Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread.
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Because prisons are meant to help rehabilitate people into good hard working people. I don't think prison would be able to help these people.
[QUOTE=ZuXer;46838672][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TQf6Dh7.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just remember, kids, it's okay when they do it because they're not subhuman CIS harasser scum like us
This is a bit on the drama side but it's just too funny:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6T4gKNCQAEqDk7.png:large[/img]
([URL="https://twitter.com/TheHoodyGeek/status/550838286453702657"]source[/URL])
Something I've been ranting and raving on facepunch about for sometime now has been how we over all, treat people when they're our opponents.
Something you can see with modern culture as a whole right now in full view of everyone is what we're doing to ISIS. Now, before you guys scream at me bloody murder, hold on a second. I think ISIS are terrible terrorists doing what terrorists do and because of that, they should be stopped with full force. But what we're REALLY doing to ISIS that disturbs me is how we're radicalizing ourselves to combat them. Not only are they the enemy, they're evil incarnate. And sure, this trend is as old as advertising, we can see it with the germans and the russians, the chinese, etc, most cultures will demonize their enemy to make it easier to kill them.
But that was then. We don't live in that time period anymore, yet we still have people who fully believe that to fight an enemy, you have to turn them into your demons publicly so everyone knows what evil looks like. We don't need that anymore. We don't need it anymore. It turns normal people into radicals. And that same mindset of "Demonize your enemy" carries over to just about every cause a person would hold. Fault your enemy, find any and every reason to not only fight them, but to be the righteous victor. It's cowardice and fear. People who are too unsure of themselves and too scared to stand on their own two feet find a cause, and radicalize themselves to be the righteous one, propping themselves up with that righteousness and using that fear and cowardice to inflict damage on other people.
You can see that in Joana Ferric there. You can see that in a lot of people now a days, and sadly I don't think GG is immune to acting out like this.
I'm just sick of it. People in 2015 are more civil than ever before, and at the same time we're barbaric in many ways.
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[URL="https://archive.today/OuBHI"]That's just a stupid throwaway account troll.[/URL]
At least check if the posts are likely sincere before broadcasting them (though I suppose personal attacks are always relevant).
[QUOTE=Tamschi;46838774]This is a bit on the drama side but it's just too funny:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6T4gKNCQAEqDk7.png:large[/img]
([URL="https://twitter.com/TheHoodyGeek/status/550838286453702657"]source[/URL])[/QUOTE]
Well it's pretty sad that LWu's main concern during new year eve is gloating about gamergate being more interested in enjoying the holidays than obsessing over an hashtag
It's in line with her usual behaviour though so I'm not surprised
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46834314]Kotaku said a lot of things, hell gawker in general(their fitness blog making aGG posts). If racism suddenly became popular and good for click bait they would invite David Duke to write for them.[/QUOTE]
Anyone have that one gawker article that said pedophilia is perfectly natural and should be legal and they interviewed a pedo who has sex (raped) with a relative of his?
[editline]1st January 2015[/editline]
wait I should've googled first
[url]https://archive.today/OJbt3[/url]
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;46838894]Anyone have that one gawker article that said pedophilia is perfectly natural and should be legal and they interviewed a pedo who has sex (raped) with a relative of his?
[editline]1st January 2015[/editline]
wait I should've googled first
[url]https://archive.today/OJbt3[/url][/QUOTE]
ninja'd
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46838844]Well it's pretty sad that LWu's main concern during new year eve is gloating about gamergate being more interested in enjoying the holidays than obsessing over an hashtag
It's in line with her usual behaviour though so I'm not surprised[/QUOTE]
Well not quite, December has 31 days. Otherwise I agree though.
I just found this on Twitter: [url=https://medium.com/@socialunjustice/how-gamerghazis-campaign-of-hate-nearly-ruined-my-life-8783ffd94b86]How Gamerghazi’s Campaign of Hate Nearly Ruined My Life[/url][quote]Almost.
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Not really that much new info but it's a nice summary of what kind of terrible people hand out there (and the general mindset, [URL="https://archive.today/lApq9"]judging by that last archive with the upvote counts[/URL]).
Seems like gaming has caught up to the rest of society gotta be in that exclusive little entitled clique that crusades for all that is holy and right or else you are scum.
I dont feel very welcome in gaming my safe place is under attack and im a target because I am not the right gender race or sexuality and I dont want to conform to some insane PC narrative and bow down to self elected comittee of Whiteknights and SJWs.
I've just been reporting twitter accounts with legit abuse
Not that I've actually stopped to check if it's been doing anything...
[QUOTE=Tamschi;46839189]I just found this on Twitter: [url=https://medium.com/@socialunjustice/how-gamerghazis-campaign-of-hate-nearly-ruined-my-life-8783ffd94b86]How Gamerghazi’s Campaign of Hate Nearly Ruined My Life[/url]
Not really that much new info but it's a nice summary of what kind of terrible people hand out there (and the general mindset, [URL="https://archive.today/lApq9"]judging by that last archive with the upvote counts[/URL]).[/QUOTE]
I know that guy, I dig his posts on reddit.
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It's always so interesting how quickly these armchair activists who are so quick to decry racism and then turn around and hurl that vile "house nigger" term. This isn't the first time I've seen this sort of thing but it always rustles my jimmies so.
[QUOTE=truckilles;46839580]It's always so interesting how quickly these armchair activists who are so quick to decry racism and then turn around and hurl that vile "house nigger" term. This isn't the first time I've seen this sort of thing but it always rustles my jimmies so.[/QUOTE]
It's a throwaway account, ignore it. Don't stoop to their level.
[editline]2nd January 2015[/editline]
I was talking to somebody earlier and said "The drama boils down to the political issue of whether sexism is okay or not" and it kind of clicked in my head and I went "I think sexism, the reason why we talk about it is because game reviewers are reviewing games based on how "sexist" or "socially correct" games are, and as journalists, they shouldn't be doing that, which I believe is why we fight against them. I don't think we really thought of it that way."
I think the idea that "Gaming journalism doesn't matter because if you don't like it just don't read it." Is silly. These are the people getting early access, these are the people who let us decide whether to buy a game on launch, these companies we expect to be able to go to and trust their reviews, instead try to sway mass opinion on a subject, which inevitably will make shittier games, because why bother making good ones if people are gonna buy it anyway because you lied about it?
When I hear somebody say "Both sides are harassers and only care about feminists." I look at everybody here.. on reddit and then dig for the information I want to hear, I ask myself if I am doing the right thing. But the difference in what I hear, is true voices speaking out. When I look at others I see the constant use of political language designed to be vague and inviting to anybody, so there is no possible way to argue, a way that could make the very harassment they claim to be fighting against look like it's okay. It's the idea of acceptance of these facts, the reinstatement of the obvious that makes me feel better, and many others I am sure. It's a time of deceit, to display the truth so slightly altered to be a lie, yet still be truth. It's all about wordplay, and reinstating the facts is a way past this deceit. When I see us, I see those wishing to hear words in a different way, the "right" way. Just as they. It's a constant struggle that nobody can escape, our loathing for information we don't want to hear yet cannot stop ourselves from hearing is what I see. Some of you are here because you were forced here, those who want to protect what we love, what we believe is right. The others are here to push their truth, perhaps without realizing but do so nonetheless. So when I see them, and only see those who push their own, handcrafted truth, and I look at myself, what I know, what I have seen, what I have been apart of, I say, of course I am. And maybe, all of us do.
Just random thoughts.
SRHButts has been very silent on twitter since her ED Page went up, which reveals she has 40,000$ in taxes she has yet to pay to IRS and runs ffshrine.org, which has seen tons of copyright complaints.
[URL]https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Srhbutts[/URL]
Jesus Christ. What's with aGG people having problems with the IRS?
[QUOTE=Wii60;46839840]SRHButts has been very silent on twitter since her ED Page went up, which reveals she has 40,000$ in taxes she has yet to pay to IRS and runs ffshrine.org, which has seen tons of copyright complaints.
[URL]https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Srhbutts[/URL][/QUOTE]
Holy shit....that was quite a read. I don't even know if I feel ok having read that.
Only thing I can say is, fucking hypocrite.
finally
the one thing that unites GG and anti-gg
[url]http://i.imgur.com/ZZ24vZv.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Wii60;46840132]finally
the one thing that unites GG and anti-gg
[url]http://i.imgur.com/ZZ24vZv.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm confused, what does this mean?
That both pro and anti think Kuchera is a dumbass? I thought that was like neuton's laws. An understood fact of life.
Arthur chu needs to learn to shut up
[URL]https://archive.today/vloQ7[/URL]
[editline]2nd January 2015[/editline]
TFYC porn charity up and already hit goal
[URL]https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-tfyc-and-the-porn-charity-live-show[/URL]
It's good to know that porn will always be the answer.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46840239]Arthur chu needs to learn to shut up
[URL]https://archive.today/vloQ7[/URL]
[editline]2nd January 2015[/editline]
I think 15mins after reading that, I think he's talking about assistant suicide and in those cases of terminal illness it's debatable, but then I reread it and digress.
I just need to get this off my chest...
[QUOTE]The fact is, as we've been trying to explain (but admittedly, it can be difficult to explain), "anti-GamerGate" is not a thing that exists as a movement. There's GamerGate, and then there's everyone who is not GamerGate.[/QUOTE]
Of course you don't want to be a movement. Because that makes you supposedly vulnerable to the same criticism that you are imposing on a movement right now. I'm sick of this "Just because we're contrarian doesn't mean we're a movement" argument.
[QUOTE]People who are not GamerGate include people like Chris Klewe, but they also include what GG wants to call the "third party trolls." They're not actually "third party" because there's only one "party" in this situation.[/QUOTE]
That's an interesting statement. So if "third party trolls" are not part of Gamergate, then why blame Gamergate for it? Also, if you honestly think there's only "one party" in this mess then your view is very, very limited.
[QUOTE]I don't identify with those people or accept them or try to excuse them because "at least they're anti-GG." There's a bunch of people in chan culture who think GamerGate are a bunch of "moralfags." I don't support them, I wholeheartedly denounce them. There are probably a lot of Red Pill fuckwits who want this neckbearded beta male drama to stay out of their culture. I don't identify with or support those people.[/QUOTE]
That's great, you know. Maybe it would also be great if you didn't decide for others who they support or identify with as well.
[QUOTE]The difference is that GamerGate feels they need to support anyone who is pro-GG, from Hotwheels to Roosh V to Jack Thompson, because "what they do with their own lives is none of our business, they're on our team and we support their beliefs about games journalism." We don't have any such team mentality. Some guy threatens TB or tells him to kill himself, do I support that guy because "at least he's anti-GG?" Fuck no, he's a little shit who needs an ass whupping, he's not my friend, I don't support his beliefs about anything whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck is Gamergate? Did somebody ever meet him or her? Or is it maybe that you're treating various individuals as one person because it makes it easier for you to criticise them and falsely hold them accountable for something they didn't even do in the first place? Could it possibly be that there are people in Gamergate who don't like Milo because he's writing transphobic and bigoted articles? Is Gamergate supporting everything that's written on Breitbart or was it only interested in the GameJournoPro leaks and frankly doesn't give a fuck about that website?
Seriously, somebody needs to get a hold of this GamerGate guy and ask all these tough questions. I NEED ANSWERS.
[QUOTE=uber.;46840650]I just need to get this off my chest...
Of course you don't want to be a movement. Because that makes you supposedly vulnerable to the same criticism that you are imposing on a movement right now. I'm sick of this "Just because we're contrarian doesn't mean we're a movement" argument.
That's an interesting statement. So if "third party trolls" are not part of Gamergate, then why blame Gamergate for it? Also, if you honestly think there's only "one party" in this mess then your view is very, very limited.
That's great, you know. Maybe it would also be great if you didn't decide for others who they support or identify with as well.
Who the fuck is Gamergate? Did somebody ever meet him or her? Or is it maybe that you're treating various individuals as one person because it makes it easier for you to criticise them and falsely hold them accountable for something they didn't even do in the first place? Could it possibly be that there are people in Gamergate who don't like Milo because he's writing transphobic and bigoted articles? Is Gamergate supporting everything that's written on Breitbart or was it only interested in the GameJournoPro leaks and frankly doesn't give a fuck about that website?
Seriously, somebody needs to get a hold of this GamerGate guy and ask all these tough questions. I NEED ANSWERS.[/QUOTE]
Funny how he says that the actions of another person don't mean he supports them, then proceeds to label everyone under gamergate.
Oh the fucking hypocrisy. "It applies to us, not you" and vice versa.
[QUOTE=Solo Wing;46840767]Funny how he says that the actions of another person don't mean he supports them, then proceeds to label everyone under gamergate.
Oh the fucking hypocrisy. "It applies to us, not you" and vice versa.[/QUOTE]
I lost it at "We don't have any such team mentality".
My favourite part is this:
[quote]The difference is that GamerGate feels they need to support anyone who is pro-GG, from Hotwheels to Roosh V to Jack Thompson, because "what they do with their own lives is none of our business, they're on our team and we support their beliefs about games journalism." We don't have any such team mentality. Some guy threatens TB or tells him to kill himself, do I support that guy because "at least he's anti-GG?" Fuck no, he's a little shit who needs an ass whupping, he's not my friend, I don't support his beliefs about anything whatsoever.[/quote]
Yeah, because it's not like KoP and IA eventually left because their stupid offensive shit got too much for us to ignore, and it's [I]definitely[/I] not like anti-GG continues to support confirmed abusers, harassers and Neo-Nazis. I swear, 99% of the time these anti-GG articles are writing about themselves but just swapping the names around.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46841255]My favourite part is this:
Yeah, because it's not like KoP and IA eventually left because their stupid offensive shit got too much for us to ignore, and it's [I]definitely[/I] not like anti-GG continues to support confirmed abusers, harassers and Neo-Nazis. I swear, 99% of the time these anti-GG articles are writing about themselves but just swapping the names around.[/QUOTE]
You mean kinda like circle jerking? :v:
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