Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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[QUOTE=Jordax;46295314]And now Adobe is the fourth sponsor to pull their Gawker support!
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0falHQIUAAUeRn.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Revoke their CC licenses just to put salt in the wound too. :v:
[QUOTE=Charades;46296911][url]https://archive.today/gTwMt[/url]
This article has brought me to be completely Pro-GG instead of sitting on the sidelines. I am absolutely livid with the mainstream liberal media and how they've shown their true colors during this fiasco.[/QUOTE]
Just bear in mind that extremism breeds extremism, it's best to keep a cool head troughout all this.
[QUOTE=Charades;46296911][URL]https://archive.today/gTwMt[/URL]
This article has brought me to be completely Pro-GG instead of sitting on the sidelines. I am absolutely livid with the mainstream liberal media and how they've shown their true colors during this fiasco.[/QUOTE]
These articles are expected and normal, it's bullshit they exist but the currently the only "facts" available to these people are from the same people who are in question in the first place.
I am ROYALLY pissed and not going to back down just because a bunch of delusional "mainstream journalists" say I have too.
[quote]They [gamers] will likely never acknowledge their fear of irrelevance and accountability.[/quote]
I am not responsible for some single stupid fucking troll on the internet. I do my best to make sure gaming is an equal place for everyone to enjoy, and so do many others. I donated to charity, protected and defended people from threats and hateful comments, and all I have seen [I]them[/I] do is attempt to claim when I donate to charity I am only doing it "to harass them", when I protect them I am merely doing it "for attention." Their goals are endless and maligned. When they say hateful and spiteful things, it's okay. I don't even do it, and they claim just because I am in the same group as somebody I support it. I don't, and I never will.
Screw you, "gaming journalists."
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;46297132]Just bear in mind that extremism breeds extremism, it's best to keep a cool head troughout all this.[/QUOTE]
If we were still in the nineties you can bet Fox News would be pouncing on the "online gamer hate mob" angle.
It's not about left versus right, it's about truth versus duplicity. Don't play the politics game, that's their game. Pitting people against each other is how they fill their coffers.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;46291203]so 8chan is fried, /gg/ getting spammed with anita sarkeesian videos. then i look on twitter and see king of pol fighting with liz f and literally blowing his spaghetti all over the fucking place, donating to autism speaks because he thought camera lady was offended by an autism joke he made. jesus fucking christ shut this guy up[/QUOTE]
To add to that, last time I heard of them Autism Speaks were denying someone with autism to speak at their conference, because it would be "disrespectful" :v:
There's even a counter-movement going on against that charity because they are somewhat shitty to the people they claim to represent more or less consistently.
From the (one-sided) things I read about them they actually aren't that different from the SJWs, except that they are self-pitying because of having to deal with autistic people in their families instead of wanting to destroy what is "oppressing" them.
I'm not going to bother pointing that out though, both because there's enough pasta and I can't be bothered to look up the details again.
Did anyone note the pc gamer article published today? Not much to day as it was just a regurgitation of the same mantras. I would unfollow on Facebook but free steam games are still too tempting for the time being.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46297212]If we were still in the nineties you can bet Fox News would be pouncing on the "online gamer hate mob" angle.
It's not about left versus right, it's about truth versus duplicity. Don't play the politics game, that's their game. Pitting people against each other is how they fill their coffers.[/QUOTE]
If you want to talk about political influences, GG seems more like a case of liberals vs anti-liberals than left vs right. I've seen leftist and rightist liberals be pro-GG, while the anti-GG people are unwilling to let gaming and gaming journalism be for everyone, instead of just right-wing white men and women pretending to be leftist.
Why the fuck hasnt Garry put a REAL journalism site in the news node like Kotaku?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wScRozW.png[/IMG]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0gOdinIAAAll3c.png:large[/img]
...but Adobe was never a partner with Gawker
It's one thing to send emails and make phone calls, but actually going to their HQ?
What makes her think she will even speak to any higher ups, more importantly what does she have to gain with this? She's a game dev, at face value, this doesn't concern her.
I don't understand, do they actually have any sort of sway or are they really that egotistic? I am being honest here, is there something I am missing?
Sent an email to Adobe praising their stance and showing Wu's diplomatic side. IE, "Stop tweeting to me you gross fucking aspie". Kept GG out of it.
Hahaha Frank Cifaldi originally ran a Seanbaby knock-off site in 2001 and was a notable guy in ROM dumping for years. Funny seeing him go from running in the semi-underground gaming rings to being an anti-GG shill that's going against the people he used to be with. Guess someone got their mid-life crisis early.
HA HA HA - The interns weren't willing to do it for free
[URL]http://www.businessmanagementdaily.com/41201/gawker-is-latest-target-of-unpaid-intern-class-action[/URL]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/g3D49Md.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=finbe;46296862][URL]https://archive.today/obTwW[/URL]
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4237780/sa/emot-munch.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Here is another article involving Chris Kluwe. July 19 2014
[URL]http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24628550/chris-kluwe-cant-be-moral-crusader-after-his-cruel-twitter-rant[/URL]
Also an idiot [url]https://archive.today/QH2z2[/url]
[QUOTE=Psycho9182;46297601][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/g3D49Md.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He looks like he's about to get hit by a bus or something.
[QUOTE=Charades;46296911][URL]https://archive.today/gTwMt[/URL]
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I get the angry men part. That is, I still wouldn't defend this article, but I "get" why she wrote it like that and her mindset. But white? Since when was gamergate about anything racial?
[QUOTE=Ziron;46297340]If you want to talk about political influences, GG seems more like a case of liberals vs anti-liberals than left vs right. I've seen leftist and rightist liberals be pro-GG, while the anti-GG people are unwilling to let gaming and gaming journalism be for everyone, instead of just right-wing white men and women pretending to be leftist.[/QUOTE]
In terms of demographics it seems like most GG supporters are left-center, with a fair bit of far-leftist folks and some conservatives as well. Not surprisingly seems like a cross section of online gaming communities as a whole.
[QUOTE=1legmidget;46295505]We've got to hit nissan, scion, and lexus hard now. bmw and mercedes backed their support and they're in the same industry. Let them know that their competitors look a hell of a lot better than them at the moment because they haven't publicly decried bullying and still are considered sponsors of Gawker/bullying
EDIT:
Also we should probably try to reach out to [URL="https://twitter.com/JohnLegere"]John Lengere[/URL] since he's pretty heavily invested in his comapany's rep.[/QUOTE]
Done. I think you can count on toyota pulling their support soon from three sites.
[editline]22nd October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46297831]I get the angry men part. That is, I still wouldn't defend this article, but I "get" why she wrote it like that and her mindset. But white? Since when was gamergate about anything racial?
In terms of demographics it seems like most GG supporters are left-center, with a fair bit of far-leftist folks and some conservatives as well. Not surprisingly seems like a cross section of online gaming communities as a whole.[/QUOTE]
I'm as a apolitical as fuck as someone can get, it's just about common sense, common decency, and an end to manipulation for selfish intent.
[QUOTE=truckilles;46297322]Did anyone note the pc gamer article published today? Not much to day as it was just a regurgitation of the same mantras. I would unfollow on Facebook but free steam games are still too tempting for the time being.[/QUOTE]
It was disgustingly biased. I laughed hard at the Q & A she had with herself.
[i]pic taken from 88chan, camera girl talking about eron 3000 in the hole and a donation section[/i]
hopefully this won't turn into a mess where dozens of people are sued.
[QUOTE=MasterKade;46296716]I don't think anyone posted it, but here's Gameinformer's stance on the issue:
[URL]http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/10/20/game-informer-on-gamergate.aspx[/URL]
(not quoted because it's a little long)[/QUOTE]
They're owned fullstop by GS, they will never report on any subject that will cost them sales, and GS marketing works with them directly to get payola exclusives, and has since they were purchased. That is the most paragraphs of deflected apologism I've read in a long time, and the telling part is the linking of the threats directly to #GG.
To my knowledge neither threat was ever linked definitely in any way or form to GG at all. So saying it is factually known, is a lie, pure and simple, and they know it, especially in light of SA goons being known to have attempted to incite shit on both sides of the fence with actions like these.
This is what is wrong with games "journalism"; there is literally no journalism present. No fact checking, no digging around, no scrupulous as fuck editor breathing down your neck to get your shit straight or face the wrath of the ghost of Edward R Murrow, for three nights until you run screaming down the streets screaming "I'LL NEVER YELLOW AGAIN, I PROMISE" on Xmas morning.
This, kids, is why insulation is cancerous. When all you do every day is spend time in an echo chamber, no matter how well reasoned and good-intentioned you may be, you're going to perpetrate this kind of shit. It's inevitable.
Jonathan McInt-I mean Anita has figured out where this whole GamerGate thing started; a parody video made by a /v/irgin in 2013!
[url]https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/524713524979712000[/url]
All hail Jonathan McInto...err Anita, for her infinite wisdom!
[QUOTE=Ithon;46298002][img]https://8chan.co/gg/src/1413928916189.jpg[/img]
hopefully this won't turn into a mess where dozens of people are sued.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if anti-GG will try to shutdown his patreon.
[B]Waiting for confirmation, Nothing confirmed yet[/B]
Again, waiting for confirmation, nothing confirmed yet.
[URL]https://twitter.com/FartToContinue/status/524718772469641216/photo/1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ziron;46298126]Jonathan McInt-I mean Anita has figured out where this whole GamerGate thing started; a parody video made by a /v/irgin in 2013!
[url]https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/524713524979712000[/url]
All hail Jonathan McInto...err Anita, for her infinite wisdom![/QUOTE]
That's one video of a whole series, so does that really, um, constitute a whole league of misogyny?
[QUOTE=john_pelphre;46298230]That's one video of a whole series, so does that really, um, constitute a whole league of misogyny?[/QUOTE]
When you're apart of a circlejerk group, they'll believe anything you tell them. They won't even check out the rest of the series because of the "misogyny".
Also, I was reading the Democracy Now article of Anita's interview. She said this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/L0bthLm.png[/img]
But doesn't that contradict with this?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VZ9HNnz.png[/img]
[editline]21st October 2014[/editline]
Well ,except Eron's a man I guess.
[QUOTE=john_pelphre;46298341]Also, I was reading the Democracy Now article of Anita's interview. She said this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/L0bthLm.png[/img]
But doesn't that contradict with this?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VZ9HNnz.png[/img]
[editline]21st October 2014[/editline]
Well ,except Eron's a man I guess.[/QUOTE]
Why is Anita sexist?
She says that as if it only should apply to women? And why arent we not allowed to question others?
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46298347]Why is Anita sexist?
She says that as if it only should apply to women? And why arent we not allowed to question others?[/QUOTE]
She does believe it should only apply to women, because of "women can do no wrong" mentality.
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