Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

that wacky ben kuchera has some major skeletons in his closet[URL="https://archive.today/Vmowh#selection-3251.0-3259.44"] https://archive.today/Vmowh#selection-3251.0-3259.44[/URL] more: [URL]http://pastebin.com/SRhC5stD[/URL] things that he said include: [url]https://archive.today/6i8CO#selection-1259.10-1263.35[/url] [url]https://archive.today/0X4Bf#selection-1433.6-1433.88[/url] [url]https://archive.today/cJ4Ne#selection-2083.1-2083.66[/url] [url]https://archive.today/0gBdI#selection-3625.0-3641.14[/url]

It kinda just reinforces that Ben is a moron.

also @eclipso on twitter swatted devi ever results unknown so far, expect it to be blamed on gg tho despite eclipso himself saying hes not part of gg

[QUOTE=Wii60;46846789]also @eclipso on twitter swatted devi ever results unknown so far, expect it to be blamed on gg tho despite eclipso himself saying hes not part of gg[/QUOTE] She screencapped the OP of an 8chan thread that pretty much said "Devi has been swatted by @eclipso" and then claimed 8chan is responsible.

[url]https://www.change.org/p/amazon-com-get-google-and-amazon-to-stop-advertising-on-gawker-media?just_created=true[/url] needs more signatures.

proof is slowly rising that srhbutts has pedophillia [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/K6y87Pb.png[/IMG] [URL]http://archive.today/6lzXh[/URL] the funniest part? a bunch of anti-gg are largely supporting srhbutts due to the ED article, some going as far as adding butts their twitter name

[QUOTE=Wii60;46846754]that wacky ben kuchera has some major skeletons in his closet[URL="https://archive.today/Vmowh#selection-3251.0-3259.44"] https://archive.today/Vmowh#selection-3251.0-3259.44[/URL] more: [URL]http://pastebin.com/SRhC5stD[/URL] things that he said include: [url]https://archive.today/6i8CO#selection-1259.10-1263.35[/url] [url]https://archive.today/0X4Bf#selection-1433.6-1433.88[/url] [url]https://archive.today/cJ4Ne#selection-2083.1-2083.66[/url] [url]https://archive.today/0gBdI#selection-3625.0-3641.14[/url][/QUOTE] To be honest, some of those are really pushing it. I mean, he was giving the Holocaust example you linked as a reason why being edgy is stupid, and he only used the n-word whilst describing that another guy was racist for using it (the same way that a lot of Facepunch people do). Not to mention that all of this happened 7 years ago. I hate to say it, but people change in that time, and by digging up this kind of dirt on people we're being pretty petty, honestly. [editline]3rd January 2015[/editline] The post above me though, now [I]that[/I] is a slightly more major revelation. Whether or not it is important depends on a couple of things, namely whether or not she has ever acted on her urges, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if it were proved that Sarah was a paedophile.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46846861]proof is slowly rising that srhbutts has pedophillia [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/K6y87Pb.png[/IMG] [URL]http://archive.today/6lzXh[/URL] the funniest part? a bunch of anti-gg are largely supporting srhbutts due to the ED article, some going as far as adding butts their twitter name[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ AntiGG really is a collection of misfits and losers from the "old" internet, isn't it?

from the wonderful ffshrine IRC [url]http://pastebin.ca/raw/377891[/url] | ctrl + f "sarah" and "happy" if anybody could figure WTF is going on with that chat i'm sure it would be incredibly useful. Edit: [url=https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Srhbutts_ffshrine_chatlogs]more chatlog insanity[/url]

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46847821]Ryulong sentence lowered from indefinite to the end of the Arbitration case. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:General_sanctions/Gamergate&diff=next&oldid=640738926[/url] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&diff=next&oldid=640774597[/url][/QUOTE] Ryulong has been everything but polite in the GamerGate article. Fucking retards reducing his ban... Wikipedia will never get better with people like him laying fucking siege to anyone with an opinion.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;46847944]Ryulong has been everything but polite in the GamerGate article. Fucking retards reducing his ban... Wikipedia will never get better with people like him laying fucking siege to anyone with an opinion.[/QUOTE] They merely said more polite than most. I expect that's less representative of him and more of the others.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46848227]They merely said more polite than most. I expect that's less representative of him and more of the others.[/QUOTE] You can still be extremely toxic while being polite and still follow the rules, it's very easy. For example, request banning of some 20+ editors for having a different opinion - not against the rules, not considered impolite. If anything, this situation on wikipedia is pushing the failsafes and systems it's created to their absolute limit. As with many communities, theres always that one toxic individual who toes the line on the rules and is virtually un-bannable until an admin goes "No, this is my decision now, get out." Usually, and from personal experience, they always come back, either through one of their friends, virtually never through another account. They love their reputation and will do anything to be the "Don't mess with me because I can do anything I want" mentality guy. Unfortunately Wikipedia's failsafe to that matter, which is arbitration, fails in preventing editors from taking this stance in editing. The POV pushing is hardcore and it's difficult to call people out for it. There are a lot of essay's on it that Wikipedia editors have made - unfortunately, this is just what happens when you give free reign to any dolt or student on the internet to edit a "professional" encyclopedia. Although what they say is "polite" - it's all political mumbo-jumbo for "I can say whatever I want and you can't stop me because I am, technically not breaking the rules!" Also, btw. Kotakuinaction is being upvote brigaded on some things, which is why you saw "Let's leave for 8chan" posts on the front page. [editline]a[/editline] In cases like these, where the community is 50/50 bolted on something and [I]everyone[/I] is pov pushing, they usually just delete the article and say "Let's wait for [I]real [/I]experts to say something" - but since community, mostly biased admins FROM BOTH SIDES are getting involved and saying "Reliable sources ARE experts!" / "No they aren't!" It's not happening, and it's stupid. The article, in its current state, looks like it's fighting itself in what it's trying to tell you, meaning it's been a lot better then it was awhile ago. Still cringeworthy to read and biased towards "IT'S HARRASMENT" though - I still have no fucking clue how people STILL think it's about that, when there has been zero examples but random twitter, throwaway accounts using it. It's like nobody researched this and is just reacting to hearsay.

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46848883]It's like nobody researched this and is just reacting to hearsay.[/QUOTE] well it makes sense that the wiki article is a mess, then, since this is what literally all of their "reliable sources" did

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46849154]well it makes sense that the wiki article is a mess, then, since this is what literally all of their "reliable sources" did[/QUOTE] FYI there "reliable sources" aren't totally the "reliable sources" that we think of - it's all re-hash of tech blog stuff from their sites. It's just that they thought it would be a provoking story to put on air, thinking that the tech blog guys did their research. That's my theory, anyways. And the fact they use blogs as legitimate accurate reporting in Wikipedia at all, even when not just rehashed for a larger audience, is disgusting that they can get away with that. There is a reason they are blogs, and why blogs are almost never taken seriously!

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46846869] The post above me though, now [I]that[/I] is a slightly more major revelation. Whether or not it is important depends on a couple of things, namely whether or not she has ever acted on her urges, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if it were proved that Sarah was a paedophile.[/QUOTE] well she did distribute CP from Foldable human also: [url]https://vid.me/y6ag[/url]

freebsdgirl linked to facebook gamergate groups with peoples info on them. She literally doxxed hundreds of people, and people are defending her by saying it's "public info". amb didn't agree with what she did. [url]https://twitter.com/freebsdgirl/status/551553813765554176[/url] (scroll up to the top)

really stretching it there.

[QUOTE=Zet;46851467]freebsdgirl linked to facebook gamergate groups with peoples info on them. She literally doxxed hundreds of people, and people are defending her by saying it's "public info". amb didn't agree with what she did. [url]https://twitter.com/freebsdgirl/status/551553813765554176[/url] (scroll up to the top)[/QUOTE] Just posting someone's name isn't doxxing. Stop using that word so freely, it's losing it's meaning. The context of this is very ugly though, and it's obvious that her intentions were malicious. (Read this from bottom on up) [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8U8WhZB.png[/IMG] She pretty much just said that all these facebook groups are blacklists (since for the most part they are all real names of people, unlike aliases on twitter)

It's public info, there's no questioning it - by joining that group they are publicly saying as themselves on Facebook that they support it, so whatever information they have on it is public since anybody could have looked it up. Same things goes for them too, though. It's malicious but people should be aware of that risk when they put their real name beside it. Still incredibly mean, and if anybody actually doesn't let somebody have a job for having that opinion is going to have a bad time.

so people accuse her of making a blacklist and in retaliation she suggests people should actually blacklist, nice 1

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46851600]so people accuse her of making a blacklist and in retaliation she suggests people should actually blacklist, nice 1[/QUOTE] Your avatar is a perfect summary of what its like "discussing" things with BSD. :v:

Is srhbutts a really good troll or legitimatly that crazy its hard to tell. The games journalists think they won,they will eventually all burn for the situstion they created .Once the clusterfuck has died down and both sides realise how much they lost people will realise who's to blame. I look forward to the day both sides sit down and taller the issues that actually exist instead of made up boogeymen that serve no purpose other than to line someone's pockets and take attention away from actual wrongdoing.

They're probably a really good troll. aGG swooped in to defend her when it was found out that she's a pedo when aGG has been condemning GG and 8chan for having CP on their site.

Butts has to much of a history to be a troll.

I think we should treat them as a troll apart from agg , we don't be lumped in with trolls can't do the same to them. [editline]3rd January 2015[/editline] Appeal to moderates solve actual issues repeat,take the power away from frothing psychos and self serving SJWs everyone leaves happier.

"It's still doxx even if it's public information" according to /u/cykosis on ghazi. (edit) I'm pretty sure this is against the TOS of Reddit, these people could be (if the admins could ever be believed to act in good faith or fairly) skirting with getting shadowbanned or having gamerghazi shut down.

namefagging is doxxing, if you can get a name you can get an address and more. If the name is public information already associated with the handle, then the handle holds power that is volatile. Anyway bye bye to the dishonesty buster guy [url]http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sjmk7n[/url]

The worst hate group why even push that anymore like I don't understand how anybody could think we / others are specifically targeting females, when in reality it was just a feminist acting like a douchebag, and feminists defended her, so we hate females? It's insane. I see them doing more hate then anybody else.

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46852633]The worst hate group why even push that anymore like I don't understand how anybody could think we / others are specifically targeting females, when in reality it was just a feminist acting like a douchebag, and feminists defended her, so we hate females? It's insane. I see them doing more hate then anybody else.[/QUOTE] read it again, they're pro-gg talking about basically being harassed off the internet by a-gg, and saying that gg is utter garbage at being a hate movement

the woman who spilled coffee and got a million bucks, a character assassination that was in part to push tort reform.