Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.

[Jamsponge]

Blocking has a purpose. It's so that people with whom you have a personal beef can't speak to you, and you can't actually send something to them. I have literally only ever blocked one person, and that's my manipulative ex. I don't really see why people can't just report these people? That automatically blocks them too so you're killing two birds with one stone.

[Tamschi]

[QUOTE=TheJoey;46561796]yeah obviously they should be lead to believe theyre taking a shower first before being gassed. should've been a bit more clear tbh

[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]

[url]http://techraptor.net/content/developers-react-igda-controversy[/url]

Developers react to IGDA.[/QUOTE]

That reminds me: Cernovich mentioned that, while it's not possible to illegally libel groups of people, the fact that the autoblocker lists individual people and their screen names possibly makes calling it [URL="https://archive.today/yEhbK#selection-2317.0-2317.84"]"A Twitter tool to block some of the worst offenders in the recent wave of harassment"[/URL] an instance of libel.

[URL="https://github.com/freebsdgirl/ggautoblocker/blob/073fb4de3da7b5df7c4cf2e78d8e80d21e829821/ggautoblocker.pl"]The autoblocker's code[/URL] is hilarious too:

[...]

# print out some stats
# BUG! these numbers aren't accurate. plzfix.
@sheeple_ids = keys %problem;
print "> $#follower_ids users following idiots.\n";
print "> $#sheeple_ids users following multiple accounts.\n";
# save ids to file if we're debugging
if ( $debug ) {
print "Saving list of IDs to block_ids.txt.\n";
open BL, '>block_ids.txt' or die "Can't open block_ids.txt: $!\n";
foreach my $monster ( keys %problem ) {
if ( $problem{$monster}->{'count'} == 1 ) {
delete $problem{$monster};
} else {
print BL "$monster\n";
}
}
close BL;
}

[...]

[the indentation broke due to copy/paste, it's not [I]that[/I] bad in the real file]

[MegaJohnny]

Cameralady got suspended in the last few minutes...

[AxeI]

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;46563054]Cameralady got suspended in the last few minutes...[/QUOTE]
For what reason?

[MegaJohnny]

I've no idea - Twitter's "account suspended" page never has any information. Probably for "harassment". Admittedly she went a bit over the top with propositioning everyone but this is hardly fair.

For the sceptical:
[url]https://twitter.com/the_camera_girl[/url]

[Tamschi]

Occupy Wall Street (205K followers) took part in the thunderclap: [url]https://twitter.com/OccupyWallSt/status/536928387869474818[/url]

[Solo Wing]

[QUOTE=Tamschi;46563277]Occupy Wall Street (205K followers) took part in the thunderclap: [url]https://twitter.com/OccupyWallSt/status/536928387869474818[/url][/QUOTE]

Opposing corruption in Wall Street and now opposing corruption in the games industry.

Consistency at its finest.

[27X]

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46562938]Blocking has a purpose. It's so that people with whom you have a personal beef can't speak to you, and you can't actually send something to them. I have literally only ever blocked one person, and that's my manipulative ex. I don't really see why people can't just report these people? That automatically blocks them too so you're killing two birds with one stone.[/QUOTE]

They know that. What they really want is to silence the hashtag before this goes mainstream public, because when it does, #AGG is over for all intents and purposes; when it goes mainstream and starts literally a/effecting financial bottom lines re: publishers, devs and marketeers, #AGG is fucked, and so are most of the journalists perpetrating it.

Not to be grandiose, but the level of bullying they're perpetrating will be turned back on them, which in turn will then start bringing up questions as to why mainstream media didn't bring this to light earlier.

See, things are fine while this is fringe and niche, and a scattering of turbonerds yelling at each other in short character-form. When it becomes Ma and Pa Consumer deciding not to watch a network or go to a website to get their news anymore, when it becomes "I'm done buying Ubisoft games, period; seriously fuck those guys" in bulk; things are going to get ugly fast.

This is precisely why companies like GE, Samsung, and Disney spend what they do on marketing and PR, and #AGG have been showing their asses for a rather long trail of crumbs to follow, and the potential for blowback isn't going to be constrained by "I'm safely insulated by the interwebs, u can't sue me"; it may be potentially end up in civil courts, and that's when the real work will get done, and people's livelihoods will be at stake; which is rather ironic considering what these people are doing to people's livelihoods right now, simply because they can.

Payback's a bitch.

[.𓃉𓁿𓂎𓁿𓃉.]

yeah, i've noticed that agg has seemingly stopped trying to prove that gamergate is bad and is now retreating into a shell. maybe we'll have a nice lobster dinner

[Solo Wing]

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46563512]yeah, i've noticed that agg has seemingly stopped trying to prove that gamergate is bad and is now retreating into a shell. maybe we'll have a nice lobster dinner[/QUOTE]

I'll get the butter! :v:

[Heldure]

Good, we'll have a use for all the newspapers that published their lies. As a dropcloth for the butter.
edit: probably going to have to print off most of them, gamergate only had one or two mentions in actual newspapers IIRC

[DrBones]

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46563512]yeah, i've noticed that agg has seemingly stopped trying to prove that gamergate is bad and is now retreating into a shell. maybe we'll have a nice lobster dinner[/QUOTE]

Do lobsters retreat into their shells? I thought their shells were, you know... exoskeletons.

[01271]

[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;46564193]Do lobsters retreat into their shells? I thought their shells were, you know... exoskeletons.[/QUOTE]

They're hermit lobsters.

[Xenomoose]

So this is all awesome to know and stuff, but exactly how long would it take for this to actually happen?

[G-Strogg]

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;46564096]I'll get the butter! :v:[/QUOTE]

H-harrassment!

Also, in todays issue of Swedish Metro there was an Anti-GG column, which was horribly misinformed even. I respect people having different opinions and even that yes, on the shallow side GG can look bad.

But the author claimed stuff like Adam Baldwin being one of the main spokespersons and propagators of GG, among other things.

[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]

Oh and the author ended the column with "maybe this is a sign of the gaming industry maturing". Which is true, in a way :v:

[Coldmute]

Its interesting that both Wikileaks and OWS support GG. Both are largely leftist bodies, with room for and appeal to extreme leftists, including many who AGG would ostensibly consider on their side.

[Coldmute]

[QUOTE=Xubs;46564486]both have dealt heavily with the media being against them[/QUOTE]
This too. Probably why they both came out in support of GG, a certain level on kinship.

[hexpunK]

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46564472]Its interesting that both Wikileaks and OWS support GG. Both are largely leftist bodies, with room for and appeal to extreme leftists, including many who AGG would ostensibly consider on their side.[/QUOTE]

The "leftists" who are fighting GG tooth and nail, and just fuck it up by becoming what they claim to hate, aren't really all that left. They're still massively conservative, just not in the usual sense. The way they respond to others not having the same opinions as them is pretty similar to that of a social conservative.

[DrBones]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;46564514]The "leftists" who are fighting GG tooth and nail, and just fuck it up by becoming what they claim to hate, aren't really all that left. They're still massively conservative, just not in the usual sense. The way they respond to others not having the same opinions as them is pretty similar to that of a social conservative.[/QUOTE]

The thing is that they can have leftist ideals or rightist ideals. It doesn't matter at all. What [i]does[/i] matter is the fact that they're authoritarians.

Left doesn't immediately mean libertarian, and right doesn't immediately mean authoritarian.

[gudman]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;46564514]The "leftists" who are fighting GG tooth and nail, and just fuck it up by becoming what they claim to hate, aren't really all that left. They're still massively conservative, just not in the usual sense. The way they respond to others not having the same opinions as them is pretty similar to that of a social conservative.[/QUOTE]

They sure do a good job proving the horseshoe theory.

[Miya]

roberto rosario (IDGA dude that threatened to resign) talks about the IDGA's "Imperfect tools" and makes a harassment reporter app in the process.

[URL]http://blog.robertorosario.com/imperfect-tools/[/URL]

you can see his app here:

[url]https://github.com/Cleisthenes/cleisthenes[/url]

[Miya]

Occupy Wall St Supports Gamergate and not your shield

[url]https://twitter.com/OccupyWallSt/status/536928387869474818[/url]

[Ogopogo]

[img]https://media.8chan.co/gg/src/1416848783121.png[/img]

[killerteacup]

I've been lurking this since the beginning but I'm afraid of gotten a bit out of the loop in the last couple weeks. What significant advances have been made for gamergate in the public eye or on the internet? Are more people recognising what is actually happening?

[Everstvetita]

Pcgamesn and Shacknews so fast to pump out the Gamergate harassment bollocks, but when IGDA condemn ten thousand people, you see nothing. That's not just directed at those two sites, just saddening that these sites are supposed to look after gamers.

[27X]

[quote] Are more people recognising what is actually happening? [/quote]

Slowly, yes.

More professionals are finally getting out of holiday crunch and beginning to realize these people don't give a goddamn about their well-being and simply want to use them as a platform for social and internet McCarthyism.

[JesseR92]

GG is gaining support ,IGDA pissed a fuckton of people off and managed to label one of their own organizers countless indy devs ,KFC and everyone who follow CH Sommers as a harraser of women

[Thlis]

Former Russian president comments on being on the blocklist
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcekWwf4i-0[/media]
Then again do you really trust a dead gay ex neo nazi teen?

[JesseR92]

I not their list but they gave it an air of legitimacy it did not deserve.

[Lowland]

Gamergate will eventually be successful, simply because it's opponents do nothing but attack strawmen and vilify the movement, while the issue that caused Gamergate to happen in the first place remains.

Considering Gamergate is a massive group of people, vilification has no effect whatsoever. No gamer is going to be truly upset when some twittertwat calls for gamergaters to be thrown into a volcano. It only serves to underline the hypocrisy of their "we're against harassment" narrative.

Basically all Gamergate has to do is repeat its messages to anyone willing to listen. "Anti-gamergate" pretty much defeats itself.