Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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Even if the "victim" says they're not experiencing harrassment, they are. - AGG at its finest
Any word back on the CBC or ABC hitpieces they ran or are they going to stand by the parroted narrative they ripped from MSNBC.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;46534410]Any word back on the CBC or ABC hitpieces they ran or are they going to stand by the parroted narrative they ripped from MSNBC.[/QUOTE]
Not yet. Either way I am going to ask what exactly made Gamergate irredeemable less than 2 weeks ago.
not 100% verified yet but
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/efFxy72.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Mecha Pirate;46534068]There is no need to correct words I parroted. I specifically meant too high.
I know too little about this to formulate an educated opinion.[/QUOTE]
Ah, ok. In that case the answer is a clear no.
[editline]edit[/editline] I should probably be more specific:
Websites are pretty expensive when done properly, much more so if there's integration of community content and if it's a commercial one (because then there are tons of legal pitfalls so the dev essentially has to know [I]some[/I] legal matters, and an attorney probably should look it over too).
The people starting this project also don't seem to be web-developers, meaning they have to outsource everything, making it more expensive than what you usually have for website projects where the people starting it will largely do the work themselves.
Then you have to consider that the website is going to be interactive and will have a mobile design too, both of which add a significant amount of work (but the former maybe not [I]too[/I] much since the people writing for it will need a content management system too).
From what I can tell from looking very coarsely at that PDF, they'll use a custom back-end, which may or may not be more expensive than adapting an available solution (which will be done anyway in parts, programming is about reusing components to a very large extent), but certainly isn't going to be cheap.
[editline]20th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Wii60;46534853]not 100% verified yet but
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/efFxy72.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That's a blatant premade text block.
It leans slightly towards "we're going to pull them off that site" but unless they follow up with another email I'll just regard this as read receipt.
currently the Wikipedia arbitration stands at 6 accepts, 2 decline and 1 recuse
[QUOTE=Wii60;46534966][video=youtube;m59S9WHjE-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59S9WHjE-0[/video][/QUOTE]
This has amazing editing :v:
[QUOTE=Wii60;46534226]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/T0xM50j.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Wow, I am truely compeled by her argument.
As graceful as passing an angry bull through an antique shop.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46535091]
As graceful as passing an angry bull through an antique shop.[/QUOTE]
Nail polish is especially well done too.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46535091]Wow, I am truely compeled by her argument.
As graceful as passing an angry bull through an antique shop.[/QUOTE]
Bull through antique shop was busted by the Mythbusters though. Bulls actually try to avoid walking into things.
Geoff Kheily Is hostin thegameawards.com
here's the judge list (they vote on the majority of awards on the show):
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TCDTg6R.png[/IMG]
let me know if there is something out of the ordinary on the site.
Totalbiscuit is also a poll choice for a fan poll award. go vote for him on the site
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46535091]Wow, I am truely compeled by her argument.
As graceful as passing an angry bull through an antique shop.[/QUOTE]
How graceful do you expect a middle aged British prostitute to be?
At this point I don't think there are less than a few big gaming sites left that I trust, the corruption runs so deep in this industry that I believe there is only one thing we should do. Burn it all down, to the ground and start anew. There is simply too many sites basically letting their 'journalists' do whatever the fuck they want as long as they get the money from their work or they are covering the backs of their friends.
I don't think I want to work in game industry as it is right now, I just, I can't be okay with this immoral shit going on in the whole industry, from the IGF to EA.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46535341]Geoff Kheily Is hostin thegameawards.com[/quote]
The database is down. Retracted - is now up.
[QUOTE=Morphology53;46535388]How graceful do you expect a middle aged British prostitute to be?[/QUOTE]
Wow prostitutes can be really graceful, okay? I can't believe how oppressive you're being. I'm so triggered.
[QUOTE=Penultimate;46535877]Wow prostitutes can be really graceful, okay? I can't believe how oppressive you're being. I'm so triggered.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, quit literally slut-shaming
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46535892]Yeah, quit literally slut-shaming[/QUOTE]
Yeah man! And prudes can be klutzy too!
Why, just the other day I ruined a pair of jeans by tripping on my way to the library!
[QUOTE=Penultimate;46535877]Wow prostitutes can be really graceful, okay? I can't believe how oppressive you're being. I'm so triggered.[/QUOTE]
I'm more interested in "[b]British[/b]" prostitute. Like, are American middle-aged prostitutes any better than British middle-aged prostitutes?
[del]There might also be some racism[/del] Brits are white, so it's just prejudice, it's okay
[QUOTE=gudman;46536196]I'm more interested in "[b]British[/b]" prostitute. Like, are American middle-aged prostitutes any better than British middle-aged prostitutes?
[del]There might also be some racism[/del] Brits are white, so it's just prejudice, it's okay[/QUOTE]
Our prossies tend to talk with a really thick cockney accent, and speak exclusively in rhyming slang.
I love how the ring has "Fuck you" inside a heart. Very edgy. I bet she was so excited when she got it from Etsy.
remember to email intel about gamasutra
[url]http://puu.sh/cYQfi/1dfbce1b11.jpg[/url]
[url]https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/forms/corporate-responsibility-contact-us.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46535892]Yeah, quit literally slut-shaming[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=gudman;46536196]I'm more interested in "[b]British[/b]" prostitute. Like, are American middle-aged prostitutes any better than British middle-aged prostitutes?
[del]There might also be some racism[/del] Brits are white, so it's just prejudice, it's okay[/QUOTE]
I was implying that due to how prostitution is regulated in a given locale (ie:the UK), that said prostitute would be on worse overall health than somewhere that enforced regular checkups (ie:Germany)
I also mainly pointed out her profession, because prostitution is one of those areas where the various flavours of feminism have never been able to reach any sort of consensus on.
The gist of it is, you cant reeeally subscribe to views about a patriarchal society (which creates prostitution) and enjoy being sex worker, without being a massive hypocrite.
I'll take the bait anyway tho, just pretend I had implied that a British prostitute has a slightly lower body fat percentage, and three more teeth, verses an American one.
So, I did some research on the Federico Cella guy. First of all I doubt anyone of the Corriere has ever actually touched a videogame in their life, but eh Cella's feed is full of links to other guys' articles, it's basically only use for advertisement. I checked manually all videogames-related articles of the Corriere up to february 2014 and I haven't found a single one written by him.
On the other hand, I found this:
[url]http://www.corriere.it/tecnologia/videogiochi/14_novembre_13/donne-videogame-piccole-grandi-giocatrici-crescono-5ee43348-6b31-11e4-8c60-d3608edf065a.shtml[/url]
Translation by me (Sorry if i suck). You'll find my comments between [square brackets]
[quote]
[B]Women and videogames, big and small female videogamers grow.[/B]
[I]The number of girls and over 50 females who like videogame rises, while the debate about making videogame less sexist grows. [/I]
By Marta Serafini
There are at elast two hundred of them. All of them aged from 12 to 16 years, rigorously ordered in a row, all of them excited and frantic. The place is the Games Week of Milano, in occasion of the preview of the last Call of Duty game, one of the most sold videogames. Between them are Chiara and Fabiola. They're the only girls [[I]Heck if I believe it[/I]]. White flies in a world of male nerds [LITERAL TRANSLATION]. They whisper shyly: «We like to play too» .
[B]Female programmers and designer at work[/B]
Women and a videogames - for many year this coupling didn't work. Very few of them had a Game Boy or a pc. «But things are changing», tell some insiders. Before and after the screen. We can start seeing this by the data published this summer from the Entertainment Software Association. [This is a link to another article in where they state 50% of Call of Duty players are female. Now they say there are very few COD gamers. Contradiction much?]. If the revolution just started in Italy, in the USA women already make up 48% of the total user base. Even the average age of the over 50 women who decide to play with consoles [I'm unsure by this she is meaning 'playing' in general or ACTUALLY just consoles]. But there is more than numbers. We're speaking about who designs, writes, and draws videogames. Only 11% of them are female. «And it's a shame, since anyone who chooses this career is not unemployed and earns well (in the USA the average pay is 72.000$) [I have some trouble believing this, but ok]», says Laura Ripamonti, Computer Science Professor at Milano's University. The things that keep girls away are the usual stereotypes, from games' influence to the belief that videogames are "a boys' thing". Elisa di Lorenzo, 30 years old, from Foofa studios, tells: «My father bought me a Commodore 64 when I was really young. It's probably because of him that I decided to become a programmer.»
[This part was really mild and somewhat reasonale but we all know what comes next, right? Time to fling some shitt at GamerGate! To the Batshaming Cave!]
[B]Threats and stereotypes of the genre.[/B]
From our country we return overseas where, for months, a debate under the name of GamerGate has been going on. On one side, a scandal that sees involved some producers [I'm not sure we can say Zoe Quinn is a producer], accused of having had sex with some journalists for positive reviews. On the other side, instances of actual and true sexism [THAT'S THE MAGIC WORK! DING DING DING]. Zoe Quinn, indie game developer, first, and Anita Sarkeesian, scholar in the field [Jesus], later, have received heavy attacks. Anita's been bombed with 35.188 aggressive tweets [ACH! PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION AGAINST BULLSHIT IS WORSE THAN GENOCIDE], and the same sort has befallen Brianna Wu, who even had to move to a secret location [#LOLZ]. They were called «W... [Whores] and feminists». It's hard to remove from the world of the videogames that idea, typical of the nerd culture, that sees women outside of the gaming room, only to be seen as part of the furniture [Holy shit I'm sorry what]. It's no coincidence that all the female protagonists of the most commercial games, starting from Lara Croft, are nothing but bimbos with big breasts, which are completely useless to the plot. [They went full idiot]. Jesse Cox, of the Ohio State University, tells that this representation negatively influences the perception of women, both offline and online. But, mind out, «Not all games are the same», tells Claudia Molinari of We are Muesli, italian indie videogame reality. «It is possible to work on less skill-based games, and more based on thinking, on art, on science», she explains. In fact, if the Pew Research Center confirms that 44% of all female videogames have received harassment and threats online (one of the most used words used in chast against women is "rape"), [Don't worry, dumbasses, "rape" is the most used word against every fucking one. Has anyone ever played an actual MP game here?!], sometimes you just need to focus on the plot of games to appease nerds' maschilism [THEY ACTUALLY WROTE THAT; HOLY SHIT]. «Even in titles traditionally considered to be more suitable to men, like Assassin's Creed, we can now find women in more important roles», Cristina Nava tells, Ubisoft associated producer. Because the goal is clear to everyone: to sell, producers cannot just speak to an audience of male teenagers. They must stop to think that girls only play Candy Crush on facebook.
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And I lost at least 10 points of IQ writing that.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3bY5pqP.png[/img]
I felt like this image fit some stuff in the thread :v:
[url]http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/11/gamergate-interest-groups-want-to-take-online-harassment-to-senate/[/url]
There's a tipping point right now for the internet and it's not just net neutrality.
Edit: everyone should read this.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46538962][url]http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/11/gamergate-interest-groups-want-to-take-online-harassment-to-senate/[/url]
There's a tipping point right now for the internet and it's not just net neutrality.
Edit: everyone should read this.[/QUOTE]
[quote]“The 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, looking at the facts in Elonis’ case, held that if a statement causes a reasonable person to fear for her safety, that’s a true threat.”[/quote]
Given our opponents' ability to reason I'd say we have nothing to worry about :v:
You're talking about our mindless politics. There is some concern needed.
It needs a close eye, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46538962][url]http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/11/gamergate-interest-groups-want-to-take-online-harassment-to-senate/[/url]
There's a tipping point right now for the internet and it's not just net neutrality.
Edit: everyone should read this.[/QUOTE]
This is gonna be bad.
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