wagons hurts their side because instead of simply throwing the guy (deservedly) under the bus, letting him apologize, and walking away with a little bit of pride, Gawker now has egg on it's face. Not only tacitly allowing bullying, but outright calling it a "dumb joke".
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Seriously, here is how you do it: Shoot an email to the guy saying "Hey, I get what you were saying, but maybe not endorse bullying on Twitter while you work for us". Then if he is okay with it, whatever. If he decides that's the "hill he wants to die on" then let him die defending bullying on his own with you on record showing you don't approve. Gawker should hire me. I'm the perfect employee for an organization of their esteem.
I may not have a journalism degree but I sure can type a lot of bullshit on the internet.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46274812]Gawker is exactly the type of place I would expect language like "hills to die on" and concepts of journalistic bravery alongside Tweets encouraging bullying.
Yet again circling the wagons hurts their side because instead of simply throwing the guy (deservedly) under the bus, letting him apologize, and walking away with a little bit of pride, Gawker now has egg on it's face. Not only tacitly allowing bullying, but outright calling it a "dumb joke".[/QUOTE]
If only that was the case, that this actually hurt them and wasn't just something to futilely try pointing out while everyone else cries harassment because a throwaway twitter account was mean to them. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but it seems like their attempts to distract from the issue and protect themselves have been effective.
Funny given a few weeks ago I was talking about how this whole fiasco with journalists acting objectively poorly and unprofessionally would immunise people to the kind of tricks they use. Should've known better given they're derivations of tricks people have used in politics for decades.
Uber I think I derailed the stream a bit at one point, you had a schedule and I missed it up and I'm sorry to everyone. opps
errata: national politics not geo political world though that included.
When I was talking about examples of vices of people having the spotlight on them, I forgot michael vick and the abuse of dogs. I didn't mean to just discuss infidelity but any dark corner. And yes Reimu you did put me on track and I didn't mean adulterer but an abuser of several things.
shock jock not jock shock.
When I mentioned someone emotionally abusing me, I did paint her in a highly negative light when we would get along if we didn't talk to each other and then over time lead to arguing and or miscommunicating, however my ex room mate was far more vicious in using emotional abuse tactics to run around subjects.
umm also angry joe continued to chat and yeah hearts.
one more thing, for inspiration if you have a huge chunk of time to go through an entire series babylon 5 is a good one to currently watch.
here's footage from space city con 2014's b5 pannel to also inspire you if you do not have the time.
[url]http://youtu.be/_ddmhaO_Qo8?t=29m10s[/url]
man, bab 5 was my fave back in the day; sad how that season 4.5 shit is still hilariously topical...
sighâ„¢
goes back to season 1 and shows more of it's importance in season 3, in my opinion. Remember nightwatch. If only that space sim came out then been canned then /v/ would have waved that banner.
So to note someone compared shadows to sjw, what if they aren't the shadows but the shadows are forces used to make people take sides and fight one an other, to knock down the ant hills, have the strong survive then just people want to see the world burn.
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So to note someone compared shadows to sjw, what if they aren't the shadows but the shadows are forces used to make people take sides and fight one an other, to knock down the ant hills, have the strong survive then just people want to see the world burn.[/QUOTE]
Then we need to find those shadows and tell them to fuck off out of our galaxy then.
IMO Babylon 5 went to shit after[sp]season 4 because Marcus died and Ivanova left :([/sp]
I'd say EarthGov is much stronger example, cover your ass while throwing everyone else under the bus, and doing it incredibly sloppily, with only the march of bureaucracy to mire everything in BS.
Speaking of which, the part that galls me is how people can think GJP is a "trade board", I mean the fucking emails where Orland says "fuck em and cover it over, cast suspicion on them directly" is there as plain as day, coupled with Niero calling the news arm "his brand"; I mean that's some tv-level cartoon villain shit right there.
[QUOTE=mcattack1092;46276063]Then we need to find those shadows and tell them to fuck off out of our galaxy then.
IMO Babylon 5 went to shit after[sp]season 4 because Marcus died and Ivanova left :([/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] MJS said if he'd known Claudia was leaving to do TV movies of the week, he would have reversed who got killed, cause he really really liked Carter. (Marcus was supposed to get blown up much earlier in the series.[/sp]
[quote]But this company is for all of us[/quote]
The level of self-driven immaturity is mind boggling.
[QUOTE=mcattack1092;46276063]Then we need to find those shadows and tell them to fuck off out of our galaxy then.
IMO Babylon 5 went to shit after[sp]season 4 because Marcus died and Ivanova left :([/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Don't forget Delenn and Sheridan's coup de'tat.[/sp]
[QUOTE=27X;46276066]I'd say EarthGov is much stronger example, cover your ass while throwing everyone else under the bus, and doing it incredibly sloppily, with only the march of bureaucracy to mire everything in BS.
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I think SJWs share a lot of similarities with EarthGov especially [sp]with the end of season 4 where the Alliance fleet was pushing against Earth so President Clark turned the defense grid against the planet's surface as a way of throwing the whole fucking planet under the bus with a scorched earth tactic because he was cornered with no way out. Instead of Earth it is the gaming industry. The SJWs just want to do as much damage as possible before it is all over.[/sp]
Oh god the MSNBC stream just started and it's literally Anita-level cherry picking.
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[url]http://www.hitbox.tv/kingofpol[/url]
totalbiscuit put up a audio log about weaponized charities
[media]http://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/weaponised-charity[/media]
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[QUOTE=Durrsly;46277200]Oh god the MSNBC stream just started and it's literally Anita-level cherry picking.
[editline]19th October 2014[/editline]
[url]http://www.hitbox.tv/kingofpol[/url][/QUOTE]
this is next level pr spin
Next thing they're going to say is that she's an academic.
they threw the NRA into #gamergate
how can anyone be anti-gg.
Now I don't have to worry about my family supporting her since she wants to attack the NRA as well.
I find it bizarre how the anti-GG representation of GamerGate is that it's a movement full of hate for anyone who doesn't support them, artificially creating an 'Us vs Them' mentality with censorship abound and a lot of abuse flung at people for which the harassers face no consequence.
... It almost sounds like they're projecting.
I agree. Pay close attention to how these journalists talk about gamers, especially when the insults become very personal.
A lot of it is journalists projecting themselves onto gamers. That's, at least, what industry folks have told me in the past few weeks.
if you have a hitbox, change your email and pass now.
anti-gg hacked it last night (ralph retort saw it live) and a pastebin is out with ips and emails/pass.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46277353]if you have a hitbox, change your email and pass now.
anti-gg hacked it last night (ralph retort saw it live) and a pastebin is out with ips and emails/pass.[/QUOTE]
can't wait for the ralph retort to give them a phone call like they said they would.
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[QUOTE=Wii60;46277353]if you have a hitbox, change your email and pass now.
anti-gg hacked it last night (ralph retort saw it live) and a pastebin is out with ips and emails/pass.[/QUOTE]
Can we see a list?
[QUOTE=Swilly;46277564]Can we see a list?[/QUOTE]
i can try to find it, but its out there because alot of people are talkin about it
Changed mine up anyway.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/iXNPJAJ.jpg[/t]
Some are following Boogie and Northernlion.
[url]http://store.steampowered.com/curators/topcurators/#p2[/url]
When is the second stream mentioned yesterday going to be started?
I'd say next saturday the same time only one hour earlier.
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