Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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[QUOTE=Wii60;46829927]saltmines
[url]https://archive.today/xOnKs[/url][/QUOTE]
same day, max scoville leaves dtoid
[url]https://archive.today/axoro[/url]
[QUOTE=Wii60;46831163]same day, max scoville leaves dtoid
[url]https://archive.today/axoro[/url][/QUOTE]
Think the two are related?
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46829985]How ironic of a frenchman to indulge in stereotypes[/QUOTE]
In his defence, he's not given up yet.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46830939][url]http://www.p4rgaming.com/play4reals-gaming-journalism-of-the-year-awards-2014-sponsored-by-polygon/#[/url]
thanks p4rgaming for shilling out for victory.[/QUOTE]
Fun fact: the guy running p4r at one point used the online name [I]Clyde Clash[/I]. You might've heard of him before.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46831163]same day, max scoville leaves dtoid
[url]https://archive.today/axoro[/url][/QUOTE]
Did this nerd seriously put gamergate in with buying a house and getting engaged as part of his 2014 highlights?
[QUOTE=Fangz;46831040]So it looks like Totalbiscuit is at the breaking point at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Not really breaking point I think, [URL="https://archive.today/ZhzIE"]it looks more like he finally witnessed something that makes him not care about defending those people any longer[/URL].
Previously he was not directly replying to people he disagreed with at all to prevent them from getting mobbed. [URL="http://tweetsave.com/totalbiscuit/status/550409016883814400"]Now he does.[/URL]
[editline]1st January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46831047][IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/4ce6129d798182c698e873aea9a4f3bf.png[/IMG]
Enchance![/QUOTE]
[URL="https://archive.today/JIBpG"]Yes, he definitely had enough.[/URL]
I doubt he'd do anything aggressive though, I just assume he may put away the kid gloves a bit more.
#StopGamerGate2014 is dead in France now! Vive la France !
[QUOTE=_Axel;46831540]#StopGamerGate2014 is dead in France now! Vive la France ![/QUOTE]Max is going to have to cry himself to sleep tonight.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;46831431]Not really breaking point I think, [URL="https://archive.today/ZhzIE"]it looks more like he finally witnessed something that makes him not care about defending those people any longer[/URL].
Previously he was not directly replying to people he disagreed with at all to prevent them from getting mobbed. [URL="http://tweetsave.com/totalbiscuit/status/550409016883814400"]Now he does.[/URL]
[editline]1st January 2015[/editline]
[URL="https://archive.today/JIBpG"]Yes, he definitely had enough.[/URL]
I doubt he'd do anything aggressive though, I just assume he may put away the kid gloves a bit more.[/QUOTE]
I hope so, I hope TB gives each and everyone of these stupid assholes a reality check.
I can't fucking comprehend why WE are called the harassers, when all these dumbshits do is harass US.
For fucks sake, we can't even donate to OR support a charity anymore without them throwing a fucking temper tantrum worthy of a god damned three year old.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;46831306]Fun fact: the guy running p4r at one point used the online name [I]Clyde Clash[/I]. You might've heard of him before.[/QUOTE]
Yup.
[url]http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Clyde_Cash[/url]
Hes a pathetic but serious troll. I mean we are talking creepy levels of trolling, person is fucked up.
[QUOTE=Jordax;46831031]EDIT: Not that there is going to be anything new lost here, it is that shady AbleGamers charity, who are rather complaining about being able to jump in the new CoD instead of actually helping disabled gamers. They have denied charity money from GG and Mercedes Carrera before.[/QUOTE] This is on the streamer, Ablegamers had nothing to do with the whole fiasco.
And I'm going to keep giving them the benefit of the doubt cause the thing with mercedes' stream felt like it was mostly caused by ablegamers being manipulated by antigg and simply not knowing any better.
I haven't followed any of this shit in a long time but what the fuck happened to InternetAristocrat's channel?
[QUOTE=tempunary;46832158]I haven't followed any of this shit in a long time but what the fuck happened to InternetAristocrat's channel?[/QUOTE]
He was disappointed that GG wanted to stay moderate and quit
[QUOTE=Sitkero;46832174]He was disappointed that GG wanted to stay moderate and quit[/QUOTE]
Thank god hes gone, he did nothing but soil the name and attempt to push his own political ideologies into it.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/h1Yfb2v.png[/img]
TB is trying to get himself on the blocklist, oh boy. I wonder if he can get Randi Harper to put him on the full blacklist so he can get all of his followers on it, or it'll crash because of the shitty programming.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46827569]hey looks like pc gamer wants to talk to gamergate:
[URL]https://archive.today/xHeEB[/URL]
[/QUOTE]
I decided to write him an email.
Do you have any idea how much effort it took for the laziest man alive to do that? Man, fuck my life.
[QUOTE]Hey Chris,
I wanted to give you a bit of feedback on your GamerGate article. I could also talk about Dota, but that would be boring since we would both agree that it is clearly the best game ever made and that would be the end of it.
Anyway, GG. I'm neutral. I do however understand the motivations of those around me, who consider themselves pro gamergate. Frankly, I'm annoyed. The lack of proper discussion is the only reason why we're still talking about this months after it happend and now we reached the point where everything that happens is somehow being connected with gamergate. Does Target Australia's ban of GTA 5 have anything to do with it? Not really, but gamers do care about it and I guess that's something.
The reason I decided to join the discussion of Gamergate was because I felt like I was being pushed into a corner. Gamers have evolved over the last years. I've been to GamesCom 4 or 5 times and visited the Dota 2 tournament ESL One in Frankfurt. I'm happy to see that a lot more girls/women are becoming part of the gamer culture. And while I think Gone Home is a highly overrated game I frankly couldn't care less about it. I don't go on an internet rampage if someone calls it their game of the year.
I consider myself part of the silent majority. Those who can't be arsed to join endless internet debates. I do read an article and if it's good I might drop a like and if it's bad I shrug my shoulders and move on.
Gaming is part of my personality. It is my hobby. It doesn't define my entire existence, but it is a big part of my life. Not too many years ago, gamers in Germany (like in most other countries), have been repeatedly attacked by mainstream media. Any school shooting has been somehow linked to Counterstrike. And then of course there were the other social stigmas. Nerds were smelly and had the social competence of the Berlin Wall.
But like I said, over the years that changed. Anyone can be a gamer now. And of course like any other subculture we make fun of each other. "PC Master Race", "Console Peasant", "Casual Gamer". They're the equivalent of, say, football clubs. Sure, there may be some who can't distinguish between friendly banter and pure insults. But if you break it down, they all love the same thing. Football.
So all of this happens. And then Gamergate. First off, I heavily dislike the way mainstream media (i.e. BBC) handled Zoe Quinn. There are clear indicators that she heavily mentally abused her ex during their relationship. But of course since the internet is a place where it's the easiest for idiots to scream the loudest and be heard, harassment happened. Honestly, nobody should be harassed and I'm more than disgusted that apparently this still needs to be said.
None of this actually mattered to me but then the articles dropped and that's when I decided to actively participate in this debate. Because certain writers and journalists pushed the same narrative, just with a few minor changes, that gamers are still the worst people walking on earth. I'm particularly talking about Leigh Alexander's article that has been spread by news outlets like there's no tomorrow. Over the last two or three decades gaming became something that anyone can enjoy and she, along with other writers, decided to release borderline hate-speech. When I first read that article I was sitting in my chair, depressed. Yes, gamers have been repeatedly treated like shit from mainstream media but she was a writer for a gaming website, even if it's "only for developers". That was supposed to be the kind of media that we could look up to! Which makes it even more ridiculous that recently people started to whitewash Leigh's article by calling it "pro-gamer." It wasn't. Its message wasn't "The Gamer is dead, long live the gamer!", it was "Gamers are dead. Deal with it, nerds."
And that's when I decided to get some people from Facepunch and have a Google Hangout where we talk about stuff that's happening in GamerGate. Somewhat 10 years ago when TV ripped my hobby apart, saying that video games cause real world violence I couldn't do that. I had to witness these accusations over and over again while not being able to voice my own opinion. And now I can and I decide to do so. I don't mean going on Twitter to harass people or generally create a toxic environment somewhere else on the internet. What I do mean is talking to people in a place where others are willing to listen to my arguments and where I am able to hear their point of view.
However, at this very moment it seems impossible. You can't have any discussion without people questioning your gender, sexual orientation, political leaning or views on minorities. Like I said, this is a result of simply dismissing legit concerns of your audience by practically slapping them in the face and telling them to fuck off.
Thank you for your time. I just want you to understand that there are many different nuances, especially to "pro-GG" (even if I consider myself neutral at this point). I would love to have you on an episode of "Facepunching GamerGate", that's what my podcast is called, and talk with you about it, but I understand if you don't have the time for it.
Best regards and a happy new year from Germany.
PS: I apologise for any grammatical or spelling errors, I'm writing this at 3 in the morning and as you might have noticed I'm not a native English speaker.[/QUOTE]
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Takes literally one click to install, so go get it
[url]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ggfirewall/?src=api[/url]
Looks like Kluwe is attacking Totalbiscuit at the moment.
[QUOTE=Fangz;46833060]Looks like Kluwe is attacking Totalbiscuit at the moment.[/QUOTE]
He sounds like a super angry high school jock right now.
#Stopgamergate2014 is now a failure in East Coast America
[QUOTE=Wii60;46833327][url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550477877784109056[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550481317646061569[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550480658087546881[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550480425995747328[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550477565048397824[/url]
bonus:
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550472090718339072[/url][/QUOTE]
What a spineless bully.
Gaskets blown once again, twice in a day.
Just.. how can anybody defend that? It's unfathomable. Best part is, they are basically forced to defend it otherwise they are massive hypocrites.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Ukej7iM.png[/t]
The replies are real by the way. [url]https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/550388830746845184[/url] They don't show up in his timeline but if you look at the repliers' timelines with replies you can see 'em.
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;46833220]#Stopgamergate2014 is now a failure in East Coast America[/QUOTE]
It has been a failure in Australia for 17 hours.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46833327][url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550477877784109056[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550481317646061569[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550480658087546881[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550480425995747328[/url]
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550477565048397824[/url]
bonus:
[url]http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/550472090718339072[/url][/QUOTE]
But Ben is a fat sack of crap. Why would he even step foot in a sporting goods store? Also I didn't know he had a family. I thought he was something that crawled out of a swamp made entirely out of shit.
[QUOTE=Xonax;46833678]It has been a failure in Australia for 17 hours.[/QUOTE]
really, its been a failure since it was started
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;46833611][t]http://i.imgur.com/Ukej7iM.png[/t]
The replies are real by the way. [url]https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/550388830746845184[/url] They don't show up in his timeline but if you look at the repliers' timelines with replies you can see 'em.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad white men and women are here to tell everyone what gaming, an activity for everyone, should be about.
[QUOTE=Ziron;46833760]I'm glad white men and women are here to tell everyone what gaming, an activity for everyone, should be about.[/QUOTE]
How mentally fucked up do you need to be to actually believe fun isn't a real thing, these people literally think joy is a buzzword that a "misogynist agenda" is pushing
Like holy fuck the amount of mental gymnastics to actually think all games must push to tell everyone to share your beliefs is insane.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46831047][IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/4ce6129d798182c698e873aea9a4f3bf.png[/IMG]
Enchance![/QUOTE]
As I recall you're supposed to be giving him boxes for picking a side, or is it only when it gets [i]you[/i] mad is it relevant to being actionable?
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