Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=V12US;46592193][t]http://i.imgur.com/fcDbGtD.png[/t] [URL]https://archive.today/OYV1L[/URL] So FreeBSDGirl, the person who made the IGDA approved GamerGate blacklist in order to "Stop harassment", just harassed a girl off of twitter for not being extreme enough. I wish I was making this shit up.[/QUOTE] HAH! They're the ones bullying and shaming people into silence, and she has the NERVE to say we're the harassers? These people are so fucking toxic they hurt their own. How fucked up is that shit? Even though she is AGG, I feel really bad for Claire. Betrayed and humiliated by the people who were supposed to be her friends and allies. That's fucked up no matter how you look at it.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;46592511]HAH! They're the ones bullying and shaming people into silence, and she has the NERVE to say we're the harassers? These people are so fucking toxic they hurt their own. How fucked up is that shit?[/QUOTE] They'll say anything to make themselves look like the good guys, but there's no denying the things that they do. I got into this whole GG thing when I saw subreddits censoring things people said just for having different opinions. These people have no sense of humility and will gladly say that the world is wrong - not them. Self-righteousness + Lack of critical thought = Arrogant jerks. I hope more people realize that whom they support in AGG are disgusting hypocrites.

[QUOTE=V12US;46592193][t]http://i.imgur.com/fcDbGtD.png[/t] [url]https://archive.today/OYV1L[/url] So FreeBSDGirl, the person who made the IGDA approved GamerGate blacklist in order to "Stop harassment", just harassed a girl off of twitter for not being extreme enough. I wish I was making this shit up.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nmg2l/lets_try_this_again_ama_with_someone/"]I saw her AMA on KiA[/URL] (she deleted [del]most[/del]some of her replies, maybe someone can restore them or find an archived version): Other than being against the hashtag movement she isn't really that far anti-GG. She'd probably support most of our causes that is. I think more or less the only difference is that she likes what Sarkeesian does, otherwise she's perfectly reasonable. (Probably a bit more so than the average person in fact.)

[QUOTE=Tamschi;46592948][URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nmg2l/lets_try_this_again_ama_with_someone/"]I saw her AMA on KiA[/URL] (she deleted [del]most[/del]some of her replies, maybe someone can restore them or find an archived version): Other than being against the hashtag movement she isn't really that far anti-GG. She'd probably support most of our causes that is. I think more or less the only difference is that she likes what Sarkeesian does, otherwise she's perfectly reasonable. (Probably a bit more so than the average person in fact.)[/QUOTE] well you know what they say, you can't spell "moderate anti gamergater" without "moderate gamegater"

Whether or not Schumacher is a strawman is irrelevant. This little exchange definitively proves what that methhead would do if she thinks she could get away with it. If our ultimate goal when arguing with SJWs is to sway moderates, this is a [i]major[/i] windfall. If Shirtstorm hasn't poisoned the well, this one will.

This is ridiculous. I wonder how much digging AGG people will do before they find an example of a Gamergate person saying somebody else isn't into it enough because they [I]refuse to define an entire group of people by literally one individual[/I].

There is no point in arguing with SJW and I wish people would just block the same few zealots with an obsession for twitter arguing that pop up in every discussion (you know who they are) instead of engaging in the usual shit slinging And I'm not just saying that because arguing with them is pointless but because every moment they are not wasting their time arguing with us they're going to be arguing with moderates and we all know how effective they are at committing PR suicide for their own side

[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46593195] And I'm not just saying that because arguing with them is pointless but because every moment they are not wasting their time arguing with us they're going to be arguing with moderates and we all know how effective they are at committing PR suicide for their own side[/QUOTE] These people are obsessed with creating an echo chamber wherever they go, so that's no surprise. "Moderate" rings of treachery to SJW's ears.

[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46586105]In regards of Far Cry 4, I don't think the writer was actually trying to push the feminist agenda for the simple reason that if he was, he's done a godawful job. On the other hand he perfectly shows the mentality of your average radical feminist: she might have some good points, but uses sexism as a scapegoat to dismiss any criticism I've made a quick video of a scene which I found was particularly relevant and sounded uncannily familiar [url]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102775431/farcry4fm.mp4[/url] For the record, I'm still relatively early in the game but I have yet to see a cutscene where amita doesn't complain about sexism. It's THAT hamhanded[/QUOTE] Can we all remember for a second that the devs are pretty much shitting on Anita with Amita? There is not a single redeeming factor to her, one second she really cares about women, her sister, and equality, next minute shes ready to sell heroine and get child soldiers. Sounds like Anita, one second shes caring and noble, next second shes batshit insane. The dev being sassy saying "Here comes the SJW shit" was just getting people sassy, the most "SJW" shit in the game I guess would be when your stripped naked and forced to fight for women? Im assuming thats the stuff that was apparently going to piss SJW haters off or something. Honestly, its really seemed like its been taking subtle jabs at the entire SJW mindset a bit throughout the game, id not even really notice it if I didnt know about that tweet from one of the devs though.

Other than the names being similar what link is there between Sarkeesian and Amita

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;46593589]Other than the names being similar what link is there between Sarkeesian and Amita[/QUOTE] The mentality I guess.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;46593589]Other than the names being similar what link is there between Sarkeesian and Amita[/QUOTE] Mentality, wrongs making rights, being wrong yet have noble ideas, absolutely no idea how to achieve what she wants to achieve correctly. Its not really in your face, Amitas "Muh woymn" shit stops pretty early on and turns into "Muh drug children soliders" Whether this was all intended or not it does seem to playout with similarities regardless, it aint major shit though to worry about in the game.

I want jaden smith to follow anita and mcintosh's twitter, how can this be done. Though apart of me thinks that will bring an end to the world.

[QUOTE=V12US;46592193][t]http://i.imgur.com/fcDbGtD.png[/t] [URL]https://archive.today/OYV1L[/URL] So FreeBSDGirl, the person who made the IGDA approved GamerGate blacklist in order to "Stop harassment", just harassed a girl off of twitter for not being extreme enough. I wish I was making this shit up.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://38.media.tumblr.com/984ca7ef7a121fdedc38edc581daa948/tumblr_nfr3rdqCCQ1u2kee3o1_500.jpg[/IMG] Here is a little more discussion between her and the Aryan Vivian James. Also this: [IMG]https://33.media.tumblr.com/3aeaa705d6231f4fc229e0ad11eb3d3b/tumblr_nfr3rdqCCQ1u2kee3o4_1280.jpg[/IMG]

Fun is nothing more than a a synonym for "enjoyable", I fear people just confuse it with "funny", that is - comical, over the top, generally speaking 'not sad'. The Walking Dead took my heart, fed it with chocolate until it was as fat as possible, and then dropped a nuke on it. I'd say I found the experience extremely enjoyable.

[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46593822] Here is a little more discussion between her and the Aryan Vivian James. Also this: [/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Z8Sbyzu.png[/img] I hope that she finds KiA, even if she is still against Gamergate they are probably the most inclusive and non volatile group in this whole thing. How anyone can call AGG as being for people in general is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Thlis;46593879][img]http://i.imgur.com/Z8Sbyzu.png[/img] I hope that she finds KiA, even if she is still against Gamergate they are probably the most inclusive and non volatile group in this whole thing. How anyone can call AGG as being for people in general is beyond me.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if all this actually made her a GG supporter. (Why would someone with their head not completely up their ass be against us? Have we actually done something harmful ever as a group? It's puzzling me)

[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;46593822][IMG]https://33.media.tumblr.com/3aeaa705d6231f4fc229e0ad11eb3d3b/tumblr_nfr3rdqCCQ1u2kee3o4_1280.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] When I try to wrap my head around this I feel like I'm trying to get into the mind of the Joker. As for "dogpiling" and similar accusations: when you talk on Twitter you are talking in a public space. If you can't handle that, gtfo.

It's disgusting how fast they take an all or nothing approach to every argument and every person.

So I went to GamerGhazi to see what their reaction is to this. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cZxRvje.jpg[/IMG] [B]They are fucking nuts [/B]They think that because someone in the 1800s was named Clara Schumann, Claire Schumann must be a sockpuppet.

Jesus fuck, that's literally in "insane" territory.

[QUOTE=Thlis;46594067]So I went to GamerGhazi to see what their reaction is to this. [B]They are fucking nuts [/B]They think that because someone in the 1800s was named Clara Schumann, Claire Schumann must be a sockpuppet.[/QUOTE] Those are people who genuinely believe that gamergate is about getting the piss out of them, every single one, personally, and they pride themselves on... doing nothing. Just sitting in their sub, being as useful as a piece of rag and having discussions just as meaningful. That's the kind of stuff that is expected from such people.

I like the subtle "All Gators are ignorants fucks" implied by "GGers are far from the kind of people who would know Clara Schumann"

I've basically sent this out as far as I could.

[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;46594150]I like the subtle "All Gators are ignorants fucks" implied by "GGers are far from the kind of people who would know Clara Schumann"[/QUOTE] like they knew who she was before that person googled the name to try and find something lol

[QUOTE=Thlis;46594067]So I went to GamerGhazi to see what their reaction is to this. [B]They are fucking nuts [/B]They think that because someone in the 1800s was named Clara Schumann, Claire Schumann must be a sockpuppet.[/QUOTE] I went to gamerghazi once to see if maybe there was some sort of proper discussion going on there Place is a cesspit of circlejerking morons, and I'm saying that as neutrally and objectively I can. I would post some of the stupid shit I read there but frankly I'm not looking forward to go there again.

Here's the agg answers to claire, whoever she was. [url]https://archive.today/EPjfU[/url] There's a reason to be suspicious of it, but LW2 confirmed it so it's up in the air.

Wow. Of all the things anti-gg has done that's made my blood boil, this is the most horrifying and disgusting thing they've done. Why the everloving fuck are these people considered the Good Guys in this whole thing?

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46593415]Can we all remember for a second that the devs are pretty much shitting on Anita with Amita? There is not a single redeeming factor to her, one second she really cares about women, her sister, and equality, next minute shes ready to sell heroine and get child soldiers. Sounds like Anita, one second shes caring and noble, next second shes batshit insane. The dev being sassy saying "Here comes the SJW shit" was just getting people sassy, the most "SJW" shit in the game I guess would be when your stripped naked and forced to fight for women? Im assuming thats the stuff that was apparently going to piss SJW haters off or something. Honestly, its really seemed like its been taking subtle jabs at the entire SJW mindset a bit throughout the game, id not even really notice it if I didnt know about that tweet from one of the devs though.[/QUOTE] I felt like her plans to turn Kyrat into a drug state actually made sense. You need money to win a war and the country has no other industry. Sabal's plan consisted of wishful thinking and outmoded traditions. And Sabal winds up being a huge zealot anyway, he [sp]has people killed for not being of the same religion as him.[/sp] Point is that I didn't really get SJW vs non SJW as much I got conservative vs progressive. I personally think trying to draw parralells between Amita and Anita are reaching.

[QUOTE=01271;46594250]Here's the agg answers to claire, whoever she was. [url]https://archive.today/EPjfU[/url] There's a reason to be suspicious of it, but LW2 confirmed it so it's up in the air.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter what happened, their response was not only off color and abhorrent but it paints them in this horrible image because they went full retard on it. I don't care if it was a sockpuppet, they played right into the sock puppet's hand and exploded all over it. I don't know which is dumber, that it was a legit AGGer getting harassed off or a trap that laid bait which was bit.