Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Durrsly;46319590]My Facebook is still clear of Anti-GG BS.[/QUOTE] Ever since I blocked this nutty "feminist" I used to be friends with I've seen exactly ONE post about GG, and everyone supported it. They're all familiar with what's happening and it certainly does help that for the most part, Canadian media is ignoring this shit. [QUOTE=Rob3k;46320150]I personally believe that the feminism you described/believed in should be renamed to egalitarianism[/QUOTE] Ok I'm just going to comment on this part: we can't be giving people shit about saying "split up the GamerGate tag it's toxic!!!11!1!" and then simultaneously asking that "feminism" be split, especially when we know that most feminists are not actually nutjobs. I have friends afraid to associate themselves with feminism because of the stigma these nutters have created and I don't think that's fair for them (or for us).

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;46320468] Ok I'm just going to comment on this part: we can't be giving people shit about saying "split up the GamerGate tag it's toxic!!!11!1!" and then simultaneously asking that "feminism" be split, especially when we know that most feminists are not actually nutjobs. I have friends afraid to associate themselves with feminism because of the stigma these nutters have created and I don't think that's fair for them (or for us).[/QUOTE] Don't equate a hashtag to an actual movement that has supporters, agenda and political power. While I don't necessarily disagree that asking people to 'split up' their movements because of nutjobs is at best thinking way too highly of oneself, but that's just not fair. Not for GG, nor for feminism.

You can refuse to let a crazy extremist speak at a physical conference. You're powerless to stop a crazy person from using a hashtag.

It's a shame anti-gger's on FP can't properly discuss / argue their points and instead have to resort to posting "feminist death threat" threads on SH, way to prove your point, guys. Can't post argument currently because mobile.

What is SH?

Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46321198]It's a shame anti-gger's on FP can't properly discuss / argue their points and instead have to resort to posting "feminist death threat" threads on SH, way to prove your point, guys. Can't post argument currently because mobile.[/QUOTE] Sometimes FP especially in the SH will have quick near jerk responses at the top then more through responses at later.

[QUOTE=JesseR92;46321293]What is SH?[/QUOTE] Facepunch's worst section. SH is where people like yamwen got banned for saying a policeman is a class traitor and wouldn't even mind being hit by a molotov. SH is where iago said "who cares, they're worthless rock" to a thread about an ancient mayan pyramid being demolished. SH is the forwards operations base for every resident armchair general. SH is where there's at least a ban a week on users saying "nice" when a woman rapes a boy. SH is /pol/ without blaming everything on the jews. SH is also where you can make the best puns so I guess it's all right after all.

[QUOTE=catbarf;46319672]I'm always reserved when I see people overtly tie Gamergate to feminism. This isn't a reaction to feminism, it's a reaction to the echo chamber politics that have been steadily creeping into games journalism, and feminism is just one of the visible ways it has manifested. I know plenty of Gamergate supporters who consider themselves feminists, and smearing feminism and painting it as The Enemy because of the small cadre of nutjob extremists really isn't any more justifiable than the people using the same tactics against Gamergate. Most people on the outside support feminism or at least its ideals, and recognize a difference between wanting equality and the nutjob Tumblr culture. From just a purely political standpoint, saying Gamergate opposes feminism is really dumb and feeds perfectly into the narrative anti-GGers have been saying since this started.[/QUOTE] While it isn't from the inside, everyone who looks at it from the outside (even me when I try to take a step back and analyze the system as a whole) can clearly see what's going on, and it's very tempting and easy to frame this as a culture war of sorts. This article [url]http://www.popehat.com/2014/10/21/gamer-gate-three-stages-to-obit/[/url] does a great job at it and goes a level above feminism. While it doesn't get everything right it does explain the whole system and why things are happening.

Question, how can we email tv programs to have interviews with key figures who would be reasonable to talk about gamergate however we don't have key figures in FP to have such a large presence, (I wouldn't mind getting Reimu on the radio). I wouldn't mind emailing programs to get one on one interviews with totalbiscuit, but we don't speak for him.

SH is also where this happens: 'YOU'RE LYING I DON'T SEE PROOF' <proof> <silence>

Not fully confirmed, but [URL="https://8chan.co/gg/res/271791.html"]Colgate may have just dropped Gawker.[/URL]

I've surfed and bickered on SH long enough that I've learned exactly what to say to shut down someone's argument without using insults and the like. Its simple really, be polite. Be efficient. Write long ass posts that actually make the person sound like they don't know what they're saying.

[QUOTE=Mecha Pirate;46321701]SH is also where this happens: 'YOU'RE LYING I DON'T SEE PROOF' <proof> <silence>[/QUOTE] And then the thread dies because everyone waits for hilarity to ensue, but the first guy never replies. [editline]24th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;46321849]I've surfed and bickered on SH long enough that I've learned exactly what to say to shut down someone's argument without using insults and the like. Its simple really, be polite. Be efficient. Write long ass posts that actually make the person sound like they don't know what they're saying.[/QUOTE] And then people get tired of breaking down your posts point by point and discussion dies, yeah. And then the first rule of special Olympics comes into play, even if you win, you're still just as retarded as the next guy. One or two times out of one hundred if you really know your shit, and the other people do, meaningful and interesting discussion can happen. Most of the time, though... What I really fucking hate about SH is how passive-aggressive people get. "Well if you took a moment from being a useless sack of shit you are, maybe you'd understand that..."

[QUOTE=MasterKade;46319211]chloe sagal is back [url]https://twitter.com/ChloeSagal[/url] Some time ago she made her twitter account private and made her username 'inhales fiberglass' under the guise that people that were supposedly harassing her got her to commit suicide.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/s62Oqj9.png[/IMG] Smoking weed everyday is now a basic need

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0vcBANCcAAyTeF.jpg[/img] king of pol was just sent this. someone from france. it was probably #gamergate [editline]24th October 2014[/editline] [url]https://twitter.com/ErnestWAdams/status/525745466034905089[/url] [b]Founder of IGDA threatens indie developers that support #gamergate. down the rabbit hole we go, mutha fuckas. buckle the fuck up. [/b]

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46322269][img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0vcBANCcAAyTeF.jpg[/img] king of pol was just sent this. someone from france. it was probably #gamergate [editline]24th October 2014[/editline] [url]https://twitter.com/ErnestWAdams/status/525745466034905089[/url] [b]Founder of IGDA threatens indie developers that support #gamergate. down the rabbit hole we go, mutha fuckas. buckle the fuck up. [/b][/QUOTE] MaxofSTD?

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46319588]Joe Rogan says (or, someone else weighs in and he agrees with): [/QUOTE] Cultural Marxism is a conspiratorial imagination of a fever-dreamed far-right mind and Gamergate has nothing to do with feminism.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46322269] [url]https://twitter.com/ErnestWAdams/status/525745466034905089[/url] [b]Founder of IGDA threatens indie developers that support #gamergate. down the rabbit hole we go, mutha fuckas. buckle the fuck up. [/b][/QUOTE] These collusion accusations are overblown. Btw if you say anything we'll blacklist you. It's like they can't stop shooting themselves in the foot and wondering why they got shot. This is worse than a DSP video.

[QUOTE=Impact1986;46322080][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/s62Oqj9.png[/IMG] Smoking weed everyday is now a basic need[/QUOTE] Shit, I need to get on this. Gotta start a patreon "fellow white people please help a white person in need! how can I live without my daily machiatto???!!"

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46322269][img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0vcBANCcAAyTeF.jpg[/img] king of pol was just sent this. someone from france. it was probably #gamergate.[/QUOTE] Cant he hand it over to the police, so they can search for things like prints or DNA, who ever sent this probably didnt take that into account.

So why are people suddenly saying that Gamergate was named after Zoe Quinn allegedly sleeping with five people? Doesn't it come from the whole 'Gamers are dead' thing?

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46322423]So why are people suddenly saying that Gamergate was named after Zoe Quinn allegedly sleeping with five people? Doesn't it come from the whole 'Gamers are dead' thing?[/QUOTE] yes. it just fits their narrative better so that they can say its a misogynist thing. easy to turn around with a simple "actually we've been digging things up about male journalists for months" though

Piss poor choice of knife ,also yerrible handwriting . Is this the level of stuff anti -gg takes seriously.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46322423]So why are people suddenly saying that Gamergate was named after Zoe Quinn allegedly sleeping with five people? Doesn't it come from the whole 'Gamers are dead' thing?[/QUOTE] Combination of them happening in sequence and a more convenient narrative.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46322269] [url]https://twitter.com/ErnestWAdams/status/525745466034905089[/url] [b]Founder of IGDA threatens indie developers that support #gamergate. down the rabbit hole we go, mutha fuckas. buckle the fuck up. [/b][/QUOTE] "becareful what you say..." [url]https://archive.today/TiUQs[/url] IDGA's code of ethics time to read

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46322269] [b]Founder of IGDA threatens indie developers that support #gamergate. down the rabbit hole we go, mutha fuckas. buckle the fuck up. [/b][/QUOTE] Here is some new thread music for the new round of insanity that is going on: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq6rs_PaRMM[/media] I am still wondering when Intel is going to respond about that Gawker article though.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46322423]So why are people suddenly saying that Gamergate was named after Zoe Quinn allegedly sleeping with five people? Doesn't it come from the whole 'Gamers are dead' thing?[/QUOTE] The 5 guys incident was named the zoe post, gg itself steered away from that.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46322423]So why are people suddenly saying that Gamergate was named after Zoe Quinn allegedly sleeping with five people? Doesn't it come from the whole 'Gamers are dead' thing?[/QUOTE] I still find the "Gamers are dead" thing hilarious because that was those websites target audiences most of the time.

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