Corruption in gaming journalism discussion and update thread. - General

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aCyCwEj62g&feature=youtu.be&t=1m39s[/URL] she posted her phone number smack dab on the anita parody video Yea it's definitely 100% fake and part of the joke she has. [QUOTE=Wootman;45851440]That video isn't good tho if people start to white knight her because its gonna make us look like big ass hypocrites. What is the point of that video jesus.[/QUOTE] i think that was the point. opposite day

[QUOTE=Wii60;45851432][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IUdgJLc.png[/IMG] spoony no[/QUOTE] I really think he's siding with SJWs because of that breakdown he had on twitter a while ago. You know the one where he said he'd...chain someone to a radiator and rape them. [img_thumb]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/Edgeomatic/SpoonyTweet.jpg[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45851181]The queen cannot mate alone, you say? [img]http://www.gilith.com/chess/coaching/short-mates/fools-mate.png[/img][/QUOTE] that still relies on the enemy placing his pawns like an absolute idiot :v:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/hy2Bn1n.png[/img] Seems microsoft is on our side.

this may or may not be relevant, but it's worth a look into: [url]http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/[/url] edit: the website is mainly right-winged, so be careful with the wording in the article

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/44JpOM1.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Xonax;45851531][img]http://i.imgur.com/hy2Bn1n.png[/img] Seems microsoft is on our side.[/QUOTE] Microsoft actually has a competent PR firm that doesn't call its audience pieces of shit, who knew?

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45851181]The queen cannot mate alone, you say? [img]http://www.gilith.com/chess/coaching/short-mates/fools-mate.png[/img][/QUOTE] You need a king present to (check)mate

[QUOTE=Wii60;45850702] [url]http://i.imgur.com/Fayadnb.png[/url][/QUOTE] Holy fuck that conversation on the left is embarrassing as fuck for Brendan. How the hell can you professionally be a writer and get grammar that wrong? Especially when you're getting it wrong when trying to correct someone.

[QUOTE=Wootman;45851403]People on 4chan are saying its satire and it kinda seems like it tbh. Just ignore it.[/QUOTE] Apparently they don't anymore.

[QUOTE=Xonax;45851702]Apparently they don't anymore.[/QUOTE] Not everyone got the message yet and people are waking up in the US. just give it a day and people will be smart enough.

[QUOTE=kapin_krunch;45851691]Holy fuck that conversation on the left is embarrassing as fuck for Brendan. How the hell can you professionally be a writer and get grammar that wrong? Especially when you're getting it wrong when trying to correct someone.[/QUOTE] And not only that, but correcting completely correct grammar with incorrect grammar.

I'm really happy that Adam Baldwin is on the rational side. I was about to be really sad when I heard he got caught up in the fray. On a related note what the fuck is Joss Whedon doing

[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;45852279]I'm really happy that Adam Baldwin is on the rational side. I was about to be really sad when I heard he got caught up in the fray. On a related note what the fuck is Joss Whedon doing[/QUOTE] Same thing as Wil Wheaton, hearing the pro zoe camp cry "MISOGYNY" and assuming that that is what it is all about, when thats the last thing it's about.

You should try sending them my twitlong & the Maya Felix call out. A few celebs on twitter bumped into my twitlong and it changed their mind on things. Especially if they were a.) on the fence or b.) joining the pro-Zoe camp but didn't know what was going. I'm sure the Maya Felix call out would help them change their mind too, since having two abusers working closely together in the industry is more damning than one lone abuser.

[QUOTE=Reimu;45852382]You should try sending them my twitlong & the Maya Felix call out. A few celebs on twitter bumped into my twitlong and it changed their mind on things. Especially if they were a.) on the fence or b.) joining the pro-Zoe camp but didn't know what was going. I'm sure the Maya Felix call out would help them change their mind too, since having two abusers working closely together in the industry is more damning than one lone abuser.[/QUOTE] Do you think Tim Schafer and Warren Spector are still redeemable? I can only hope they only support this shit because they don't know about the whole thing.

[QUOTE=_Axel;45852458]Do you think Tim Schafer and Warren Spector are still redeemable? I can only hope they only support this shit because they don't know about the whole thing.[/QUOTE] It doesn't hurt to try sending both their way. I doubt they'll give up on Anita (tbqh, I like Anita too to begin with) but I know it helped Neil Cicierega and slowbeef look at things from a different angle. Granted, beef has mostly just been keeping out of things, but still: I highly recommend sending them out and seeing what happens. [editline]31st August 2014[/editline] And if all else fails, just signal boost the Maya Kramer call out to all your followers. I have like 750+ people on tumblr and I've been messaging my followers all morning asking them if they would mind signal boosting it. Most people have no idea who Maya Felix Kramer is, and many people in SJ (outside of gaming) will see "outed as an abuser" and [i]immediately[/i] take your side, because of the emphasis on giving abuse survivors the benefit of the doubt. So, if you have tumblr followers, signal boost the post as well so we can get Maya Felix Kramer's history with abuse as the first thing that comes up on google (currently it's #2).

[QUOTE=warneccruid;45851395]Ok what the fuck is happening [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhV4BDjP0-M[/media][/QUOTE] I just listened to it, here's what I took away from it: The first part about getting harassed and suddenly getting a ton of threats: I have no idea. I did notice something but it could mean a whole bunch of different things. (I have a hunch that it's at least exaggerated.) Her gaming channel definitely is empty though. Once she starts hating about stuff: I'm 95% sure that's sincere. I'm 99% sure she's actually very disappointed about the white-knighting and shit-flinging. The end where she says she's going to stop making videos about the issue and to unfollow her: [I]Probably[/I] honest. Oh, and the part where she tells people to cut off their dicks? I doubt she means it literally or that harshly, but she means it :v: (Disclaimer: Take this with a pile of salt. I'm not exactly a people-person and while I think I'm a good listener I have been wrong before, and quite badly so. I'm writing about a personal impression here, and I don't even have a proper baseline.)

[QUOTE=Reimu;45852509]It doesn't hurt to try sending both their way. I doubt they'll give up on Anita (tbqh, I like Anita too to begin with) but I know it helped Neil Cicierega and slowbeef look at things from a different angle. Granted, beef has mostly just been keeping out of things, but still: I highly recommend sending them out and seeing what happens. [editline]31st August 2014[/editline] And if all else fails, just signal boost the Maya Kramer call out to all your followers. I have like 750+ people on tumblr and I've been messaging my followers all morning asking them if they would mind signal boosting it. Most people have no idea who Maya Felix Kramer is, and many people in SJ (outside of gaming) will see "outed as an abuser" and [i]immediately[/i] take your side, because of the emphasis on giving abuse survivors the benefit of the doubt. So, if you have tumblr followers, signal boost the post as well so we can get Maya Felix Kramer's history with abuse as the first thing that comes up on google (currently it's #2).[/QUOTE] Well, I have exactly one follower on twitter, so I guess I'll consider showing it to WS rather than signal boost. I'm kind of afraid of fucking things up, though. I'm new to this twitter thing and the 140 character limit really hinders attempts at having constructive conversations. Do people usually read Twitlongers or do they just ignore them? [editline]31st August 2014[/editline] Also I guess sending TB's and Missangerist's twitlongers as well would be a good idea?

[QUOTE=Reimu;45852509][...] So, if you have tumblr followers, signal boost the post as well so we can get Maya Felix Kramer's history with abuse as the first thing that comes up on google (currently it's #2).[/QUOTE] That's just because Google's bubbling you because you're actively engaged in activism. It's on position 5-6 for me though. (Technically it's possible for her to censor Google in the EU, but I don't know if she's/they're that fast. The stuff that shows up is a screenshot posted to Know Your Meme.) [editline]31st August 2014[/editline] DuckDuckGo has it once as #7, that's likely more accurate.

Anyone from Reddit can you upvote this please. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2f2c32/quinnspiracy_theory_white_castles_and_ivory_towers/[/url]

Ah okay, that makes sense. I'm hoping my tumblr call out balloons out and we can use it to get the pastebin pushed up in the indexing. Seeing tumblr dislike Maya Felix would be a huge slap in the face to them, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that people see it and share it. So far we're up to 33 notes. The highest post about Maya Felix on tumblr is a 72 note post about "cuties killing video games," and the rapid reblogs for the call out have already outranked it in the tumblr search index for cuties killing video games. Also, I got one friend who runs a hugely popular SJ blog to share it (possibly another). They've even been on TiA a few times. So once they reblog, I'm hoping it will balloon out.

[QUOTE=Reimu;45852829]Ah okay, that makes sense. I'm hoping my tumblr call out balloons out and we can use it to get the pastebin pushed up in the indexing. Seeing tumblr dislike Maya Felix would be a huge slap in the face to them, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that people see it and share it. So far we're up to 33 notes. The highest post about Maya Felix on tumblr is a 72 note post about "cuties killing video games," and the rapid reblogs for the call out have already outranked it in the tumblr search index for cuties killing video games. Also, I got one friend who runs a hugely popular SJ blog to share it (possibly another). They've even been on TiA a few times. So once they reblog, I'm hoping it will balloon out.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.thefilterbubble.com/"]I actually bought a book about this filter bubble stuff.[/URL] It's pretty short but relatively informative. Only get it if you're really interested into finding out what it's about I suppose since you can learn about it more or less just as well online. Once you know it exists that is. The basic problem is that confirmation bias is something people actually [I]like[/I] on some level, and as such it's been included in a lot of media. Tumblr communities and Twitter are just some of the more blatant examples, since almost every search engine does it too. This means that almost everyone is more protected from opposing view points than is healthy.

[QUOTE=warneccruid;45852728]Anyone from Reddit can you upvote this please. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2f2c32/quinnspiracy_theory_white_castles_and_ivory_towers/[/url][/QUOTE] I didn't exactly like this guy's tone throughout all of his videos, overly aggressive, directly attacking and a bit childish sometimes. He does however, explain what the fuck is going on. Also [t]http://i.imgur.com/7q1ECA8.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Reimu;45852829][...] and the rapid reblogs for the call out have already outranked it in the tumblr search index for cuties killing video games. [...][/QUOTE] That's another bubble. It's the third of three posts that are shown when I search it without being logged though.

[QUOTE=Tamschi;45852939][URL="http://www.thefilterbubble.com/"]I actually bought a book about this filter bubble stuff.[/URL] It's pretty short but relatively informative. Only get it if you're really interested into finding out what it's about I suppose since you can learn about it more or less just as well online. Once you know it exists that is. The basic problem is that confirmation bias is something people actually [I]like[/I] on some level, and as such it's been included in a lot of media. Tumblr communities and Twitter are just some of the more blatant examples, since almost every search engine does it too. This means that almost everyone is more protected from opposing view points than is healthy.[/QUOTE] Hmm, I've noticed this too. I think that's why boosting these call out posts into the tumblr SJ community is important and will ultimately help topple people like ZQ and Maya Felix. If your first impression on Maya Felix is a reblog on tumblr from a highly knowledged social justice/feminist poster, and the title of that post is "Maya Felix is an abuser!" then you're going to have a [b]LOT[/b] of people siding with the survivor. It's the confirmation bias alone from an esteemed poster sharing a call out. Even if many people in the SJ gaming community are pro-Maya, the call out will be enough for many non-gamers in SJ, because call outs are sacred and are suppose to be taken seriously. If you post one, it's assumed you're doing it in good faith and you're not fucking around. Not to mention, the call out is kinda detached from everything going on, it just has a few mentions to Zoe Quinn. Overall I think we have the opportunity to use the bubble to our advantage, and once the post starts organically spreading, that will be the first nail in the coffin.

[QUOTE=warneccruid;45852728]Anyone from Reddit can you upvote this please. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2f2c32/quinnspiracy_theory_white_castles_and_ivory_towers/[/url][/QUOTE] Don't upvote straight for that link, it won't count it as it'll think its spam and you (may) get shadowbanned, go onto /r/videos directly then upvote there

It's actually kind of disgusting how some of these people are such blatant bullies. They're so quick to insult and jeer people who they presume to be beneath them like they're absolutely nothing but the moment somebody with more power steps in and tells them that isn't okay they just stop talking and crawl away like the cowards they actually are. I get the feeling the internet is enabling their behaviour way too easily; you would never see these people actively insult and belittle their critics in real life where they aren't detached from any proper, active debate in person. And if they ever do that, then they're just completely insane.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45853047]What if we are inside a bubble right now :tinfoil:.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1420700"]you'd be right[/URL]

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45853047]What if we are inside a bubble right now :tinfoil:.[/QUOTE] [I]Technically[/I] we are, since Facepunch is a gaming forum :v: We don't have any special ranking algorithms outside of GD though, and that one's the same for every viewer.