Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

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[img]http://puu.sh/cFD4R/a168b3850e.png[/img] Well shit. This isnt good.

[QUOTE=Highwind017;46424157][img]http://puu.sh/cFD4R/a168b3850e.png[/img] Well shit. This isnt good.[/QUOTE] actually this is fine. it's not turning into complete backstabbing everywhere; the scum has been outed from #gg, they were doing us wrong. and it was just a small group of people.

I can just imagine the evil mastermind arguments flowing through in the future from those guys.

I will just go after TB. He's at least not batshit insane.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424150]KoP was a part of a secret skype group started by Mundane Matt. [b]Mundane Matt is trying to create a group just as bad as Games Journo Pros. He and his small group of people are trying to rise to "leadership" levels of Gamergate by infiltrating the good game sites (on the white list). They doxxed 6,000 supporters of Gamergate. He attempted to tone police all over 8chan. KoP is calling them out.[/b] even though KoP is retarded, KoP is outing these fuckers. he showed the skype logs. KoP is not doing anything wrong here and it's not about the lazy stream.[/QUOTE] This is all fucking lies. The skype logs? He's twisting, he's not showing the actual skype call going on at the time, he's only using the text chat, he's filling in blanks with complete bullshit. I'm IN this big call he's "exposing" To start 1) Matt did NOT start the calls. Queeny and SecretSquaff did 2) THERE ARE NO FUCKING SOCKPUPPETS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 3) There's no leadership, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER. 4) That list he's showing is bullshit, THAT WAS SOMEONE LINKING A LIST FROM 8CHAN. IT'S OF FEMFREQ FOLLOWERS 5) IT'S NOT SECRET. ANYONE CAN JOIN THE CALL. Here, even have our list of rules. [url]http://secretsquaff.blogspot.com.au/2014_09_01_archive.html[/url] Don't believe his shit, he's starting to create infighting. He's crazy. All we do is talk and shoot the shit. THAT'S IT. That's fucking it.

I don't know anymore. KoP is nuts. I'm not believing shit he says anyway. You said you quit GG - stand by it and quit.

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[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424240]1) mundane matt is the one who started the "SJW"-esque tactics that were dirty while other people wanted to stay clean. 2) there were sockpuppets. they used them in order to doxx 6k-7k people. your name might even be on the list. 3) no shit there's no leadership. they're trying to become "leaders" by controlling shit behind the scenes. they're just as corrupt as the anti-gg. 4) you are not looking at the same list i am. but anyway yes it happened, sorry, so take this list of people: MUNDANE MATT LOGAN JENNIFER DAWE SYNTHOVINE do not trust them and let's move on and keep fighting the corruption. KoP et al are doing what anti-gg's won't: outing the corruption within our own consumer revolt. so, here we stand.[/QUOTE] 1) How? If anyone's doing SJW tactics, it's pol by trying to fucking dox us, start infighting, all with fucking lies. 2) What sockpuppets? Do you even have proof are you just listening to him? Can you actually tie them back to people, if you do have them? 3) No... no we're not, we don't even have that power? WE EVEN HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, AND IS SKYPE LOGGED IN THESE CHATS. He's quote mining. 4) I have the list BECAUSE I'M IN THESE CALLS. Matt... judge for yourself, I guess Logan, he's an asshole anyway, but he's pretty damn innocent. Jenn is one of our greatest strengths right now. She's a dev who has been in the industry for a fucking while going around and using her experience to shut down all the SJWs misdirecting shit. Synth... again, judge for yourself.

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[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424281]if you're not mundane matt then you weren't trying to do any of that shit i explained, calm the fuck down. i'm not blaming YOU for anything.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but I'm pissed as fuck. He's just lying, I can't exactly give you proof right now other than debate (I will look into it later, I promise), but fuck I am livid mad at him right now. But I really do suggest you talk to Matt, he's easy to get into contact with, see how he defends himself, all I can really ask of you right now is don't believe his shit, don't let it get to you, and don't let it start infighting.

[QUOTE=wingless;46424295]and don't let it start infighting.[/QUOTE] in the end regardless of disagreements this is what matters.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424315]in the end regardless of disagreements this is what matters.[/QUOTE] Stick to your emails, stick to your discussion.

So okay, I missed some shit. What the fuck is this [b]OPERASHUN VOX POPULI[/b] they're talking about? KoP stream obviously BTW Sargon has gone to make a stream of his own, can someone link it when it's up?

[QUOTE=Eonart;46424318]If anyone is allowed to join the call then what would be wrong with showing some logs? I'm sitting on the fence on this and don't want to believe either side until there's something really concrete.[/QUOTE] We shoot the shit, but we also talk in private about private things. We trust each other not to exactly out this shit, it's pretty much purely out of respect for each other. Our vetting process is pretty much entirely "Do you play games?". It's pretty much just a bunch of like minded gamers shooting the shit, put together by gamergate. It started out as a place to vent about shit to like-minded people. [editline]7th November 2014[/editline] I gotta apologize for getting pissed though, so sorry about that.

Yeah atm KoP's just taking shit out of context in the log. Very obviously.

[QUOTE=gudman;46424365]Yeah atm KoP's just taking shit out of context in the log. Very obviously.[/QUOTE] He's missing the voice call that was going on at the same time. "Downvoted for justice", that was in reply to someone talking about a thing on Reddit. *And it was sarcastic*

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46424352][url]http://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php/Operation_Vox_Populi#Operation_Vox_Populi[/url][/QUOTE] Thanks [editline]6th November 2014[/editline] fuck automerge [QUOTE=wingless;46424370]He's missing the voice call that was going on at the same time. "Downvoted for justice", that was in reply to someone talking about a thing on Reddit. *And it was sarcastic*[/QUOTE] Yup, and it's pretty obvious that the stuff's sarcastic. Even from the text, how it's written and what little context there is in the log itself.

So, is this anything serious, or is just KoP butthurt over him being "forced out"?

welp this is more of a challenge. Be up front, talk to people, and this won't tire you only if you want to. Honestly, things are harder to read and listen to from people stating we are women haters who don't know jack shit and there's nothing wrong with silly game journalists, but it hasn't worn be down in any other way that I know. Edit: I might be the exception on this. At one point I got frustrated, then I adapted to get out of that mindset in a day or two, then I relaxed, then I started to reflect, then I remembered the past, then I became confident. Teddy Roosevelt is one of the best figureheads to follow and not having to be a leaving breathing person, history is your hero other then your own actions you try to be most virtuous.

Sargon's stream [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UczG0dWJpz8]lives here[/url] Just started [editline]6th November 2014[/editline] Says sensible stuff.

sargon is infinitely more sensible than KoP. [editline]6th November 2014[/editline] going to go ahead and snip my overreactions. sorry. KoP is probably just retarded and i should follow my own advice

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424549]sargon is infinitely more sensible than KoP.[/QUOTE] Definitely. I see this whole thing as drama that does nothing to with GG and people need to take chill pills and move on.

[QUOTE=gudman;46424504]Sargon's stream [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UczG0dWJpz8]lives here[/url] Just started [editline]6th November 2014[/editline] Says sensible stuff.[/QUOTE] I missed the first 15 mins or so while listening to KOP, he said he 'might' get a preview of content from the vivian james game.

Like I said a couple pages ago, King of Pol got called out about his insane behavior and reacted exactly like ZQ and Wu and the others. Everyone should have been expecting this since basically day one. Every time he had any scrutiny put on him, he acts like a raging idiot. He's just doing that again with this. Really, KoP is acting like this because he's too immature and insane to handle criticism, and he got a ton levied at him after the Saturday stream, so he has reacted violently. He's never been a rational person, so its no surprise whatsoever.

hehe was talking about historical figures after I saw this and didn't think that this was also an example. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFt7xIa0tf0[/media] [editline]6th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46424627]Like I said a couple pages ago, King of Pol got called out about his insane behavior and reacted exactly like ZQ and Wu and the others. Everyone should have been expecting this since basically day one. Every time he had any scrutiny put on him, he acts like a raging idiot. He's just doing that again with this. Really, KoP is acting like this because he's too immature and insane to handle criticism, and he got a ton levied at him after the Saturday stream, so he has reacted violently. He's never been a rational person, so its no surprise whatsoever.[/QUOTE] I say there's that and there's maybe just one or two people trying to push him over the edge, I've seen this before.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46424352][url]http://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php/Operation_Vox_Populi#Operation_Vox_Populi[/url][/QUOTE] I have no clue how to interpret what RogueStar is up to all the time. It always looks a bit crazy/overdramatic/whatever to me but then it usually turns out he was right all along :suicide: It's highly informative though, I wouldn't have thought of anything close to the stuff he comes up with. I'm following it somewhat closely even if I expect almost everything to have some kind of weird twist ending.

Why is Thidran on that list, that is very weird. He has been here since the beginning. △ ▲ H E I L | T H I D R A N ▲ △

so it turns out mundane matt was just making a group to take the piss out of KoP, to hook people in with fake info and call them out on not researching that info. as robin on the stream said, he was being a kid and didnt realize the consequences of doing something silly without following up on it. thanks matt

Yeah that was pretty dumb.