Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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[QUOTE=TheJoey;46424948]so it turns out mundane matt was just making a group to take the piss out of KoP, to hook people in with fake info and call them out on not researching that info.
as robin on the stream said, he was being a kid and didnt realize the consequences of doing something silly without following up on it.
thanks matt[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'm gonna correct a few things here because I know a lot of the people running the Agents of Balance accounts. Matt didn't actually create anything, he was just contacted and he agreed to basically promote it, I don't blame anyone for thinking Matt made it. It was all supposed to be a giant joke (Personally, I always thought it was stupid). It wasn't necessarily always aimed at KoP or anyone, it was always a stupid joke.
I suggest you go through and check out all the accounts.
[url]https://twitter.com/AgentsOfBalance[/url]
You can find the rest of the agents accounts under what that account is following. Judge for yourself.
A person made a rebuttal yesterday to that big post Totalbiscuit did on Gamergate a few days ago.
Its a long read, but it goes in to try to correct a lot of stuff he said.
[URL]https://medium.com/@SvizraLion/everything-totalbiscuit-got-wrong-in-way-too-many-words-4df407e8113c[/URL]
I didn't see this posted before but I might have missed it if so.
[QUOTE=Valnar;46425045]A person made a rebuttal yesterday to that big post Totalbiscuit did on Gamergate a few days ago.
Its a long read, but it goes in to try to correct a lot of stuff he said.
[url]https://medium.com/@SvizraLion/everything-totalbiscuit-got-wrong-in-way-too-many-words-4df407e8113c[/url][/QUOTE]
i believe tb already gave a response to this, edit: found the link. it's a few pages ago.
[url]https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/a-response-to-yts-senior-curator-re-gamergate[/url]
[QUOTE=TheJoey;46425089]i believe tb already gave a response to this, edit: found the link. it's a few pages ago.
[URL]https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/a-response-to-yts-senior-curator-re-gamergate[/URL][/QUOTE]
The one I linked is different to that one TB already responded to.
Basically the agents of balance group was a stupid thing to do, and KoP overreacted and went full pol.
[QUOTE=Valnar;46425045]A person made a rebuttal yesterday to that big post Totalbiscuit did on Gamergate a few days ago.
Its a long read, but it goes in to try to correct a lot of stuff he said.
[URL]https://medium.com/@SvizraLion/everything-totalbiscuit-got-wrong-in-way-too-many-words-4df407e8113c[/URL]
I didn't see this posted before but I might have missed it if so.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Fallacies really are not required in order to tie the movement to the harassment. The past months have been widely recognised as the worst episode of concentrated harassment in the inudstry’s history. And what is the new element? What makes the industry now different from the industry of 6 months ago? Or a year ago? The answer is Gamergate. That’s it.[/QUOTE]
"Fallacies really are not required in order to tie the movement to the harassment." The guy them promptly blurts out one. By his logic the fucking Shoah could be tied to the French resistance.
So yeah, pardon me if I don't find this "rebuttal" particularly enlightening.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46425150]"Fallacies really are not required in order to tie the movement to the harassment." The guy them promptly blurts out one. By his logic the fucking Shoah could be tied to the French resistance.
So yeah, pardon me if I don't find this "rebuttal" particularly enlightening.[/QUOTE]
The person said at the end of that thought
[quote]And even if you don’t accept that premise, I’ll examine a little ways down how one doesn’t need to take part in harassment to be complicit in facilitating it[/quote]
[QUOTE=Valnar;46425171]The person said at the end of that thought[/QUOTE]
I haven't got to it yet, but that's not really encouraging me to read further. This thing just stems of bad faith arguing.
I still haven't heard a real explanation of how being in GG as a normal person not doing anything violent counts as "sanctioning" the few loud and possibly violent ones.
Give me a strong argument, 2 months in and I still haven't heard one
Every movement has some sort of infighting at one point or another. This is just part of the evolution process of movements, and GG is no exception.
Yeah but when Anti-GG have an infight it's a sign that they're "falling apart", "dying" or just a shitty group in general right?
But nah if it's GG then infighting's normal and okay.
[QUOTE=Cliff2;46425319][URL]https://twitter.com/mkelly007/status/530433024962596864[/URL]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/vqzHaoZ.png[/t][/QUOTE]
On one hand, she supports gamergate. On the other, it's fox. I agree with this picture.
Actually no, I'm gonna be optimistic here and assume it went well.
To be honest, it was only a matter of time until Fox News got involved. Let's just hope this doesn't devolve into a right versus left conflict.
she supports gamergate but she's also got a very sketchy background. politician, goon, posted her own nudes on the internet?, dated a guy that was stalking her to "troll" him... a lot of weird behavior.
i don't trust her.
Fox News? God fucking damnit
I've been out of the loop for a while why is KoP suddenly scum of the earth and where did the infighting come from?
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;46425408]I've been out of the loop for a while why is KoP suddenly scum of the earth and where did the infighting come from?[/QUOTE]
KoP took a lot of shit out of context. crippling retardation.
[QUOTE=gudman;46424504]Sargon's stream [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UczG0dWJpz8]lives here[/url]
Just started
[editline]6th November 2014[/editline]
Says sensible stuff.[/QUOTE]
wait, when did becca become a dick and deflect? The only time I would lose my shit is sargon at the moment being a total dick saying becca's a dick, say "I'm seeing that you are deflecting the question based on your reaction, can you get to the point. I find based on my experience that you are deflecting". Shit, be upbeat or you might become an emo asshole.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;46425408]I've been out of the loop for a while why is KoP suddenly scum of the earth and where did the infighting come from?[/QUOTE]
KingofPol is actually acting like the king of pol, basically.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46425433]wait, when did becca become a dick and deflect? The only time I would lose my shit is sargon at the moment being a total dick saying becca's a dick, say "I'm seeing that you are deflecting the question based on your reaction, can you get to the point. I find based on my experience that you are deflecting". Shit, be upbeat are your going to be an emo asshole.[/QUOTE]
I think Sargon's just generally frustrated right now and slipped up.
It's [I]very[/I] interesting that FOIAs aren't limited to US citizens.
[QUOTE=Valnar;46425045]A person made a rebuttal yesterday to that big post Totalbiscuit did on Gamergate a few days ago.
Its a long read, but it goes in to try to correct a lot of stuff he said.
[URL]https://medium.com/@SvizraLion/everything-totalbiscuit-got-wrong-in-way-too-many-words-4df407e8113c[/URL]
I didn't see this posted before but I might have missed it if so.[/QUOTE]
I'm having a hard time reading this, partly because most of the corrections are flat-out wrong and partly because the author seems to be assuming more than what is there. Like for the part where "#gamergate exploded after Adam Baldwin tweeted it." That's actually a true statement. Adam Baldwin tweets #gamergate. A few days later, the hashtag explodes. Correlation does not imply causation. I wish people would actually read the words that are written and ask for clarification instead of assuming meanings behind them.
[QUOTE=wingless;46425455]I think Sargon's just generally frustrated right now and slipped up.[/QUOTE]
your right king of pol is in the stream at the moment.
kop really need to stop yelling
KoP is discrediting himself so hard right now, holy shit.
respect for rogue star. he gives great advice.
when emailing advertisers, copy and paste the body of the email into a twitlonger and tweet it to that company as well. saturate the twitter feed because it's harder to ignore. also don't mention #gamergate in the email itself. keep it to the violation of terms.
I don't believe the whole KoP freakout is going to change much we don't have anything to hide if trolls get named all the better .
