Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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[QUOTE=Fangz;46707449]So I just realized that Liam O'Brien, the voice of Illidan Stormrage, is anti-gamergate.
That kinda bums me out.[/QUOTE]
You'll find rather a large number of actors and several devs are #AGG, and have no problem being such due to social/logistical size and political leanings.
The simple rub is if you're expecting and hoping "all the people I like, like all the likes I like in liking" as you go through life, you're going to lose a shit-ton of role models. I adore Tex Avery's work for example; he was racist and sexist and very much a product of his age. Because I have different social mores than he did does exactly jack shit to lessen his impact or work in his chosen field. We aren't the same person, nor should that ever be expected to begin with.
The version of social justice that exists now doesn't recognize this, and that's why it'll never be anything more than a social fad and temporal phase; "remember those guys, that shit was [I]nuts[/I]."
[QUOTE=JesterUK;46707815]I don't really hear Blum much anymore[/QUOTE]
You kidding? He's still everywhere.
He's in pretty much every credits sequence.
[QUOTE=bdd458;46706859]Not going to give that video views but jesus christ something else I like has fallen under the SJW's Eye of Mordor.
EDIT: I know generalizing people is bad, but fuck some of the nicest people I've ever met have been metal heads, this is honestly really pissing me off.[/QUOTE]
Assuming you're referring to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1421478&p=46706229&viewfull=1#post46706229"]this post[/URL] it's actually a Sargon video so you don't have to feel bad for giving it views (unless Sargon isn't your cup of tea of course)
[editline]13th December 2014[/editline]
Also when did KotakuInAction change their logo in the upper-left to a sea lion?
[IMG]http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/PwFw_pJXgPDF8Tax299TIzC5Qva0yoAGNIhr0-bSJp4.png[/IMG]
I haven't checked the subreddit as often as I used to but this is brilliant.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;46708316]Assuming you're referring to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1421478&p=46706229&viewfull=1#post46706229"]this post[/URL] it's actually a Sargon video so you don't have to feel bad for giving it views (unless Sargon isn't your cup of tea of course)
[editline]13th December 2014[/editline]
Also when did KotakuInAction change their logo in the upper-left to a sea lion?
[IMG]http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/PwFw_pJXgPDF8Tax299TIzC5Qva0yoAGNIhr0-bSJp4.png[/IMG]
I haven't checked the subreddit as often as I used to but this is brilliant.[/QUOTE]
when gamergate adopted a sea lion
i didn't realize it was sargon at the time b/c firefox was telling me flash is out of date and it isn't because I updated it, and I haven't enabled it on Facepunch so I didn't see who made it. I just assumed the worst.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;46706611]Great, ANOTHER subculture I indulge myself with getting attacked. Man, this is just the grandest thing![/QUOTE]
I'm going to worry if it lasts more than a week.
I had a dream about Gamergate the other day.
It was caused by them pictures about that interview thing with that group of people.
Apparently some GG girl was talking to this antiGG girl and a few people were around the two and the GG girl was owning AntiGG girl with her words and making probably really good arguments. My mind wasn't really paying attention. I just felt it. Then the AntiGG girl disappears and Moot comes out of nowhere and tells GG girl to get out of his house and that she doesn't belong here, that no one does.
And that's when I woke up and thought that was probably one of the weirdest dreams I've ever had.
[QUOTE=residntevl;46709070]I had a dream about Gamergate the other day.
It was caused by them pictures about that interview thing with that group of people.
Apparently some GG girl was talking to this antiGG girl and a few people were around the two and the GG girl was owning AntiGG girl with her words and making probably really good arguments. My mind wasn't really paying attention. I just felt it. Then the AntiGG girl disappears and Moot comes out of nowhere and tells GG girl to get out of his and that she doesn't belong here, that no one does.
And that's when I woke up and thought that was probably one of the weirdest dreams I've ever had.[/QUOTE]
I had a weird dream where Zoe, Wu and Moot all gave in and joined Pro GG and made a video mocking themselves by calling themselves hacks.
[url]http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/12/wikipedia_editing_disputes_the_crowdsourced_encyclopedia_has_become_a_rancorous.single.html#comments[/url]
[quote]I recently delved into the wild and wooly realm of Wikipedia editing, which helped me appreciate just how unique and byzantine its environment is. A controversial edit of a page attributed views to me I would never hold, and when I tried to correct the misinformation, several recalcitrant editors attacked me until Wales himself stepped in and saner editors prevailed and fixed the error. (To them, I am grateful.) As it turned out, I’d run into a couple of what one Wikipedia administrator terms “The Unblockables,” a class of abrasive editors who can get away with murder because they have enough of a fan club within Wikipedia, so any complaint made against them would be met with hostility and opprobrium.
My experience was probably worse than most, but Wikipedia remains daunting to a newcomer. Unlike pretty much every other website of note, Wikipedia really is an experiment in controlled anarchy, and its strengths and weaknesses stem largely from the fact that there is no central authority with its hand on the tiller. Every editor is in theory on a par with every other one, with only about 1,400 “administrators” with the power to sanction and block editors and an overbooked Arbitration Committee for extreme cases of discord. The current governance of Wikipedia is a legalistic anarchy, in which complicated rules, frequently invoked only through arcane acronyms like BLP, AGF, NOR, and even IAR (ignore all rules), are selectively deployed by experienced editors in order to prevail in debates. I am not exaggerating when I say it is the closest thing to Kafka’s The Trial I have ever witnessed, with editors and administrators giving conflicting and confusing advice, complaints getting “boomeranged” onto complainants who then face disciplinary action for complaining, and very little consistency in the standards applied. In my short time there, I repeatedly observed editors lawyering an issue with acronyms, only to turn around and declare “Ignore all rules!” when faced with the same rules used against them.
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Ouch, Auerbach.
"The Unblockables" is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beeblebrox/The_unblockables]pretty good though.[/url]
I hope metalgate becomes really, really fucking big. I want it to be huge. Why? because everyone will point at it and go "lmao its just music fuck off" and everyone involved will be branded a lunatic.
What is metalgate exactly? I know it's music related but why?
[QUOTE=Xonax;46709831]What is metalgate exactly? I know it's music related but why?[/QUOTE]
A couple of articles calling metalheads shitheads basically. A smaller scale "Gamers are dead" that wont go anywhere.
And if it does go somewhere well Gamergate and Metalgate are natural born allies, so AGG will be fighting on two fronts. It's either nothing or good for us in the long run.
[QUOTE=Xonax;46709831]What is metalgate exactly? I know it's music related but why?[/QUOTE]
Seriously guys, its infuriating when you don't even read at least one page before the last one.
Metalgate is a parody of gamergate with involving metal music. People started saying how metal is, for nteenth time, the scum of earth and should die, and all metalheads are dead.
ok gamergate wins because CBS Sunday Morning is showing a positive piece of Pro Gaming. like that was pretty cool, and i don't really care for e-sports or twitch or really anything they covered.
[video=youtube;o5Gnz8bLAkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Gnz8bLAkI[/video]
Check his other videos too, they're spot on
people here like her recap videos, therefor post
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/yhCqUi3.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Wii60;46712357][img]http://i.imgur.com/yhCqUi3.png[/img][/QUOTE]
What's the story behind this?
Would buy the game if I hadn't already bought it.
Also it's not that great :/// but awesome environments however.
Especially hilarious since The Vanishing of Ethan Carter is exactly the kind of art game they've been lauding all this time. Ah, okay, so what makes a game good isn't how fun it is, nor even the meaning behind it, but who made the game? Okay, good to know.
More of the Arthur gies bitching festival
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4wMEDzCAAAvC3Z.png[/IMG]
and here's Niche Gamer's article about Adrian Chmielarz and the interview they did
[URL]http://nichegamer.net/2014/12/adrian-chmielarz-interview-gamergate-vitriol-and-saying-enough-is-enough/[/URL]
here's how he discovered his stance on GG
[QUOTE]AC: Gamergate was something awful for me in the beginning.
In the past, I have been attacked directly and indirectly by some gamers for my work or opinions, and that slightly affected me. It always affects you, even if you tell yourself you’re dealing with vocal idiots or a trolling minority.
But whatever I went through was absolutely nothing compared to, say, a massive flood of pure hatred against Adam Orth or the creators of Mass Effect 3. Orth said something silly, but the internet made it sound like the police discovered a half eaten human head in his fridge. The Mass Effect 3 ending was controversial (but it kind of worked for me) and the internet made it sound like the creators stole and spit on the public’s only childhood photo with grandma.
So when I heard about Gamergate, I bought it. Gamers behaving like shit? Yeah, sure. Making a storm in a tea cup? Of course. Territorial to the point of madness? Yup.
What slowly opened my eyes were two things.
First, Gamergate’s persistence. When you’re on Twitter, it’s impossible not to hear about Gamergate. And then every now and then you read something pro-Gamergate that makes sense and that forces you to dig deeper. I have a very analytical mind, so I did dig deeper. And what I saw was not matching what some call “the official narrative”. Like every human being, I am biased, but I am trying my best to fight it. So after learning more on Gamergate, I admitted to myself that I was wrong about it.
Second, the more I heard about Gamergate from the hardcore anti- side, the more I became suspicious of their views. It’s not just stuff like their reflectionless support of dishonest, manipulative game critics like Jonathan McIntosh or Anita Sarkeesian. Or their “if the facts don’t fit the theory, too bad for the facts” philosophy. It was also their total contempt for anyone who disagrees with their views. Contempt supported with some of the most vile tweets I have ever seen on Twitter. I try to learn as many facts as I can from anyone, pro- and anti-. Check who I follow on Twitter to see that it’s true. But I had to stop following a couple of journalists and fellow game developers simply because I could not take the poison anymore.
To sum it up: I was against, but something was fishy, I started to dig deeper, discovered that Gamergate was not what I was told it was.
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Here's someone who disproved the Stormfront and Gamergate link:
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/comments/2p9h0u/my_report_on_gamergate_and_stormfront/[/url]
[QUOTE=Wii60;46712663]More of the Arthur gies bitching festival
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4wMEDzCAAAvC3Z.png[/IMG]
and here's Niche Gamer's article about Adrian Chmielarz and the interview they did
[URL]http://nichegamer.net/2014/12/adrian-chmielarz-interview-gamergate-vitriol-and-saying-enough-is-enough/[/URL]
here's how he discovered his stance on GG[/QUOTE]
God damnit. I need to support this man. I'm glad SOMEBODY knows to call bullshit when they smell it.
Adrian, not the asshole on Twitter.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46712663][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4wMEDzCAAAvC3Z.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Which is ironic because you're acting like a child and you haven't created anything cool.
information needs to be further confirmed but the claim is there
[url]http://theralphretort.com/sjw-media-blackouts-coverage-of-japan-chroniclers-book/[/url]
[quote]The mainstream games press has closed ranks against me in a deliberate attempt to kill my career. Despite all the hard work I have done researching primary sources and trying to be ethical, producing work of genuine value, the industry is now trying to ostracise me.
I write for numerous other websites and magazines, and I have zero interest in tainting my work with social politics. I document games and their history without the moral prejudice modern writers seem to wallow in.
I am also the author of “The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers” book. I was funded through Kickstarter and travelled to Japan, hiring interpreters to conduct interviews with numerous videogame legends.
My problem stems from the coordinator I hired in Japan, Hanako Kaku, who scammed me out of money, and her dangerously psychopathic sister, Agness Kaku. While in Japan my coordinator requested payment in advance for booking fees, which I paid, and then she supplied poor quality interpreters (her friends) who couldn’t handle the work provided. The exception was an outside interpreter named Maiko McKelvey, who I brought on board. Hanako described her as a “junior” and encouraged me to hire her friends instead, who turned out to be incompetent. I parted company with Hanako who immediately tried to sabotage my project by telling the outside interpreter, Maiko, not to show up for bookings I had already paid for. I made this public, and since then the sisters have stopped at nothing to destroy my career, my reputation, and my project.
Agness sent a defamatory email out using the IGDA’s mailing system. This would have been received by the thousands of paying IGDA members.
It was a gross abuse of her privileges as an IGDA member, for which she should have immediately been banned. Sadly she was not banned.
I was formerly an IGDA member too (you pay to subscribe and be a member), but given their lax attitude, I did not bother to renew my subscription.
As a result of the sisters contacting all games media outlets, lying about me, accusing me of misogyny, and maintaining a Twitter account dedicated solely to spreading hatred about me, no one in the press is willing to give coverage to my work.
There are a few exceptions, such as Ollie Barder of Forbes and Mecha Damashii, but otherwise I have been stonewalled by all the other websites and magazines. Rather than investigate this matter, or judge my book on its own merits, they would rather side with Kaku sisters in an attempt to end my career.
There are two aspects to this situation:
1) I produced what I think is a very compelling work, featuring more undocumented information than pretty much any other book on the subject. It has been completely ignored because of two lying sisters, who lie and use the word “misogyny” to attack anyone they do not like. They scammed me out of money. When I then presented the facts, they stopped at nothing to destroy me.
2) Agness Kaku, translator for Metal Gear Solid 2, is one of the most dangerous people in the games industry, resorting to blackmail, extortion, threats, doxxing, libel tourism, breaking NDAs, and every conceivable lie imaginable to damage others. It is no surprise she has been fired on multiple occasions from different companies. I have never come across someone as vindictive as her. Anyone who crosses her path is labelled “mentally ill” and a “misogynist”.
When I wrote the book I did so without any kind of leftist agenda. I documented facts as is. With interviewees I discussed adult games, hentai, and other controversial topics, without passing judgement or trying to moralise. In fact I’m quite proud of the fact that one reader complained online that he was pissed off with me for not condemning Japanese culture in the interviews.
Why would any decent journalist do that? My objective was to celebrate Japanese games and culture, not demonise or condemn anyone.
My only concern, and it’s a small one, is that I want to emphasise that I contacted you and the GG community as a free agent – not as a representative of any establishment I’ve written for.
I spoke the truth and have now been punished for it by the gatekeepers of the media, because I do not share their values.
For the limited edition cover I had Sega and Falcom artist Hitoshi Yoneda produce a piece of beautiful artwork, showing a powerful, attractive young woman on the cover, and… Yes, you guessed it, the Social Justice Warriors came out in force to condemn it for having a “sexist” cover. It’s easy to find if you Google the name of the book and the word “PLATINUM”. It’s a beautiful piece of art by a well known master of the work.
I think the GamerGate community, who appreciate honest journalism, would value my book. It’s all first hand research from primary sources, without any SJW moralising or condemnation. It’s an honest, heart-felt level of journalism which is rare today.
Unfortunately my ability to produce this work has been severely compromised because of a conceited effort by the mainstream to silence me.
I would be happy for some kind of coverage, if you feel it would be of interest to the GamerGate community. With most of the mainstream media stonewalling me, I’ve effectively been silenced and denied the opportunity for publicity for my work.
It’s sad, because I’ve written one of the largest and most significant game history books available, and because two sisters are angry with me for calling out their scamming business practices, they accuse me of misogyny and suddenly the press closes ranks to destroy my career.
That is dangerous behaviour.[/quote]
[video=youtube;KEQK7lc-O6Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQK7lc-O6Y[/video]
Haven't seen this posted yet, Pro-gg News interview
[QUOTE=Krazzykidd;46714305][video=youtube;KEQK7lc-O6Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQK7lc-O6Y[/video]
Haven't seen this posted yet, Pro-gg News interview[/QUOTE]
Wait, Sun News doing a [I]PGG[/I] article?! That's the last place I would've expected one to pop up on any Canuck station.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46713878]information needs to be further confirmed but the claim is there
[url]http://theralphretort.com/sjw-media-blackouts-coverage-of-japan-chroniclers-book/[/url][/QUOTE]
He's an author for hardcoregaming101? I enjoyed reading their articles.
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