Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;46511746][URL]https://twitter.com/redlianak/status/534251242479169536/photo/1[/URL][/QUOTE] I expect after this whole thing is over, game dev employees are going to have a new rule of "Shut the fuck up" Looks like he should have listened and believed.

[QUOTE=Ithon;46511455][img]https://media.8chan.co/gg/src/1416236010666.png[/img][/QUOTE] [quote]What I Got For Speaking Up[/quote] Whatever you got, you deserved it you fuck. Cry about it. I'm very neutral most of the time, I know that every conflict has two interested sides, both of which have their own truths and each one is demonizing the other, so none of them are really as bad as the other one says yadda-yadda, but holy fucking balls some of the people on AGG are disgusting pieces of shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. "Oh this guy doesn't automatically assume that I'm right in all I'm saying and even though we agree on some things, he still doesn't believe all the shit that's coming out of my mouth, he must be a bad person, how am I enduring all this harassment omg" - Arthur, you are a huge mangina. Not because there's something wrong with vaginas, but because you are a [b]cunt[/b]

Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.

[QUOTE=gudman;46511972]Whatever you got, you deserved it you fuck. Cry about it. I'm very neutral most of the time, I know that every conflict has two interested sides, both of which have their own truths and each one is demonizing the other, so none of them are really as bad as the other one says yadda-yadda, but holy fucking balls some of the people on AGG are disgusting pieces of shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. "Oh this guy doesn't automatically assume that I'm right in all I'm saying and even though we agree on some things, he still doesn't believe all the shit that's coming out of my mouth, he must be a bad person, how am I enduring all this harassment omg" - Arthur, you are a huge mangina. Not because there's something wrong with vaginas, but because you are a [b]cunt[/b][/QUOTE] I think the fundamental difference is that there's dickwads on both sides but on the GG side they're always faceless assholes who get immediately cast out, while some on the AGG side manage to thrive and get a following. Examples: Arthur Chu, Geordie Trait

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46512361]Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.[/QUOTE] I don't think anything needs to be said man. If anything not agreeing with everything Sarkeesian says by default says you have integrity. Taking things on blind faith because someone 'trusted' said something leads to all sorts of issues. All that needs to be said is that you're concerned with the ideas and the truth behind statements, not the person saying them. Content is just as important (if not more so) than character/

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46512361]Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.[/QUOTE] "Literally who cares"

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;46511533][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/quUYCz4.png[/IMG] Looks like he pulled the first tweet and did a bit of backpedaling. Rest are still up though. [URL]https://archive.today/2G5Qk[/URL] (entire feed) [URL]https://archive.today/tvy30[/URL] (the second tweet)[/QUOTE] terrorists I just love it when people are this disconnected from reality that they make these awesome comparisons, as if they knew what an actual terrorist is.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46512361]Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.[/QUOTE] "Sarkeesian lacks integrity because she's a snake oil saleswoman." Someone dig up those images of her articles she made shilling some bullshit contact lenses or w/e. You know the ones.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46512361]Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.[/QUOTE] Literaly say "words" out loud multiple times. He will be confused. The same would happen if you actually gave him a paper with an essay explaining this, so opt for the short answer. Or just say "No need to follow your aimless leader so blindingly"

[QUOTE=Wii60;46511546]this is the guy who wrote homefront[/QUOTE] And he co-wrote this game with the people who wrote Far Cry 3. This is gonna be some ham-handed bullshit for sure.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46512590]Literaly say "words" out loud multiple times. He will be confused. The same would happen if you actually gave him a paper with an essay explaining this, so opt for the short answer. Or just say "No need to follow your aimless leader so blindingly"[/QUOTE] He's not exactly playing games, I don't think he consider Sarkeesian a leader for anything. As it is, arguments are at a standstill and the general consensus is "at least she brought the issue to the table" but I don't see how that excuses what else she has done.

Pakman got a response back from CBC: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_782j_Cev8[/media]

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46512361]Dude in my school boasted that I have a lack of integrity because I don't necessarily agree with all Sarkeesian says. Still don't know how to respond to that.[/QUOTE] Simple; Don't. You'd probably get better results bashing your head against the wall.

[QUOTE=Fangz;46512776]Pakman got a response back from CBC: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_782j_Cev8[/media][/QUOTE] [Early adopter of Gamergate before it was about harassing women] Guys, does anyone know what happened within the past 2 weeks that made Gamergate about harassing women? Because apparently that last quarter of a year was about ethics but David Pakman jumped in just before it was about harassing women.

[QUOTE=Thlis;46512876][Early adopter of Gamergate before it was about harassing women] Guys, does anyone know what happened within the past 2 weeks that made Gamergate about harassing women? Because apparently that last quarter of a year was about ethics but David Pakman jumped in just before it was about harassing women.[/QUOTE] Nothing happened I think, other than the people against gg decided to push that narrative because they couldn't win a fair fight on the topic of ethics. Mainstream news will just default to the gaming journalist sources, which is where a lot of the loudest and stupidest people run the show apparently.

[QUOTE=Thlis;46512876][Early adopter of Gamergate before it was about harassing women] Guys, does anyone know what happened within the past 2 weeks that made Gamergate about harassing women? Because apparently that last quarter of a year was about ethics but David Pakman jumped in just before it was about harassing women.[/QUOTE] weird how easily people can distort the history despite it all being readily archived and available from when it was actually happening

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;46512835]Simple; Don't. You'd probably get better results bashing your head against the wall.[/QUOTE] Aye. Bashing your head against a wall gives you easy access to wiring, strengthens your forehead and neck muscles, and might even give you a fashionable permanent bindi if you manage to hit a stud! Why pointlessly argue with morons when you can do something worthwhile?

If you're Canadian, write to cbc about that last article. They will reply to you.

The saddest bloody part is my tax money is being used to paint me as some monster,Im the troll not Sam Biddle ,I am apparently an upholder of the Capitalist Patriarchy despite leaning far left and generally not giving a fuck about what other people ,I mean at this point I could not give any less of a fuck about what someones gender,sexuality,skin pigmentation,heritage,or genetic backround is in the end it comes down to ,are they a dick yes or no. But no the people who hold the fact that someone else is Caucasian ,male ,and straight against them to invalidate their opinion . I find gamers to be by far the most welcoming group of people,on a grand scale most dont care what you do what you are they just want to play some games.

Don't know if anyone cares, but that game posted earlier, [URL="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ektomarch/aerannis"]Aerannis[/URL], reached and passed its funding goal.

[url]https://archive.today/0u3up[/url]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrlAQ-AWnQ0[/media]

former Xbox Dev (worked on XB1) comes out as Pro-GG, says the entire industry is mostly Pro-GG [URL]https://twitter.com/Bane_Alex_Uk/status/534492471733256192[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46515500]former Xbox Dev (worked on XB1) comes out as Pro-GG, says the entire industry is mostly Pro-GG [URL]https://twitter.com/Bane_Alex_Uk/status/534492471733256192[/URL][/QUOTE] Quite frankly I thought this was already common knowledge. Oh well, props to the dev for having the stones to say it publicly.

[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46515471] [/QUOTE] I don't know what to say about the state of the gaming industry other then it's going to get worse before it get's better. It's in a transitional period and it's ripe for major changes to happen, good or bad. I'll fight on the (in my own, personal opinion) the rational fight, and just hope for changes in the near future.

[url]https://archive.today/lFpN8[/url] Ben Kuchera has promoted to the new jack thompson. [QUOTE]The real danger isn't just in actions but in patterns of thought. Do I think that Call of Duty makes you pick up a gun? Not really. Do I worry that it makes us accepting, if not welcoming, of a certain type of armed conflict? Absolutely. It's okay to enjoy Call of Duty — it's one of my favorite games in fact — but pointing out a constant glorification of a certain kind of war isn't an attack on the game. It's more like an attempt to try to meet the game on its level. It's about trying to have a dialog instead of treating games as a lecture.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wii60;46515674][url]https://archive.today/lFpN8[/url] Ben Kuchera has promoted to the new jack thompson.[/QUOTE] I have never thought armed conflict is okay, ever. Neither has ANYBODY who has played COD either. You'd have to be insane or sadistic to think that warfare is "necessary." I don't understand why goddamn video games and everything in existence has to cater to offended or misguided people and be perfect little snowflakes.

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;46511533][img]http://i.imgur.com/quUYCz4.png[/img] Looks like he pulled the first tweet and did a bit of backpedaling. Rest are still up though. [url]https://archive.today/2G5Qk[/url] (entire feed) [url]https://archive.today/tvy30[/url] (the second tweet)[/QUOTE] is this guy an actual writer for far cry 4? and is he a main one? or is he some dunce intern

[QUOTE=Wii60;46515674][url]https://archive.today/lFpN8[/url] Ben Kuchera has promoted to the new jack thompson.[/QUOTE] [quote]Call of Duty is, at the surface layer, a well-made, extremely fun game about shooting people in the face. [B]On a deeper level, it tells us something about how our culture looks at warfare, and can create or enforce subtle stereotypes about how we deal with soldiers, other cultures or the military as a whole.[/B][/quote] I have to ask: does it really? Does he think that people are so out of touch with reality that when the every day bro dude goes out to buy the new CoD they think it's a direct reflection of how real soldiers operate and not just a really over the top portrayal of the military akin to action movies? [B]Fake Edit:[/B] Ok, I think he does. You'd think someone who claims to hold themselves to a higher critical standard would realize that CoD is, as of now, a massive military parody. It's like Transformers 2 when that guy calls the ship to fire a railgun on the big fucking thing that was on the pyramids; it is an overglorification of things we have now on a level that is clearly not reality but making fun of it.

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46515695]I have never thought armed conflict is okay, ever. Neither has ANYBODY who has played COD either. You'd have to be insane or sadistic to think that warfare is "necessary." I don't understand why goddamn video games and everything in existence has to cater to offended or misguided people and be perfect little snowflakes.[/QUOTE] Well wars happen, which means there're people who consider warfare necessary for stuff like economy, politics etc. Don't think they're all insane and sadistic. but what does it all have to do with CoD or any other game about war for that matter. That's what eludes my comprehension. What Kuchera's saying is "I don't think that videogames promote violence, but videogames totally promote violence". Just why even saying something like this if not for the sole reason to sound a bit retarded?