Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Xonax;46801169]I did this but they emailed me about suicide hotlines, thinking I was the one attempting it. What the. Hopefully she didn't kill herself. I think this will show people how much of a bully AGG is. Also isn't trying to get someone to kill themselves illegal?[/QUOTE] they did for me tot but the second paragraph is like "if this isn't you we are talkin about here, blah blah blah" also Chloe is Anti-gg i think.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46801172]they did for me tot but the second paragraph is like "if this isn't you we are talkin about here, blah blah blah" also Chloe is Anti-gg i think.[/QUOTE] they're the person who used indiegogo to raise funds for "life changing" surgery that turned out to be a sex change operation. they've also threatened suicide before and attempted suicide live on twitch before

[QUOTE=Wii60;46801172]they did for me tot but the second paragraph is like "if this isn't you we are talkin about here, blah blah blah" also Chloe is Anti-gg i think.[/QUOTE] She doesn't need to be harassed by people she is supporting. Or by anyone.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46801208]they're the person who used indiegogo to raise funds for "life changing" surgery that turned out to be a sex change operation. they've also threatened suicide before and attempted suicide live on twitch before[/QUOTE] yea shes clearly not in a good mental state, which is why i am very worried.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46801208]they're the person who used indiegogo to raise funds for "life changing" surgery that turned out to be a sex change operation. they've also threatened suicide before and attempted suicide live on twitch before[/QUOTE] Is she? Hmm, I thought something was off when she was going on about Markipler not noticing her when she contacted him about suicide.

please do treat this as serious, though, because a potential suicide/suicide attempt is not something to treat lightly

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46801219]please do treat this as serious, though, because a potential suicide/suicide attempt is not something to treat lightly[/QUOTE] I am, I was just saying something was off about it.

[QUOTE=Xonax;46801252]I am, I was just saying something was off about it.[/QUOTE] i know you are, just didn't want to look like i was saying "shes done it before shell do it again dont pay attention to her!!!" [editline]26th December 2014[/editline] you had broken my automerge which is why it looks like it was a response to you, it was a general statement rather than directed at anyone

Chloe is someone who needs to be banned from the internet for their own good This is like the 9th time they went on twitter to announce their impending death I'd think they should get help but something tells me they don't want it

I think more good would come from taking the stigma away from mental health issues and focusing more money treatment than anything else. Seriously a lot of people dont get help because they dont want it hanging over their head.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46800327]i think chloe sagal (Donated her money to fem freq and didnt pay IRS taxes) killed herself or something via overdose/heart attack??? [URL]https://twitter.com/ChloeSagal[/URL] i already sent twitter a self harm report and twitter is trying to reach out to her.[/QUOTE] Late reply, - [URL]https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%40chloeSagal%20suicide%20OR%20suicidal&src=typd[/URL] We should seriously be ignoring her, she literally has nothing to do with gamergate and never will. Shes been "Attempting suicide" for over three years now, and nobody has done anything about it. She's according that search anyways, attempted suicide THREE times in the past two weeks. This time however, asking for money from popular youtubbers to get her to stop. Yeah, really. Did you know, this is the second time shes done a "kickstarter fraud?" Yes, the guitar amp thing was the second time. The first time she claimed her life was in danger and needed life-saving surgery. [URL="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-09-homesick-dev-chloe-sagal-successfully-crowd-funding-life-saving-operation"]Turns out the surgery was for gender altercation after she claimed it was for metal shrapnel in her body.[/URL] Indiegogo [B]confirmed it was fraud[/B] and returned everyones money. Afterwords, she attempted suicide live on twitch by swallowing unmarked pills. She has never posted any evidence of her having shrapnel in her body - even if she did, according to the page before it was taken down, she would be dead by now! Why is this of any interest? She just attempted suicide again today - but was good enough to post this on twitter - [URL]https://twitter.com/ChloeSagal/status/548562715963559937[/URL] - that's right - she had a heart attack while committing suicide. Earlier, she asked for the donations from Markiplier and to take down his video on her game because she had a terminal illness. [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5y6GrlCAAEBDvG.png:large"]He replied with these messages[/URL] and informed her she needed to seek help. Mark suggested she make a website. Instead she wanted her youtube channel to be put, and the image suggests he did so. For some reason or another he removed the video outright later (his youtube page no longer has the video up.) She then proceeded to freak out on twitter, and "attempted suicide" and had a "heart attack" while attempting it. Luckily she was well enough an hour later to post that twitter post! Shes most likely lying. I'm sorry - but the evidence stacks up. The "Heart attack" part is so blatantly bullshit it reaks of something. Looking at what she's done before - we know for a FACT that she has lied in the past - which leads me to believe she has one of the following. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_by_Internet[/URL] [URL]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_playing[/URL] We will also notice that every "suicide attempt" has been related in someway when she doesn't get her way. In the recent kickstarter scam for guitar amps(?) Often times, these people often seek attention and will become more erratic as time goes on and more prone to making mistakes, often times, they will grow a "fanbase" in which they are admired and defended. The other reasons - which the indiegogo campaign proves - is for monetary value. A quote from Dr. Marc D. Feldman, a psychiatrist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham - [quote]Why would anyone do such terrible things? Dr. Feldman said most people with factitious disorders were ''longing for nurturing, sympathy, care and concern that they feel unable to get in appropriate ways.'' They also like being treated as heroes and admired for their courage in the face of adversity.[/quote] What other psychological feelings does she express? She expresses something called psychosis - or if your a buzzword user - psychotic. Yes - she really is. How do we know? [URL="https://twitter.com/Lexi_Like_Crazy/status/540447947100790784"]Well..[/URL] In this situation we find she "got excited about a project" and broke into her roommates rooms after they became concerned, I can only assume through brute force. Why does this relate to psychosis? It shows that she wants attention - to the point of being out of touch with reality so much that she will preform violence to get it. She has shown this type of behaviour in the past, for example, sending people harassment messages, then claiming she didn't send them and shes been harassed and to report the users. She then replied to the post countering her argument - saying not to post her Skype - oh wait - that means she DID send the messages. What is going on? (Worth noting - she does this to a lot of her friends, as evidenced by the two above situations.) Is she faking? Probably. The psychological patterns would say "over 85% sure." She may not either - but eventually if she continues the "Attempted suicide" line she is going to get taken off the internet either by trained professionals or police, since it's obvious the source of her depression / and or faking. [B]This makes her completely irrelevant to gamergate.[/B] Yes- you heard me. She literally just attached herself to it to gain attention, she has a problem and the evidence says so. [B]So stop giving it to her.[/B] This girl has a problem and she needs help. But for the love of god stop posting it here, it seriously doesn't mean shit, keep it to her and her friends, and followers, whatever. I keep hearing about her in KiA and here and it's all about "oh shes going to commit self harm we need to save her!" It does nothing but derail actual discussions and keep them on "look at what X did today!" And I am sure that one poster is going to say "But why are you posting this if you don't want people posting about it?" Because somebody apparently needs to tell you to stop, this post will hopefully outline why I personally think shes a compulsive liar and just doing it for the attention you are giving her, and why she is unrelated to gamergate. That'll be all! Sources: [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/23/technology/faking-pain-and-suffering-in-internet-support-groups.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print[/URL] [URL]http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-06-26/news/cybersickness/[/URL] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying[/URL] [URL]http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2009-03/24/reports-of-my-death.aspx?lsd[/URL] (I realize the sources mostly return back to Dr. Feldman - but hes been the most prominent, confirmed professional to actually have studied these cases.) [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis[/URL] [URL]http://witchycat.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/chloe-sagal-is-compulsively-lying-to-her-friends-about-me-and-its-terrifying/[/URL] Other sources are links within the posts. [editline]a[/editline] P.S Wii60, why the hell is it whenever I look at another "Look at what X did today!" post it's almost always from you, seriously, tone it down.

well you don't need to directly interact with her, but taking the time to at least let twitter know she might be in trouble should be common courtesy. better safe than sorry with these kinds of things

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46802383]well you don't need to directly interact with her, but taking the time to at least let twitter know she might be in trouble should be common courtesy. better safe than sorry with these kinds of things[/QUOTE] Yeah, sure. It still doesn't warrant discussion on gamergate topics.

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46802285]:words:[/QUOTE] If the faking of suicides for money isn't classified as fraud, I don't know what is.

Lets just hope she gets help she needs it and would probably be an alright person once she does,true for a lot of the people of agg,while not everyone falls into that category many of them seem to not be in the best place.

[QUOTE=Zyler;46800945][img]http://i.imgur.com/hd0dtrz.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Ugh that comic really pisses me off. She claims to speak for every woman and of course "Male Power Fantasy".

[QUOTE=BigPalooka;46803005]Ugh that comic really pisses me off. She claims to speak for every woman and of course "Male Power Fantasy".[/QUOTE] That's why this superior version exists: [IMG]http://puu.sh/dLbud.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46802285]Dr. Marc D. Feldman, a psychiatrist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham[/QUOTE] This actually gives a tiny chance that I may be able to actually contact Dr. Feldman if he's still around. I'm a student at UAB, returning at the start of January, and they do give students resources to contact faculty around campus. I'm having a hard time finding any information saying he is still employed at UAB however, so I don't know if he still is, or if even could even be alive. It'd actually be really great to be able to speak directly to him however about this. Who else would be better than the man who literally wrote the book on the subject? The best I can find is a page in the directory saying he is an adjunct professor, so he might still be around campus, but its hard to say.

[QUOTE=Zet;46803012]That's why this superior version exists: [/QUOTE] Damn those stupid sexy vampires stopping time and dropping steam rollers.

[QUOTE=BigPalooka;46803005]Ugh that comic really pisses me off. She claims to speak for every woman and of course "Male Power Fantasy".[/QUOTE] My question is, where does it stop? Is a lesbian artist drawing a sexual female character a male power fantasy too? What about a straight woman artist? Or a gay man? Are the concepts of male power fantasies (which aren't even officially recognised as a concept yet, being a relatively new idea) and female objectification so unbelievably powerful that one's own sex or gender doesn't matter? If I, a trans girl, draw a man whom I perceive to be attractive, is that still a male power fantasy, even if I intentionally create him to be sexy?

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46803882]My question is, where does it stop? Is a lesbian artist drawing a sexual female character a male power fantasy too? What about a straight woman artist? Or a gay man? Are the concepts of male power fantasies (which aren't even officially recognised as a concept yet, being a relatively new idea) and female objectification so unbelievably powerful that one's own sex or gender doesn't matter? If I, a trans girl, draw a man whom I perceive to be attractive, is that still a male power fantasy, even if I intentionally create him to be sexy?[/QUOTE] I guess me and pan/bi sexuals are fucked because both can be sexual fantasies.

[QUOTE=BigPalooka;46803005]Ugh that comic really pisses me off. She claims to speak for every woman and of course "Male Power Fantasy".[/QUOTE] The creator of that comic isn't even a woman.

The Angry Joe forums are mass censoring Gamergate discussion, just before his Top 10 controversies video comes out next week: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw8FVWfJCWk&[/media]

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46803366]This actually gives a tiny chance that I may be able to actually contact Dr. Feldman if he's still around. I'm a student at UAB, returning at the start of January, and they do give students resources to contact faculty around campus. I'm having a hard time finding any information saying he is still employed at UAB however, so I don't know if he still is, or if even could even be alive. It'd actually be really great to be able to speak directly to him however about this. Who else would be better than the man who literally wrote the book on the subject? The best I can find is a page in the directory saying he is an adjunct professor, so he might still be around campus, but its hard to say.[/QUOTE] send an email to a secretary at the department he worked in or something like that. I tracked down a professor by talking directly in person by doing just that.

[QUOTE=Fangz;46804161]The Angry Joe forums are mass censoring Gamergate discussion, just before his Top 10 controversies video comes out next week: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw8FVWfJCWk&[/media][/QUOTE] Not for us to care about really.

He couldn't find anything to put for #10 so he created his own.

Oh come on Joe, I thought you were better than that. I hope he realizes that the mass censorship will only do more harm than good in the end.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;46804120]I guess me and pan/bi sexuals are fucked because both can be sexual fantasies.[/QUOTE] Right? It's exactly how I feel about "the male gaze." I like women! Am I not allowed to find Bayonetta sexy?

[QUOTE=Wii60;46800327]i think chloe sagal (Donated her money to fem freq and didnt pay IRS taxes) killed herself or something via overdose/heart attack??? [URL]https://twitter.com/ChloeSagal[/URL] i already sent twitter a self harm report and twitter is trying to reach out to her.[/QUOTE] She probably has intense anxiety, but not a heart attack. Heart attacks greatly impair your motor control and speech. My father had it two years ago and he wasn't able to write, talk, or type coherently.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;46804924]She probably has intense anxiety, but not a heart attack. Heart attacks greatly impair your motor control and speech. My father had it two years ago and he wasn't able to write, talk, or type coherently.[/QUOTE] she has been putting out tweets, she apparently has cushing's and is dying from it