Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;45920593]I genuinly think Tim is the kind of guy who just wants to his own little corner so he can do his own thing in peace. And I wouldn't be surprised if the reason he wants this thing to blow over is so he can go back to talking to people freely without the risk of severing ties because he said the wrong thing. Tbh I wouldnt to be in his position.[/QUOTE] to be honest the guy runs a company that asked for crowd funding twice for a game before it was announced that they paid elijah wood to VA a character for said game. this is totally fine.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_Z5YTop7g&list=UUVt7ujK-9TT9KByzL9g_2QQ[/url] its here

dear god 4chan cant even load properly anymore

To think, this all started because some chick whored herself out to 5 people.

[QUOTE=Untouch;45920609][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_Z5YTop7g&list=UUVt7ujK-9TT9KByzL9g_2QQ[/url] its here[/QUOTE] Is it possible for someone to rehost it on a different website? Youtube for whatever reason has been shitting itself here for the past few days and I can only watch up to around 3:30 when it lets me.

[QUOTE=Pie_Tony;45920745]Is it possible for someone to rehost it on a different website? Youtube for whatever reason has been shitting itself here for the past few days and I can only watch up to around 3:30 when it lets me.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.clipconverter.cc/[/url] use the youtube link download a copy

[QUOTE=Wii60;45920715]dear god 4chan cant even load properly anymore[/QUOTE] even 4chan can't handle all this happening

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/j40BhNk.jpg[/IMG] oh hi patrick keplek

[QUOTE=Untouch;45920609][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_Z5YTop7g&list=UUVt7ujK-9TT9KByzL9g_2QQ[/url] its here[/QUOTE] Jesus H. Christ, and I thought the stream blew the lid off of things before. Some serious shit is gonna go down, as soon as enough people take notice of this.

ok what I said before how IGF and IF aren't connected I take back didn't know the indiecade was involved in the jury and I didn't know the system (which conveniently doesn't stop conflict of interests) was developed by an IF guy everything anyone involved so far has been falsified , they're going to need to try hard to come up with a retort

[QUOTE=Untouch;45920609][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_Z5YTop7g&list=UUVt7ujK-9TT9KByzL9g_2QQ[/url] its here[/QUOTE] It's beautiful.

[QUOTE=Wii60;45920441]if i get shadowbanned off reddit i dont care cuz i was planning to get a new username anyway[/QUOTE] You could just stop using reddit. [QUOTE=warneccruid;45920398] [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2fr0uj/evidence_of_corruption_in_the_reddit_admin_staff/[/url] Front Page already[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ayamj86.png[/IMG] I don't even know..

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45920822] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ayamj86.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] This is hilarious because all of those subreddits aren't even considered very good feminist subreddits.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45920822] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ayamj86.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Pretty sure this a troll account. They commented on [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1423143"]this [/URL]too.

[URL]http://igf.com/2014/09/igf_statement_re_judging_proce.html[/URL] [QUOTE]You may have recently seen some odd claims of collusion between independent developers/funders & both the Independent Games Festival and Indiecade, most recently with untrue allegations that select independent developers have worked to 'fix' both award events. The IGF (and its parent company, which has looked into these claims) would like to assure all entrants and gamers that we take the idea of conflict of interest seriously in selecting our judging and jurying pools. Worries about the Independent Games Festival are nothing new (thanks to its perceived 'star-making' qualities), but for those who are unaware, we'll explain again how the process works. The explanation below is the process we've had in place since 2011, and, in the interest of transparency, it will be officially added to our FAQ in the coming days: Each year, we invite hundreds of game developers both big and small, educators, critics and press to be the initial IGF 'large' judging pool. (Think of the judges as an Oscars-style cross-section of the game community.) If any individual was directly involved in the creation of any game entered in the festival that year, they recuse themselves from judging the festival. As explained in this 2014 blog post, any interested party that works in the games industry can request an invitation to be a judge. If you are selected, you'll receive an email from us when our judging process has begun. All submitted games are assigned to a random set of judges (nearly 375) from our 'large' judging pool. It's possible to see how the random assigning works, and third parties have verified that it's truly random - based on the game platforms the judge owns. Judges are given around 4-6 weeks to play and recommend any game they believe should be a finalist in any category. Over time, games are randomly assigned to even more judges, to ensure a breadth of opinion. Judges can then communicate with one another to recommend games, schedule multiplayer sessions, and raise any technical issues directly with a game's developer, as well as debate the positives and negatives of specific titles. There is plenty of positive (and negative) debate on specific titles. After judges finish recommending their assigned games, they are free to explore the rest of the entered games, and vote for any additional game they believe deserves a recommendation. At the end of the 'large' judging period, we then enter a jurying phase. There's is a different jury for each award, made up of subject matter experts - except the Audience Award, which has public votes. Here, for example, are all members that made up 2012's juries. They are given access to the total number of recommendations each game received for their particular category. They also receive another metric that they look at: a percentage that represents how many recommendations each game got from assigned judges. This helps to bring less well-known titles to light and guards against judges 'swarming' games they might have heard of. Each jury, made up of 7-15 members, takes another 4-6 weeks to play and discuss the games in private. At the end of this discussion, each individual juror puts forward their list of nominations for the specific award they are judging - as many or as few as they like (often called 'approval voting'). These nominations may include the games that received many recommendations from the judges, but often includes titles with less recommendations as well. (Think of the juries as film festival panels, such as the Cannes Palme D'Or). The jury nominations are then tallied, and the games which received the most nominations are then decided as the finalists and honorable mentions. At that point, each individual IGF jury then takes an additional few weeks to discuss those finalists, and casts another vote on which games they believe should be the winner in each category. Those votes are tallied by hand, and the game that received the most votes is declared the winner at the IGF Awards every March. Our biggest issue tends to be the growing number of entries, something we hope our new and more open judge recruitment will help alleviate. Thanks, as always, to the larger community - the hundreds or even thousands - involved for helping us make the awards happen.[/QUOTE] i dont think they saw the evidence video yet

[quote]Those votes are tallied by hand[/quote] Yeah, cause nothing could go wrong there, I mean it's not like people who are in key positions have anything to gain by lying or miscounting...oh...wait...

[quote]If any individual was directly involved in the creation of any game entered in the festival that year, they recuse themselves from judging the festival.[/quote] wrong, unenforced [quote]All submitted games are assigned to a random set of judges (nearly 375) from our 'large' judging pool.[/quote] anyone can vote for anything, for some reason i don't know

Indie Fund really rubs me the wrong way. Indie games mean they're developed and published by themselves, but IF is effectively a publisher, so you're no longer indie. There really needs to be a new classification between indie and AAA. These people clearly fill this niche. All the corruption issues aside.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45921018]Indie Fund really rubs me the wrong way. Indie games mean they're developed and published by themselves, but IF is effectively a publisher, so you're no longer indie. There really needs to be a new classification between indie and AAA. These people clearly fill this niche. All the corruption issues aside.[/QUOTE] A or AA games, ofc

[quote]If any individual was directly involved in the creation of any game entered in the festival that year, they recuse themselves from judging the festival.[/quote] An honor system. Who would ever lie? They're proving what the evidence video said.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45921018]There really needs to be a new classification between indie and AAA. These people clearly fill this niche. All the corruption issues aside.[/QUOTE]Minor league.

[QUOTE=Wii60;45920948] i dont think they saw the evidence video yet[/QUOTE] I liked the part where they found out that some of their judges had serious connections with the games they were judging, so they dismissed them and got different, unbiased judges in. Filed under "Things that never happened" Like seriously "recuse themselves?" if you give someone the option of getting big bux $$$ or not, they'll most likely take it and run the risk of being caught rather than 'recuse themselves' Whatever happened to enforcing your own damn rules.

Can someone tell me what zoe is trying to say on her twitter when she makes vines of her tapping tweets? I seriously dont get it.

[QUOTE=Sally;45921073]Can someone tell me what zoe is trying to say on her twitter when she makes vines of her tapping tweets? I seriously dont get it.[/QUOTE] I think blocking people?? She's going insane and this doesn't even involve her anymore.

i was thinkin i should make a silly video edit of the hobo with the shotgun flamethrower scene with 4chan manning the flamethrower good idea y/n

[QUOTE=Wii60;45921209]i was thinkin i should make a silly video edit of the hobo with the shotgun flamethrower scene with 4chan manning the flamethrower good idea y/n[/QUOTE] go for it

[QUOTE=Wii60;45921209]i was thinkin i should make a silly video edit of the hobo with the shotgun flamethrower scene with 4chan manning the flamethrower good idea y/n[/QUOTE] Have you already accidentally done it?

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45921235]Have you already accidentally done it?[/QUOTE] no its still in [URL="http://i.imgur.com/Jopweh8.png"]early wip stages[/URL] i can't misclick upload it to youtube either

is there actually any chance of legal consequences for Phil Fish? are the "lawyers" that were contacted real lawyers or internet lawyers? I ask because jesus h christ if even a fraction of this stuff is true this is ludicrous

[QUOTE=Turnips5;45921269]is there actually any chance of legal consequences for Phil Fish? are the "lawyers" that were contacted real lawyers or internet lawyers? I ask because jesus h christ if even a fraction of this stuff is true this is ludicrous[/QUOTE] real lawyers. this has all been investigated thoroughly, lawyers contacted, which led to the report filed with the fbi, all even before the video was made and bombshell dropped.