Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=AaronM202;45904760]I still dont know how to feel about him, but he's gettin a bit of respect points back.[/QUOTE]Careful..

Randy Pitchford may be a greedy, money grubbing worm, but even evil has standards.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45904798]Randy Pitchford may be a greedy, money grubbing worm, but even evil has standards.[/QUOTE] I'd rather have money grubbing than restricted creative freedom.

I don't approve of the way that Colonial Marines was handled but when Randy actually wants gearbox to make something worth a damn it doesn't seem like he lets petty things get in his way. He does understand the field he's working in, he just doesn't always do the right thing.

[url]http://gamergateharrassment.tumblr.com/[/url] I found this tumblr while browsing /v/, it's got many more examples of shitty behaviour than my imgur album does. (for reference: [url]http://imgur.com/a/Iryng[/url])

The more I read about Anthony, the more he seems like the type to commit a workplace shooting. Seriously, the guy has "unstable" written all over him. I can buy him entering Gearbox's offices and gunning down employees that made fun of him behind his back while going to Randy's office to execute him.

[QUOTE=Wii60;45902650]this is too fucking perfect [editline]5th September 2014[/editline] Also for added hilarity, We finally found a term for SJW's That won't associate with social justice! [URL]https://twitter.com/Bobbledorf/status/508033679936208896[/URL] "Legbeards" [editline]5th September 2014[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xjEO5Jo.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] This might have been said already and I'm still catching up to the thread but I really need to say this. Can we not go into calling these people legbeards? It won't do any good and it's very hypocritical to call them that when we got mad for them labelling us neckbearded basement dwellers

I think he became angry when his wife made their marriage an open-relationship getting tons of guys, while he's getting nothing.

[QUOTE=Wii60;45902394][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ep8vw4Z.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Oh shit. This actually explains the decline in good MMORPG's from Korea post around 2005.

[QUOTE=Cliff2;45904726]Speaking of Randy. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LYMAEp3.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] that's a god damn lie randy and you know it [editline]6th September 2014[/editline] never forget

[QUOTE=Matrix374;45905168]This might have been said already and I'm still catching up to the thread but I really need to say this. Can we not go into calling these people legbeards? It won't do any good and it's very hypocritical to call them that when we got mad for them labelling us neckbearded basement dwellers[/QUOTE] Someone in the replies called them Social Justice Parasites, seems like a pretty good term to me. SJW seems too easy to use as a badge of honour rather than an insult.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;45905446]that's a god damn lie randy and you know it [editline]6th September 2014[/editline] never forget[/QUOTE] About Anita Sarkeesian approaching him? Or the last thing he said.

patrick keplek from giantbomb talks about it (and fails at talkin about the issue properly) [URL]http://v.giantbomb.com/2014/09/03/vf_patrickcoffee3_090414_800.mp4[/URL] 5:12 (also why do people link giantbomb videos as direct file links lol) [editline]6th September 2014[/editline] im goin to sleep but before i do, updated pic [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cXWMiia.png[/IMG]

Zoe "Cuckold" Quinn has posted a "bombshell" that reveals that #gamergate is actually run by a shadowy cabal of people on IRC that certainly isn't a cherry-picked IRC chatroom! [URL]https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate[/URL] It says a lot about a person if they think that a giant movement involving nerds was secretly controlled by an Illuminati-like association of people in an obscure IRC chatroom, but not in the way they expect. Rami "Spends over a year making a mediocre 8-bit retro game in a game company" Ismael is now saying that those poor Gamergate people were just manipulated and that they should give it up. Surprise, he's buds with Zoe. Also, if you believe anything Zoe says you're dumb TBH.

Zoe must have been a farmer in a former life, because that is some pristine cherry picking. We're already trying to counter it on twitter by using #AgainstHarassment along with #NotYourShield and #GamerGate

[QUOTE=V12US;45897019]We are witnessing the death throes of "Gaming Journalism".[/QUOTE] Make that Gaming "Journalism", I'd rather still have some news sources around that can review games early.

That's just gold, people talking shit in an IRC channel somehow means they are manipulating everything and the FBI will certainly take this seriously. But I guess people have fallen for stupider things if you cherrypick from IRC channels, there were plenty of people on 4chan believing in an SRS conspiracy for a while, now it's their turn to take things out of context and assume the worst.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;45906013]That's just gold, people talking shit in an IRC channel somehow means they are manipulating everything and the FBI will certainly take this seriously. But I guess people have fallen for stupider things if you cherrypick from IRC channels, there were plenty of people on 4chan believing in an SRS conspiracy for a while, now it's their turn to take things out of context and assume the worst.[/QUOTE] If you think giant movements can be made and controlled by a tiny group of conspirators ala House of Cards or Game of Thones, you really shouldn't be commenting on anything like how a movement works. TV isn't how reality behaves at all.

I really can't wait for this to be over and I really can't wait for people like Zoe to fade into obscurity

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45906047]If being 7 years on irc has teached me anything it is that any groupthink is purely incidental. And that channels with 243 oeioke create a lot of bullshit that is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] Everyone knows that IRC is the hacker's hideout and that 10 dorks chatting about some bad stuff regarding gamergate in one of those hacker hideouts means that EVERYONE is being manipulated by them! The anti-GamerGate side is already saying "welp, gamergate is over. We exposed the conspiracy to harass innocent game designers and women!" with Rami trying to look like the enlightened moderate by making some passive-aggressive anti-Gamergate tweets trying to paint pro-Gamergate people as mindless dupes that need to see the truth.

SJWs in denial that people in #GamerGate are against harassment. It's really sad to see them not even try to discuss what it's about. [URL]https://twitter.com/Geomancer1980/status/508228421575770112[/URL] (yes, I'm that guy with zet in their handle)

She's ridiculous. You want proof that these pro-ZQ people conditionally care about harassment? #AgainstHarassment is it. You know, I actually reached out to Zoe about making videos for her sexual harassment network. I sent her a bunch of intersectional feminist video projects I did, that I was invited to Grad seminars and lectures for. Yet she never got back to me about helping end sexual harassment in gaming. What a shame.

She's too busy helping the FBI take her down for doxing and ddosing a website... Oh, and get other people taken down for harassment... probably.

[QUOTE=Zet;45906158]She's too busy helping the FBI take her down for doxing and ddosing a website... Oh, and get other people taken down for harassment... probably.[/QUOTE] She probably either realized I did that twitlong or she needs "volunteers" that are highly connected in the industry. I mean the offer still stands. She can shoot me an e-mail right now and I'll make videos about sexual harassment on the Internet (as long as they're divorced from GG). But it's been like 3 days, doubt she really cares about my work.

[QUOTE=Reimu;45906172]She probably either realized I did that twitlong or she needs "volunteers" that are highly connected in the industry. I mean the offer still stands. She can shoot me an e-mail right now and I'll make videos about sexual harassment on the Internet (as long as they're divorced from GG). But it's been like 3 days, doubt she really cares about my work.[/QUOTE] I think she hasn't blocked me on twitter yet, so I can ask her for you if you want.

[QUOTE=Zet;45906178]I think she hasn't blocked me yet, so I can ask her for you if you want.[/QUOTE] Nah, don't bother. If she didn't reply on e-mail then she probably doesn't want to be associated. I basically fucked over Maya anyway by exchanging e-mails with them, then proceeding to find out more information about them and posting a call out, so Zoe probably has good reasons not to trust me. If she has been watching over /v/ then she probably knows just as much about me as everyone on here does, anyway.

Or maybe she never saw it if she is being bombarded with emails.

[QUOTE=Zet;45906195]Or maybe she never saw it if she is being bombarded with emails.[/QUOTE] Hmm. True. Eh, I'd say give it some time. I can always tweet directly at her anyway, since she hasn't blocked me either.

Hahaha Zoe's posted screnecaps from the IRC channel she "exposed". [URL]https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/508237870495064064/photo/1[/URL] Note the date in the second picture; it says that it's Sunday, but it's actually Saturday right now. Unless Zoe somehow managed to time travel, she's posted an old image from probably two weeks ago, since it's focused on Zoe herself instead of Gamergate in general and has Erol talking about Zoe in it. I think she's trying to dig up old screenshots she took in order and trying to frame them as taken recently to smear Gamergate. The first image is from a completely seperate IRC channel that shows no wrongdoing and has a small amount of users for what one would expect from an IRC channel. It's just her trying to make the reader associate the first image as coming from the same source as the second one.

Yeah, those IRC logs are [i]really[/i] old. I remember when some of that chat first happened, it's definitely changed since then. It's so easy to expose how much cherry picking is going on.