Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46288828]So a Dutch guy asked for information for a TV thing. Calling himself a journalist and all that.
Later on he complains that all the emails he got contained to many links. Sourcing your shit.. the horror.[/QUOTE]
What's his name?
Info dump on Gawker. The info reveals: [sp]They are shit[/sp]
[URL="http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/10/20/publishers-statement-regarding-mike-cernovichs-twitter-conduct/"]http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/10/20/publishers-statement-regarding-mike-cernovichs-twitter-conduct/[/URL]
[QUOTE][video=youtube;2zZFmfcLyNA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zZFmfcLyNA[/video][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hidole555;46290108]Info dump on Gawker. The info reveals: [sp]They are shit[/sp]
[URL="http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/10/20/publishers-statement-regarding-mike-cernovichs-twitter-conduct/"]http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/10/20/publishers-statement-regarding-mike-cernovichs-twitter-conduct/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Jesus that site is legitimately the worst fucking thing. Inhabited by self-admitted "red pillers", the author is a huge jackass from the sounds of it (gotta speak in third person, gotta juice it bro, lift every day betas). Shit, there's even some full on illuminati conspiracy nonsense from the author, if this site isn't a satire then all fucking hope is lost for that guy.
Even if the tweets are real (which we knew they were any way because [B]everybody has seen the damn things now[/B]), linking to a site like that isn't going to go down well when trying to prove anything to anti-GG people. They will brush the site off because it is pretty "mens rights"-y, shit the guy who runs it barely even tries to hide it. And they'd be right to brush it off really, MR stuff is fucking stupid.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;46290226]that isn't going to go down well when trying to prove anything to anti-GG people. [/QUOTE]
who says everything we have has to be palatable to anti-GG? we get neutral people every day who are interested in this but have never seen those tweets showing that Gawker isn't just populated by assholes, but by [I]hypocritical[/I] assholes.
if you've got links that would serve that purpose much better, then by all means, post them. not everyone is on the same page as we are
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sWM7kJ1.png[/IMG]
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamergate/[/URL]
Looks like this became a repository for Sonic/pony shipping fanart.
Not like it matters when you have r/kotakuinaction anyways.
Just published an article I think you all might like! It's kind of like an SJ antithesis to "gamers are dead," in that it suggests that all gamers have something in common: loving the dynamic choices and playthroughs that video games allow us to enjoy.
[url]http://www.dailytargum.com/article/2014/10/why-gamers-play[/url]
You know, I was looking through the twitter history regarding Dale North's departure, and its almost exclusively the pro-GG side giving him in support, even any mention. I'm seeing little support from others who were so vocal about other departures in the past, and basically anything that might be blamed on the movement.
[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]
Also, got new thread music, because I think its pretty much perfect.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC2A4wqR-fE[/media]
I picked this one in particular because I saw someone talking about Dale North's departure asking "What has been going on in gaming?" And my first thought was the last line of the chorus, "The roof is on fire and we're ready to blow."
But literally the entire song is perfectly accurate. (And like half their discography.)
I've been listening to a lot of Dropkick Murphys lately because it goes really well with Warthunder.
[QUOTE=Reimu;46290770]Just published an article I think you all might like! It's kind of like an SJ antithesis to "gamers are dead," in that it suggests that all gamers have something in common: loving the dynamic choices and playthroughs that video games allow us to enjoy.
[url]http://www.dailytargum.com/article/2014/10/why-gamers-play[/url][/QUOTE]
One thing bugs me about the site (in general):
Why do a few of the headlines look like they were forcibly shortened by cutting conjunctions and other smaller words?
Things like [quote]Amidst {the} industry crisis, {it's} important to remember why gamers play[/quote][quote]Rutgers should develop more cohesive sense of identity[del],[/del] {and} culture [/quote][quote]Brain death: Conflict between quality[del],[/del] {and} length of life[/quote][[del]deletions[/del] and {insertions} mine]
look really strange if you undo the edits.
I haven't seen this kind of title anywhere else lately, likely because it breaks the flow when reading.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;46289364]more kotaku bs
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UnhRQ6W.png[/IMG]
[URL]https://archive.today/52Vx2[/URL][/QUOTE]
My friends and I have been waiting for this to happen for years. I'm loving it.
I have to say de-ja-vu with the gamegate are dead slash I'm tired of gamergate article though I haven't through these yet. Like what I said on the stream about the gamers are dead, first it's I don't know and I'm tired, second was who they were, third is the solution.
I may be stretching things a bit (hello to all the guests who read this), but I think going to the main stream media is just the first in a several stringed attack on all of us, first we are painted in the media as both people who hate women and are immature, then they take advantage of the mantra of 15 mins of fame and back out saying it's over being the voice in the 15 mins and people's mind have solidified their opinion, next in a wave to ride back on they'll bring 'experts of authority' spinning the phenomenon as something insidious after all propaganda has already been set in the minds to hear it again gives people with goldfish brains "hey I know this, I'm smart because people told me they are bad, I can talk before the tv can respond" I say goldfish when compared to music being slandered and threatened before, next they will bring in the solution censorship bills to require servers to hold data and become the police structure that others has we've seen been doing.
Remember, we already know plenty so play it like philip glass till the crunch breaks, always find more corruption which dosen't have to be SJW related, and talk to your family that you can trust and they can trust you. Family will fight for family, especially when they know you're telling the truth.
Edit: 3333th post yall
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4cgtT75.png[/IMG]
lol
I can't help but laugh at the kotaku article with the whole "Hey I'm tired and other people are tired".
These people never do learn, they could've actually gotten away with it if they never acknowledged gamergate and just kept going. Yet for some reason every month they bring back into the spotlight and motivate the opposition by reminding them wha they fight against. Not only that but they also provide even more evidence of collusion.
It reminds me of 12 year old me, where if I went "I'm right and you're wrong, lalalalala I can't hear you" I thought I could somehow 'win' at arguing. They post their "gamergate is dead" articles like we all forgot about the failed "gamers are dead" campaign they had and assume the opposition will literally believe them, THE PEOPLE WE DON'T TRUST, and just give up. In fact I could only see their side lose in this because it would make their "Listen and Believe" followers think that gamergate no longer exists and do nothing to combat because it's "over". That or they would literally notice it's still going strong and start to question why their trusted journalist lied.
They are pretty much acting against themselves.
so 8chan is fried, /gg/ getting spammed with anita sarkeesian videos. then i look on twitter and see king of pol fighting with liz f and literally blowing his spaghetti all over the fucking place, donating to autism speaks because he thought camera lady was offended by an autism joke he made. jesus fucking christ shut this guy up
[QUOTE=Wii60;46288570][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/BFcfFr8.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0cPQ8PCQAAxLfk.png:large[/img]
Sounds about right.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;46289364]more kotaku bs
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UnhRQ6W.png[/IMG]
[URL]https://archive.today/52Vx2[/URL][/QUOTE]
yes i am tired kotaku
tired of your bullshit
edit:
i just realized someone said the same thing above, fuck it i guess im tired of reading too
New article: Targets of Ethical Complaints Tired of Being Called Out, "Just Want Everyone to Get Along"
It's amazing how people listen to the journalists suspected of corruption when they say "Nope, we're totally not corrupt! Those guys, they're just misogynists." It's literally like making the suspect of a crime choose whether or not to be charged.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46290427][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sWM7kJ1.png[/IMG]
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamergate/[/URL]
Looks like this became a repository for Sonic/pony shipping fanart.
Not like it matters when you have r/kotakuinaction anyways.[/QUOTE]
That is impressive actually ,i know there is that much sonic/mlp ship art but to actually go through and change every single post to a different piece....
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46291522]It's amazing how people listen to the journalists suspected of corruption when they say "Nope, we're totally not corrupt! Those guys, they're just misogynists." It's literally like making the suspect of a crime choose whether or not to be charged.[/QUOTE]
It's a two prong slander besides being called autistic, it's misogynist and spoiled child. You can leave the sexism out and push that propaganda forward, I've seen it pop up on my facebook here and there now. "people complained about the ME3 ending, tomb raider elusive, watch dogs, pc master race, and ect, they are just kids who always complain about the slightest thing. People who are pro-gg are tools".
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46291522]It's amazing how people listen to the journalists suspected of corruption when they say "Nope, we're totally not corrupt! Those guys, they're just misogynists." It's literally like making the suspect of a crime choose whether or not to be charged.[/QUOTE]
It's the media who are expected to report on corruption and all that stuff. When they are themselves corrupt, it creates a strange situation where one media company has to report on another one. And since media is EXTREMELY prone to come in cahoot with one another, they are reluctant to call each other out besides some minor, almost friendly, pushes to the shoulder.
Far too often people are told to trust the media. Pluralism! A media piece for every viewpoint! They are in a competition situation! That prevents them from becoming corrupt, because the moment they screw up, their competitors will use it! When in reality, the competition ended a long time ago and now everyone lives by the cartel-like rules.
And this is why pulling advertisement and trying to make ourselves talked about is the only way for GG to operate, because media is bigger, stronger, they're all big friends and they want to see GG mocked into the ground. That's why they don't have problems screwing up all over the place with their stupidity, they're absolutely sure no other journalist will call them out, and thus it'll never reach wide audience.
In fact, now that I said it, I think that the reason they couldn't just shut the fuck up about GG and ignore us at the start has less to do with us being as annoying as we think we are, and more with the fact that they thought they were toying with us. Now their pockets feel it.
I know that the content is not directly related to this thread, but I saw the first comment and it reminded me of you guys.
[url]https://archive.today/2cxr9[/url]
Just read the piece about Gamergate written by Charlie Brooker since it was just sent to me just now. Wasn't Charlie Brooker a judge in some event that Sarkeesian was either in as a judge or hosting at some point?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vnNhZnA.png[/img]
she's right
also, milo and IA are in chicago together for some reason. i expect something good.
this is a perfect-haired being that fights for us
[img]http://i.imgur.com/DWlFRCO.jpg[/img]
[editline]21st October 2014[/editline]
also, from someone in the industry, anonymously, on 8chan/gg:
[quote]Industryfag here, just throwing you guys some kudos:
[url]https://archive.today/ACfRK[/url]
>Early this month, Intel announced that it would cease advertising on Gamasutra. It would later claim that it was unaware of Gamergate when it made its decision, but that it would stand by the decision and not advertise on Gamasutra. A handful of trolls, vaguely waving their hands about a non-existent sex scandal, had successfully bullied a corporation with a $158 billion market capitalization into doing their bidding.
Someone explain to me how effectively calling a $158 billion dollar company a pussy is favourable to their cause?
Let alone A HANDFUL.
Keep it up people. They are hemorrhaging support and money like you would not believe.
Behind the scenes, people are freaking out and phones are ringing off the hook. The media blitz was organized by PR folks over the weekend.
Keep the emails going. They are working. A quick hi to devfag. ;3[/quote]
thanks industryfag
[QUOTE=Highwind017;46292803]Just read the piece about Gamergate written by Charlie Brooker since it was just sent to me just now. Wasn't Charlie Brooker a judge in some event that Sarkeesian was either in as a judge or hosting at some point?[/QUOTE]
link to brooker's piece?
[editline]22nd October 2014[/editline]
i'd be so disappointed if he was 'anti gg'
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46293504]link to brooker's piece?
[editline]22nd October 2014[/editline]
i'd be so disappointed if he was 'anti gg'[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/20/gamergate-internet-toughest-game-woman-enemies?CMP=twt_gu&utm_content=bufferbf343&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer"]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/20/gamergate-internet-toughest-game-woman-enemies?CMP=twt_gu&utm_content=bufferbf343&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer[/URL]
Guardian writer is hand-wringing SJW. Whaddascoop.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;46293335][img]http://i.imgur.com/vnNhZnA.png[/img]
she's right[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rusty100;46293504]link to brooker's piece?
[editline]22nd October 2014[/editline]
i'd be so disappointed if he was 'anti gg'[/QUOTE]
I got the impression that he was Anti-GG bias due to the article and him being in the same room as Sarkeesian. (If anyone could send me a link showing that or something, that would be great) I ended up writing about 8 paragraphs on just Charlies "if you don’t know what gamergate is, I’d suggest you Google it..." paragraph.
Either it's bias or ill-informed and i'm leaning towards bias.
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